i love it at high dose , 1500 mg per week i have done with practically zero sides

 

@ausbuilt may be able to offer insight

 

i love it at high dose , 1500 mg per week i have done with practically zero sides

1.5g of primo lol what brand was that was it legit?

 

1.5g of primo lol what brand was that was it legit?

done a few times , back in day with turkish pharma , most recently isis ( dont wanna hear any wedinos reports please as dont believe a thing about any of it )

 

Id be interested to try this if I could source some legit primo but I don't know of anywhere I can get some as of yet.

 

Better compounds at far cheaper prices is my opinion

 

Honestly primo is not magic. I first used it in 1989, prescribed by family Dr back in Oz (I was 19). At the time my cycle was 500mg sustanon 250, and 500mg of primobolan depot. It was a nice cycle, and I put on 8kg of quality muscle, no sides. That was my 2nd cycle; the 3rd one was much the same with added anavar, which made me a touch stronger, but i only went up 3kg in 12 weeks- I was after more gains and went for deca over primo after that (and anapolan over anavar) etc.

These days I would say its a good drug for women, and in fact most women can't tell primo apart from eq, and I don't think I can either.

I've run Eq at 2g+ in the past, and been happy with the results; this year going into comp I will be using primo instead off tren with my test, just for the hell of it (and I don't think tren is anything worthwhile when used with letrozole pre-comp).

I basically rate primo and eq the same in terms of effects in every way. Just so happens I could get my hands on some actual primo (though its UGL, the raws tested as primo) so I thought i would run it over eq at 1g, and see if I can notice any difference (doubt I will, but in the name of science... LOL)

 

Honestly primo is not magic. I first used it in 1989, prescribed by family Dr back in Oz (I was 19). At the time my cycle was 500mg sustanon 250, and 500mg of primobolan depot. It was a nice cycle, and I put on 8kg of quality muscle, no sides. That was my 2nd cycle; the 3rd one was much the same with added anavar, which made me a touch stronger, but i only went up 3kg in 12 weeks- I was after more gains and went for deca over primo after that (and anapolan over anavar) etc.

These days I would say its a good drug for women, and in fact most women can't tell primo apart from eq, and I don't think I can either.

I've run Eq at 2g+ in the past, and been happy with the results; this year going into comp I will be using primo instead off tren with my test, just for the hell of it (and I don't think tren is anything worthwhile when used with letrozole pre-comp).

I basically rate primo and eq the same in terms of effects in every way. Just so happens I could get my hands on some actual primo (though its UGL, the raws tested as primo) so I thought i would run it over eq at 1g, and see if I can notice any difference (doubt I will, but in the name of science... LOL)

Thanks for that ! Equipoise was the other compound I was interested in so that's useful .

I'm not obsessed with mass , well only on arms so that's ok , weight lose aiding and quality of gain is my focus at the moment , if I do run one or the other it will be with test , peps and anavar as I'm happy with them and have them already .

Thanks for the input , am I right in thinking there's little to no psychological sides then ??

All the best , and thanks again !

 

Better compounds at far cheaper prices is my opinion

Give us a clue mate

 

Thanks for that ! Equipoise was the other compound I was interested in so that's useful .

I'm not obsessed with mass , well only on arms so that's ok , weight lose aiding and quality of gain is my focus at the moment , if I do run one or the other it will be with test , peps and anavar as I'm happy with them and have them already .

Thanks for the input , am I right in thinking there's little to no psychological sides then ??

All the best , and thanks again !

all the studies that show anavar or others aid fat loss where done on geriatric men (low test):

http://www.ama-marketing.at/home/user/6/Fleisch/Wissenschaftliches/06_10_2010/102010_4_The_Decline_of_Androgen_Levels_in_Elderly_Men_and_Its.pdf

you'll see on page 853 that Liu in 2002 got LBM gain in men using HCG.... Schroeder in 03 got the same with Oxymetholone (anadrol-50/anapolan-50) and of course in 04 with Oxandralone (anavar).

In men 18-35, test alone did a good job of building muscle and reducing fat, with no exercise (one of the few studies in healthy males, that went up to 600mg/week):

http://ajpendo.physiology.org/content/281/6/E1172.long

So the point is use which ever anabolics you feel comfortable with, fat loss comes from diet... gains come from training (but you know this!)

I've never heard of anyone having mood issues with Eq.

