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Times poll shows YES campaign are now leading

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#1 ·
Big vote is getting closer for the people living in Scotland.

Yes have been gathering momentum recently and the next two weeks are going to be interesting and potentially life changing depending on the result.

I am am not one for politics but this has got my attention.
 
#128 ·
lufc90 said:
Why don't you just prove it to silence everyone

If someone was to question the comments i gloat about on every thread i would be quick to prove them wrong

But mine are believable i have an average job with 70k life savings and i'm really interested in a promotion

Any jobs going mate???

I feel i could fit the job description for sitting on my **** on the laptop for 3 hours per day in exchange for 10k per month
Why would I want to silence everyone? It's amusing watching every one get so passionate about me, makes me feel special :)
 
#129 ·
smity220385 said:
I think the biggest risk to Scotland is the fact if they vote yes, many big firms will leave Scotland and go south. Scotland will also have to wait at least5 years to join the euro and then adopt the euro. Also to join NATO their have to spend 2%gdp on defense. They will lose their nuclear defense as they want rid and it's a well known fact Russia often enters uk airspace over Scotland on average twice awesk.. Defend against them on your own?

It's also a well know fact that although most hate it, a massive portion of uk money is created in the city of London and without it the rest of the uk would be broke! I couldn't tell u the average wage in Scotland but I do know that the further north u go the lower the wages are and if u earn less than I believe ÂŁ33,000 it's said u cost the system more than u put in!

Personally I really can't see any good coming from a yes vote and I think Alex salmond would be in the **** if he got it! Bare in mind originally he was after more devolution not independence, that card was force by that idiot Cameron
First if all I am a no voter and will be come the vote night. However your post is way of mate. Scotland does not take from UK they are contributors. Unlike nearly every other part of the UK. The only other contributor is London. Scotland's oil wealth is worth about 9-10 billion a year mate and London's finance contributes about 12 billion. So the real truth is the UK needs both London and scotland.

No one argues that Scotland financially contributes on average 800 per person more than the rest of UK. Again with the Euro question you say 5 years I disagree completely. Do you really think Europe would not fast track Scotland's membership? We have Europe's largest oil fields and gas reserves. I think plenty euro countries would want us in the club considering how much Putin has Europe over a barrel and europe knows it.

Defend against Russia? Don't be silly, we have no gripe with Russia and neither do they with us. Intact I could actually see Putin trying to build trade ties with scotland post independence...now theres a thought.

Again I will say I an voting no, not because of braveheart or any of that bull but because I am British and england does not own the right to be British. It is collectively ALL of ours. At least that's what my grandparents who fought and died in world wars thought...but are you telling me different?

So please leave the London propaganda and scaremongering out. The real truth is England stands to lose much more than scotland if a yes vote wins. Don't believe me? Then why is not a single party in Westminster supporting it? The real fear is in Westminster and the people of scotland can see it a mile off.
 
#130 ·
The most balanced view I have heard. I am voting Yes and both my grandfather's fought for the uk one was a regular and they are both voting Yes. Once you have done your stint for queen and country you are forgotten.
 
#131 ·
Delhi said:
First if all I am a no voter and will be come the vote night. However your post is way of mate. Scotland does not take from UK they are contributors. Unlike nearly every other part of the UK. The only other contributor is London. Scotland's oil wealth is worth about 9-10 billion a year mate and London's finance contributes about 12 billion. So the real truth is the UK needs both London and scotland.

No one argues that Scotland financially contributes on average 800 per person more than the rest of UK. Again with the Euro question you say 5 years I disagree completely. Do you really think Europe would not fast track Scotland's membership? We have Europe's largest oil fields and gas reserves. I think plenty euro countries would want us in the club considering how much Putin has Europe over a barrel and europe knows it.

Defend against Russia? Don't be silly, we have no gripe with Russia and neither do they with us. Intact I could actually see Putin trying to build trade ties with scotland post independence...now theres a thought.

Again I will say I an voting no, not because of braveheart or any of that bull but because I am British and england does not own the right to be British. It is collectively ALL of ours. At least that's what my grandparents who fought and died in world wars thought...but are you telling me different?

