i dont think anyone would be able to say for sure.

chances are it would be ok but if i was u i would choose something else other then tren just incase.

masteron and var might be a good substitute.

 

i never heard that tren lowers t3, have you seen anything 'scientific' that backs this? if anything i always thought tren seems to have a speeding up effect on the metabolism.

 

well the thing is that im planning to compete over the next few years. so i cant avoid tren. im just trying to find out what the sides would be, so i can figure out if its worth choosing this path.

no jose i personally dont have any studies but i have red everywhere in the net that tren supress thyroid. thats why a lot of lads take t3 with tren as a supp.

 

i never heard that tren lowers t3, have you seen anything 'scientific' that backs this? if anything i always thought tren seems to have a speeding up effect on the metabolism.

I read something on a steroid information site that reccomended using t3 with tren because of the effects on thyroid

 

well the thing is that im planning to compete over the next few years. so i cant avoid tren. im just trying to find out what the sides would be, so i can figure out if its worth choosing this path.

no jose i personally dont have any studies but i have red everywhere in the net that tren supress thyroid. thats why a lot of lads take t3 with tren as a supp.

well i have never seen that(not saying it's not true) but a lot of things get said by one or two people on the internet and then snowball . if i was you and i was really concerned about it , i would dig deeper and try and see if i could find any science behind it.

Also really don't think tren is a prerequisite for competing, yes it is a great compound but plenty of people don't get on too well with it, and i would bet tons of people competing don't use it for that reason.

 

i never heard that tren lowers t3, have you seen anything 'scientific' that backs this? if anything i always thought tren seems to have a speeding up effect on the metabolism.

it does lower t3 mate.

well the thing is that im planning to compete over the next few years. so i cant avoid tren. im just trying to find out what the sides would be, so i can figure out if its worth choosing this path.

no jose i personally dont have any studies but i have red everywhere in the net that tren supress thyroid. thats why a lot of lads take t3 with tren as a supp.

you dont NEED tren to compete. there are plenty of ppl that compete without tren.

 

well i've seen tren making miracles for people. of course there are other compounds but i believe nothing beats tren, as for steroids..but thats just my opinion

 

it does lower t3 mate.

you dont NEED tren to compete. there are plenty of ppl that compete without tren.

well as i said i'm not going to argue it doesn't(cos i never heard about it either way) but i also wouldn't accept it's s fact without hearing/seeing the science behind it. T3 level is not really something you can 'feel' . so it is something that needs to be supported with something scientific to have any credence.

 

well as i said i'm not going to argue it doesn't(cos i never heard about it either way) but i also wouldn't accept it's s fact without hearing/seeing the science behind it. T3 level is not really something you can 'feel' . so it is something that needs to be supported with something scientific to have any credence.

i didnt say u can "feel" it.

its a fairly well known side of tren. i dnt have time to find studies for you.

dont take my word for it. research it yourself.

 

any1 with experience on this?? a guy with thyroid issues that tried tren??

 

Bund as I'm also interested in this

 

well i've seen tren making miracles for people. of course there are other compounds but i believe nothing beats tren, as for steroids..but thats just my opinion

this makes me lol.

there was a guy yesterday who was dropping a gram of tren and asking why arent i a god yet?

by all means smash as much tren as u like but dont think for a second its going to do miracles- it wont.

there is so much hype around tren, ppl acctually think its some sort of magic bullet.

 

Tren sent me hypo and hyper while using T3 as well. If you suffer with it, don't use tren. I think all 19nors do that as well.

 

Hi, I'm a total newbie and really don't know much about steroid use..... However, I'm quite severely hypothyroid and have been for years.. I've researched it to the extreme and been under endo specialists..

I don't know whether any specific steroid would affect t3 levels, but the vast majority of ft3 and tissue t3 is produced buy the diodinisation of t4. So naturally your thyroid gland only actually produces 20percent or less of the t3 in your body and the rest of the t3 comes from t4. T4 is effectively a storage hormone, it doesn't actually do anything itself, t3 is the biologically active hormone. There're 3 main enzymes responsible for Diodinisation, d1, d2 and d3.. They all have slightly different roles in different tissues but the bottom line is the health of your enzymes is effected by various stressors... So physical and emotional stressors will up or down regulate your diodinase enzymes... So basically things that are toxic to your body can effect how well you covert t4-t3. These are observed phenomenum, depressed people have raised tsh and low range t3, same goes for rats in the lab and same has been shown fro various environmental toxins and dietry toxins... It wouldn't surprise me if there was somthing about the toxicity of tren that affected the coversion of t4-t3.. ??

 

Hi, I'm a total newbie and really don't know much about steroid use..... However, I'm quite severely hypothyroid and have been for years.. I've researched it to the extreme and been under endo specialists..

I don't know whether any specific steroid would affect t3 levels, but the vast majority of ft3 and tissue t3 is produced buy the diodinisation of t4. So naturally your thyroid gland only actually produces 20percent or less of the t3 in your body and the rest of the t3 comes from t4. T4 is effectively a storage hormone, it doesn't actually do anything itself, t3 is the biologically active hormone. There're 3 main enzymes responsible for Diodinisation, d1, d2 and d3.. They all have slightly different roles in different tissues but the bottom line is the health of your enzymes is effected by various stressors... So physical and emotional stressors will up or down regulate your diodinase enzymes... So basically things that are toxic to your body can effect how well you covert t4-t3. These are observed phenomenum, depressed people have raised tsh and low range t3, same goes for rats in the lab and same has been shown fro various environmental toxins and dietry toxins... It wouldn't surprise me if there was somthing about the toxicity of tren that affected the coversion of t4-t3.. ??

thats very interesting...bumping

 

Done a bit of looking around don't think it's very clear cut. Here is a thread with some pretty good debate/info on the subject

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/professional-muscle-forum/90706-trenbolone-lowers-t4-t3-2.html