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Dropping Mast Mid-Cycle for Hair Loss? Stick with Test Only or Cruise?

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244 views 16 replies 7 participants last post by  hadihearthstone  
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#1 ·
Alright lads, looking for a bit of guidance.

I’m mid-way through a 16-week blast, been running:
• 375mg Test Cyp / 300mg Mast E per week (split into 3 pins, with 0.25–0.5mg Adex each jab)
• Also playing around with Retatrutide for appetite control, and added in a bit of GH recently.
• Had a short run with Tren Ace in week 6/7 but binned it pretty quick — sides were brutal, no sleep and crazy anxiety.

Overall the blast has felt decent. Mood, training, recovery and body comp all on point. E2 has been a balancing act but mostly under control with the AI. Libido has been up and down but manageable.

Problem is: My hair has started noticeably thinning.
I’ve always known Mast is harsher on the hairline, and now I’m seeing it first-hand. I’m not looking to fry my hair just for the sake of finishing out this run.

So I’m weighing up options and wanted to hear from you lot who’ve been here before:
1. If I drop Mast now and just up the Test to replace it (say ~600–675mg total Test/week) do you think that would halt the shedding, or is the damage already done?
2. Would it be smarter to just pull back to a Test-only blast around 400–500mg/week instead of swapping mg for mg?
3. Or given where I’m at, would you say best bet is to go down to cruise (TRT-ish 120–200mg) and save myself?
4. Final option — come off completely and PCT.

Anyone got anecdotal experience with dropping Mast mid-cycle because of hair loss? Did it slow or stop the thinning, or was it game over once it kicked in?

Appreciate any input.
 
#5 ·
I'd check your ai use, your only on 375 test with 300mg of mast which in some can prevent aromatisation and your taking 0.25-0.5mg adex 3x per week! I know we're all different but that would nail my e2 and make me feel shite with a shitty libido! Whats your aim of this cycle!? Your taking reta to curb appetite, yet you need to be eating a decent amount to actually grow some muscle! Ps don't look at mast as something that adds muscle, its best use is for hardening and libido imo, so if you dropped the mast and doubled your test you'd be doing far better than the test and mast when it comes to growing! Ps high test = high DHT so similar outcome to taking mast, if your worried about your hair then keep your test low and try a none DHT like nadrolone.
 
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#6 ·
I get your point, but my labs show a different picture. I’ve done bloodwork twice this cycle and my oestradiol has been way above the male reference range of 41–159 pmol/L — I came back at 334 pmol/L in May [on 150mg/week test cruise] and 389 pmol/L in August on my current blast. So it’s not that I’m nuking my E2, it’s that my aromatisation is genuinely high and I need the AI to keep it from running away further. Without it I get hit with bad symptoms (sleep, mood, gyno flare-ups). Mast clearly isn’t keeping aromatisation in check for me, so the AI isn’t optional, it’s just what keeps things manageable.
 
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