So please leave the London propaganda and scaremongering out. The real truth is England stands to lose much more than scotland if a yes vote wins. Don't believe me? Then why is not a single party in Westminster supporting it? The real fear is in Westminster and the people of scotland can see it a mile off.
U say this but if it was a case of the rest of the UK, not just England, really had that much to lose then they would of given the vote in the first place? I'm sure it has all been number crunched and although tbh although I couldn't give a rats either way, I think the union does work, even with the scots being anti England! As for oil... I think it's only a matter of time before it becomes less of a commodity needed. The short term yes oil is of a benefit but long term what is the plan?
 
#132 ·
smity220385 said:
U say this but if it was a case of the rest of the UK, not just England, really had that much to lose then they would of given the vote in the first place? I'm sure it has all been number crunched and although tbh although I couldn't give a rats either way, I think the union does work, even with the scots being anti England! As for oil... I think it's only a matter of time before it becomes less of a commodity needed. The short term yes oil is of a benefit but long term what is the plan?
The plan is to ditch trident so we can go drilling for oil in the west coast.
 
#133 ·
I'm largely on the fence but leaning towards yes, from what I've saw a lot of the older generation are voting no, as mentioned fear for pension schemes and current business owners who are afraid of what will happen, whereas my main concern is for the health of those around me and for future generations (although I'm only 21..). The thought of a privatised NHS scares the sh!t out of me, as well as the possibility of leaving the EU in a few years time if we stay within Westminster. Also this video

http://whatreallyhappened.com/de/content/ex-uk-ambassador-uzbekistan-craig-murray-explains-why-he-will-vote-yes-scotlands-independenc
 
#134 ·
Alex6534 said:
I'm largely on the fence but leaning towards yes, from what I've saw a lot of the older generation are voting no, as mentioned fear for pension schemes and current business owners who are afraid of what will happen, whereas my main concern is for the health of those around me and for future generations (although I'm only 21..). The thought of a privatised NHS scares the sh!t out of me, as well as the possibility of leaving the EU in a few years time if we stay within Westminster. Also this video

http://whatreallyhappened.com/de/content/ex-uk-ambassador-uzbekistan-craig-murray-explains-why-he-will-vote-yes-scotlands-independenc
Watch this short clip from Jeanne Freeman on Scotland's NHS. She puts it into perspective what will happen to Scotland's NHS

 
#135 ·
I think it will go through by the tiniest of margins like 1-2%

It will take 18-24 months to take full effect

Being Scottish my only concern is what currency will we use ?

I don't agree we keep the pound , how is that being Independent?

You only get one chance so why the fuk not ? Lol
 
#137 ·
Conscript said:
I think we should stick togther, as an island britain, we are all british after all.

Saying that if I had a vote to leave the jurisdiction of westminister, I ****in would vote yes!
A pal of mine from London was here yesterday , he said already feels like a separate country when you visit here anyway , accents, Scottish bank notes , REAL Irn Bru lol
 
#143 ·
smity220385 said:
U say this but if it was a case of the rest of the UK, not just England, really had that much to lose then they would of given the vote in the first place? I'm sure it has all been number crunched and although tbh although I couldn't give a rats either way, I think the union does work, even with the scots being anti England! As for oil... I think it's only a matter of time before it becomes less of a commodity needed. The short term yes oil is of a benefit but long term what is the plan?
Please mate first of all read my post... I am voting NO so I like you believe the union works and I want it to remain. That's what NO vote means :cool:

Again though this is not about being anti English, I have heard very little anti English comments tbh. People are sick of WESTMINSTER and how they are spending everyone's money on primarily London and the Deep South. Take a look at high speed rail. It's a great example... From London to (now) Manchester, no link to Scotland despite the scots paying large sums for it (and more than the average uk citizen).

I am sure if cities like Newcastle, Manchester, Liverpool etc could join us they would. They have the same issues with Westminster....

As for them 'letting us have the vote' lol we got the vote because it was the political will of the Scottish people. Westminster had little to no choice but give us the vote. Scotland through democratic process asked for the vote (by voting SNP) as main party. It wasn't "up to them to give us the vote".

And one last point for anyone who is interested. Being British and part of the UK is not the decision of England OR Westminster. It is owned by us ALL within the union.

TBH that is one thing that p1sses me off about England... It's not yours to give or take. All of the nations own it, not you. It's like saying France owns Europe.

There is a pub up here that this week has put up the flags of Scotland, Wales, NI and ENGLAND yes right here in the Scottish heart lands there is a St. George flag. Why because the owner wants to show his support for the United Kingdom which we are all a part of and ALL own.