I ran t3 with my last tren cycle at 50mcg and feel my results were significantly better in terms of fat loss and muscle retention.

 

I ran t3 with my last tren cycle at 50mcg and feel my results were significantly better in terms of fat loss and muscle retention.

It stopped my bloating last time anyway , Il prob go with 25mcg straight off this time starting tomorrow, i use a 200mcg of t4 ed anyway.

 

Perminatly use the t4 or just on cycle?

 

Interesting this one, i have heard a few folk mention using t3 on a tren cycle. I am personally very wary of thyroid drugs as there is a history of thyroid problems in our family (yes, i know aas have an effect on the thyroid too).

Got to be honest i know nothing about t3 really whats the protocol?

 

Just added 50mcg t3 to my diet and been using tren for 10 weeks now. Look foward to the faster fatloss with it and if my thyroid was slowed down, it certainly will be running fast now!

 

Trenbolone has a negative effect on natural levels of t3 hormone, so its always good to run around 25/50mcg during a cycle of trenbolone, and this increases the nutrient partitioning effect that tren has, by adding in the t3 as not only does the tren then increase the rate of which nutrients are absorbed but also the rate at which their broken down...

T3 and Tren should always be ran together

I run 25mcg of t3 every cycle I do along with Proviron at 25mcg.

 

Started my parabolan today and just looking over the alpha pharma leaflet and i noticed the paragraph stating to use t3 at 25mcg throughout a trenbolone treatment ( something that iv read many times before on the net)

The last few tren cycles i have noticed a drop in metabolism at week 4-5 mainly bloating as if what i was eating is now to much for my body to deal with so added t3 , my personally opinion is that its needed for me but maybe not everyone.

Drop in metabolism on Tren?

Tren increases your ability to absorb nutrients from food. It's not a decrease in metabolism, just increased nutrient efficiency.

 

Perminatly use the t4 or just on cycle?

Permanently for now , last two bloods t4 came in below normal could be from GH so I started 200 mcg and now it's mid range

 

Drop in metabolism on Tren?

Tren increases your ability to absorb nutrients from food. It's not a decrease in metabolism, just increased nutrient efficiency.

What's the use of t3 for with tren then?

 

What's the use of t3 for with tren then?

The same as if you're not on Tren. A boost in metabolism.

 

I was lead to believe that tren interferes with the conversion of t4-t3...

 

The same as if you're not on Tren. A boost in metabolism.

It states on the leaflet a decrease in t3 production which would point to a drop in metabolism which is what I notice I certainly don't get an increase, as I count my calories.

 

I always use 25MCG T3 before bed, empty stomach.

Works very well with low-medium dose of tren. Prevents gyno and slow down of metabolism. I think it's all you need.

50MCG will usually makes me flat.

 

Started 50mcg d hacks today was going to do 25 mcg but the splitting of the tab didn't go well and ended up doing it all

Was sweating more than normal doing fasted cardio , and had trouble sleeping last night which seems a bit early to me

 

Is it best to dose T3 all in one go or split it AM/PM?

 

Started 50mcg d hacks today was going to do 25 mcg but the splitting of the tab didn't go well and ended up doing it all

Was sweating more than normal doing fasted cardio , and had trouble sleeping last night which seems a bit early to me

if the tren drops the production like you state, going from below normal to above average might make it have them effects a lot quicker then just going from average to above. bit like drinking on an empty stomach

 

I always use 25MCG T3 before bed, empty stomach.

Works very well with low-medium dose of tren. Prevents gyno and slow down of metabolism. I think it's all you need.

50MCG will usually makes me flat.

I normally take mine in the morning at least 30 mins before food or before fasted training , do you mean prolactin gyno ?

 

Trenbolone has a negative effect on natural levels of t3 hormone

Got any studies to back up your claim? Strong bro science imho. Any effect tren has on natural T3 production is negligable and the human body produces approx 25mcg of T3 per day anyway.

Remember alpha "pharma" is not actually real Pharma grade in the sense of organon ect. and therefore can put any BS they want on their labels in order to increase sales.

 

I normally take mine in the morning at least 30 mins before food or before fasted training , do you mean prolactin gyno ?

Yes prolactin gyno Lee.

Also, i take at night because i feel it prevents fat gain during night and speeds up metabolismo even more. In the morning i do cardio so it speeds up naturally.

 

Yes prolactin gyno Lee.

Also, i take at night because i feel it prevents fat gain during night and speeds up metabolismo even more. In the morning i do cardio so it speeds up naturally.

LOL. Fat gain during the night?

Also, T3 has a half life of 1 day so it won't make much of a difference. Calories in vs calories out, meal timing mostly irrelevant. Just comes down to consistency.

 

I feel the difference, and i like the results. Yes, i am sure t3 at night makes sucks any carbs down that i might overeated.

Also i think it makes tren cycles work way better.

you should definitely try.

 

First i've ever heard of T3 being needed while using tren.

Tren can be run on it's own, and tren helps increase liposis (However it's spelt) which is the increase in which fat is burned.

I'd only throw in T3 or such like if I was using Tren on a cut.

I am bulking on Tren and it just makes it a lot more of a lean bulk imo.

 

Got any studies to back up your claim? Strong bro science imho. Any effect tren has on natural T3 production is negligable and the human body produces approx 25mcg of T3 per day anyway.

Remember alpha "pharma" is not actually real Pharma grade in the sense of organon ect. and therefore can put any BS they want on their labels in order to increase sales.

trenbolone lowers the thyroid function somehow, its practically fact, I've had bloods and my t3 levels have dropped out of normal range and borderline hypothyroidism... as did 2 of my pals who also had blood, no bro science here, just someone who's a little more educated on this use of this drug then you are... so yeh man, BRO SCIENCE...

And I forgot to mention, tren hasn't got any studies, all the information we find out about tren has to be taught through use until, human studies are taken. only studies they have is on cows.

Twice I've taken tren each time my thyroid dropped to borderline or under normal range, and like I said above 2 of my pals experienced the very same thing and posted up on this forum mentioning about it

 

Also, a lot of sources say t3 at 25mcg it's usefull in all cycles for gaining mass and do not gain fat during the proccess.

 

Also, a lot of sources say t3 at 25mcg it's usefull in all cycles for gaining mass and do not gain fat during the proccess.

Don't mean to sound rude, but you have a lot to learn mate. There is no magic pill or drug that will prevent fat gain. It's all maths, calories in vs calories out.

i.e. If your maintenance is 3000 calories and you're intaking 5000 calories with some T3, you will gain fat regardless of the drug you're on.