Give us a clue mate

I'm guessing he means eq as an example, way cheaper than primo.... hard to tell them apart

 

all the studies that show anavar or others aid fat loss where done on geriatric men (low test):

http://www.ama-marketing.at/home/user/6/Fleisch/Wissenschaftliches/06_10_2010/102010_4_The_Decline_of_Androgen_Levels_in_Elderly_Men_and_Its.pdf

you'll see on page 853 that Liu in 2002 got LBM gain in men using HCG.... Schroeder in 03 got the same with Oxymetholone (anadrol-50/anapolan-50) and of course in 04 with Oxandralone (anavar).

In men 18-35, test alone did a good job of building muscle and reducing fat, with no exercise (one of the few studies in healthy males, that went up to 600mg/week):

http://ajpendo.physiology.org/content/281/6/E1172.long

So the point is use which ever anabolics you feel comfortable with, fat loss comes from diet... gains come from training (but you know this!)

I've never heard of anyone having mood issues with Eq.

I'm guessing he means eq as an example, way cheaper than primo.... hard to tell them apart

Thanks again

Yeah I appreciate it's training, diet ,rest as much as the sh!t I jab ha ha , I'm not anywhere near holding the mass to justify calling it a cut , but more lean out as I continue to develop, sadly the studies are on younger men than me so I'm gonna hide behind that and shoot more gear !

Eq appealed recently as I changed my diet to much more food and in struggling to eat it all or even face it some days .

 

I ran Bayer primo last year at 800mg a week with low dose test never gained a great deal more than a test only cycle but kept just about all gains and looked very vascular no sides whatsoever

But as stated even though I got mine cheap from turkey it still wasn't worth the price and its alot of oil to jab a week so I'd go with eq

 

I'm 3.5 weeks into a Primo cycle at the mo, doing 400mg with 300 Test. I will be bumping the Primo up to 600mg in a few weeks.

Primo is the safest steroid you can take and a slow steady gainer, what you get you keep. The best cycles are 16 to 20 weeks. People often cut them too short and miss the best bit.

 

Thanks again

Yeah I appreciate it's training, diet ,rest as much as the sh!t I jab ha ha , I'm not anywhere near holding the mass to justify calling it a cut , but more lean out as I continue to develop, sadly the studies are on younger men than me so I'm gonna hide behind that and shoot more gear !

Eq appealed recently as I changed my diet to much more food and in struggling to eat it all or even face it some days .

I haven't been on the forum for nearly a year i think; but prior to that I was a bit (in)famous for massive cycles... I'm 44 in a couple of months... conclusion I came to was my training and diet didn't require the amounts i was taking.... fixing up training and diet with a good coach and consulting (paid) with some well known pros, led me to make better gains on some pretty low doses... I will ramp up my doses again, for short periods, when my training is intense enough.

I ran Bayer primo last year at 800mg a week with low dose test never gained a great deal more than a test only cycle but kept just about all gains and looked very vascular no sides whatsoever

But as stated even though I got mine cheap from turkey it still wasn't worth the price and its alot of oil to jab a week so I'd go with eq

I agree; don't think anything provides more gains than test alone, but some milder anabolics like eq or primo do make for a better "look" i've found; yep its a lot of oil...

I'm 3.5 weeks into a Primo cycle at the mo, doing 400mg with 300 Test. I will be bumping the Primo up to 600mg in a few weeks.

Primo is the safest steroid you can take and a slow steady gainer, what you get you keep. The best cycles are 16 to 20 weeks. People often cut them too short and miss the best bit.

I like primo, eq and deca as drugs a lot; the fact is all injectables are "safe" in that they do not stress the liver. I don't think primo is any "safer" than the other oil based injectables in terms of liver/kidney/cardiac health, but certainly has less sides to manage than any other injectable (i.e tren has sweats/insomnica, deca has deca dick & water retention, eq has appetite increase for some). None of them have sides that are particularly dangerous to your health, but from a comfort perspective, primo seems like a nice choice. I'd run it more if it wasn't dosed at 100mg/mL. In fact am only running it now as i got some at 150mg/ml in 50% EO, which apparently is OK PIP wise.... will find out next week when i start it I guess...

