Hey Guys,

I will be starting a new cycle soon (my 4th cycle) and wanted to get some feedback, I have previously run Test E with Tren E but looking for something different this time.

I am 32, 5'11, 85KG with 12% body fat, looking to gain some clean dry mass with this cycle:

I will be using ROHM labs for this cycle.

NPP:

Mon,Wed,Fri = 350mg a week for 8 weeks.

Test Prop:

Mon,Wed,Fri = 500mg a week for 10 weeks. (500mg a week Is my sweet spot based in previous cycles)

I was thinking of chucking in some Tbol at 70mg ED for 6 weeks, what do you think? not a fan of Dbol or Anadrol

Will also be running Caber and Arimidex at 0.25mg twice a week and may adjust further down the line.

For PCT I have HCG, Nolvadex and Clomid in hand.

What do you guys think?

This looks good for a 4th cycle. However, since Nandrolone PP and Test P will both hold water; so like you mentioned Dbol or Anadrol will not help you achieve your goals because they will increase water retention even more. Tbol is good choice but winstrol will be even better. Winstrol will blow tbol out of the water when it comes to dry/hard look. In summary, you should take winstrol as an oral to achieve the clean dry mass you said in the post. Or you could just do test+npp that is still pretty strong its around 850mg/0.85g per week of gear.

Small question: why are you choosing small esters?

 

This looks good for a 4th cycle. However, since Nandrolone PP and Test P will both hold water; so like you mentioned Dbol or Anadrol will not help you achieve your goals because they will increase water retention even more. Tbol is good choice but winstrol will be even better. Winstrol will blow tbol out of the water when it comes to dry/hard look. In summary, you should take winstrol as an oral to achieve the clean dry mass you said in the post. Or you could just do test+npp that is still pretty strong its around 850mg/0.85g per week of gear.

Small question: why are you choosing small esters?

Thanks for the advice man, what dosage would you recommend running Winstrol at? And for how long ?

I've used long esters in the past and I'm not a fan of running cycles for 14-16 weeks to be honest, also I am going abroad in about 3 months so I only really have enough time for a 8-10 week cycle + PCT before I go.

I haven't used test prop before and was told the pip can be quite bad? Have you experienced this at all?

 

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I always like to be prepared just in case, hopefully I won't be needing it, but it's there if I need it ??

I also have some VAR left from previous cycle, think I can chuck it in this cycle somewhere?

Flip a coin on it.

I personally wouldn't there is no need if you taking an oral tbol. It's your choice.