 

I haven't been on the forum for nearly a year i think; but prior to that I was a bit (in)famous for massive cycles... I'm 44 in a couple of months... conclusion I came to was my training and diet didn't require the amounts i was taking.... fixing up training and diet with a good coach and consulting (paid) with some well known pros, led me to make better gains on some pretty low doses... I will ramp up my doses again, for short periods, when my training is intense enough.

I agree; don't think anything provides more gains than test alone, but some milder anabolics like eq or primo do make for a better "look" i've found; yep its a lot of oil...

I like primo, eq and deca as drugs a lot; the fact is all injectables are "safe" in that they do not stress the liver. I don't think primo is any "safer" than the other oil based injectables in terms of liver/kidney/cardiac health, but certainly has less sides to manage than any other injectable (i.e tren has sweats/insomnica, deca has deca dick & water retention, eq has appetite increase for some). None of them have sides that are particularly dangerous to your health, but from a comfort perspective, primo seems like a nice choice. I'd run it more if it wasn't dosed at 100mg/mL. In fact am only running it now as i got some at 150mg/ml in 50% EO, which apparently is OK PIP wise.... will find out next week when i start it I guess...

Hi buddy , just wondered if you have ever used primo acetate orals , I got 50 x 25mg caps given to me by a friend and was considering throwing them in @ 125mg ed for the last 10 days of my prep just for the hell of it and as they were free , do you think I would notice any extra hardness in such a small space of time ?

Thanks for your input/thoughts in advance mate

 

Can some one recommend me a ug lab for primo ?

 

Hi buddy , just wondered if you have ever used primo acetate orals , I got 50 x 25mg caps given to me by a friend and was considering throwing them in @ 125mg ed for the last 10 days of my prep just for the hell of it and as they were free , do you think I would notice any extra hardness in such a small space of time ?

Thanks for your input/thoughts in advance mate

haven't used acetate tabs since like 1993! on the plus side, they are one of the few orals that aren't c-17 alpha alkylated, so they don't raise liver enzymes, at just about any dose- the downside is taking 125mg prob will give you the activity of about 40mg.

I don't think it would make much difference hardness wise if you're taking test or masteron already, but hey it won't hurt

 

haven't used acetate tabs since like 1993! on the plus side, they are one of the few orals that aren't c-17 alpha alkylated, so they don't raise liver enzymes, at just about any dose- the downside is taking 125mg prob will give you the activity of about 40mg.

I don't think it would make much difference hardness wise if you're taking test or masteron already, but hey it won't hurt

Thanks for your input there mate

 

Can some one recommend me a ug lab for primo ?

i've got an early batch of Sphinx- testing some 150mg/ml made with 50% EO; don't start 'til next week, hopefully PIP won't be bad. I've also heard d-hacks is going to introduce primo (recently tested prop for both sphinx and d-hacks and they've both been excellent). I last used some of the turkish Bayer ampoules and they where good too.

 

Hoping to get some turkish schering primo when after mate comes back from holiday if all goes well, i would consider using d hacks but thats about it as UGL goes.

 

We never used the doses touted around here when there was plenty of pharma around and 5-600mg i used but over a longer cycles 12-16 weeks.

Stacked with other gear it was hard to tell what was working.

 

The Turkish primo is spot on mate make sure he shops about as the price varied alot when I got mine

 

It's very hard to find. A lot of it is masteron, in my opinion.

Unless you are really rich, don't risk it. I have gotten fake primo before.

 

The Turkish primo is spot on mate make sure he shops about as the price varied alot when I got mine

I've heard a lot is fake there too?

 

there is alot of fake pharma primo in uk, IMO sometimes youre better off going with a well known UGL for the compounds such as primo.

I ran Schering with a test several years ago for something like 20 weeks, back then it was quite expensive and now its about £1-2 per vial dearer. the gains in size where minimal compared with just using test alone but i do remember i upped the dose to 700mg/week (1ml a day) after about 8 weeks in and i felt and looked harder, bit dryer maybe and i started to lean out towards the end but this may have been a result of my calories at the time.

Since then Ive tried the same pharma stuff at low and higher doses but feel that it hasnt given me the same effects as before, weather this is cos its fake or my diet and routine has changed im more likely to say the recent stuff isnt the real deal.

I am currently using Delta Primo at 400mg/week with mast, tren and test and am quite vascular and lean.

If i go again i will try source some D-Hacks as the orals have so far been spot on but not tried any oils.

I may take a trip to turkey tho...... Is that where Desma Winstrol comes from or is that spanish???