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10 minutes ago, Denied said:

There not going to recall the senate so guessing not a lot. Apart from setting the record for only president to be impeached twice.

Yeh basically means f**k all. I suspect when he’s no longer president he’ll set about suing people for defamation. Be fun to watch them all change there tune. 
 

won’t be long before kamilla invokes the 25th on Biden for his dementia and becomes the first female president. Sadly not earned through merit 

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36 minutes ago, Fors331 said:

Who would have thought. someone running the country is now causing people to die from riots, and to be honest i think hes really enjoying it, always knew he was a wrongin 

Trump wasn’t responsible for people being dicks tho. He said protest didn’t say wreck the place. 
 

 

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2 hours ago, Kazza61 said:

I bet neither him nor Biden are around for the next election.

That old helmet Helmet Biden won’t make it til Easter.........I hope 

Problem is Kamala Harris with be waiting to jump in his shoes.... American society will become even more divided and a war with the CCP and the US will kick off within her first term..... ie WW3

Not wanting to sound too negative..... still could be fun though,  having to learn Cantonese and eat tempura bat for breakfast everyday :thumb

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2 hours ago, Fors331 said:

Who would have thought. someone running the country is now causing people to die from riots, and to be honest i think hes really enjoying it, always knew he was a wrongin 

You got that 100% wrong fella. Just as your country the deep state are nasty people with actors to fill the bill on anything they need done. Trump supporters got way more ethics than that. 

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2 hours ago, todai said:

Trump wasn’t responsible for people being dicks tho. He said protest didn’t say wreck the place. 

“If you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore”

"You will have an illegitimate president. That is what you will have, and we can't let that happen."

“You don't concede when there's theft involved. Our country has had enough. We will not take it anymore."

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I mean... I can see why people think those words from the leader of a country in turmoil are inciting violence. All of this could have been avoided if he’d conceded ages ago and accepted the result, instead of hanging on to fraudulent claims he hasn’t been able to back up. Even his own people want him out and are ashamed of him. More impeachment’s then election wins, amazing stuff :thumb

 

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6 hours ago, TERBO said:

I heard they are buying him peaches... shite leaving present imo.

We agree on something Kazza. 

Paedo Biden the Senile old fool can barely even string a sentence together, unless Trump has a Trump Card he's going to play in the next few days then It will be Harris running the White House and that should terrify everyone has she is Left-wing feminist extremist and worse. 

Still they are all Zionist Puppets, I actually argue with the Qanon community about Trump as they think hes a good guy, I pointed out the fact he said he was going to Arrest Hillary Clinton and never did so, even hinting at her Child Trafficking Crimes in Haiti. 

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6 hours ago, Pez189 said:

“If you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore”

"You will have an illegitimate president. That is what you will have, and we can't let that happen."

“You don't concede when there's theft involved. Our country has had enough. We will not take it anymore."

——-

I mean... I can see why people think those words from the leader of a country in turmoil are inciting violence. All of this could have been avoided if he’d conceded ages ago and accepted the result, instead of hanging on to fraudulent claims he hasn’t been able to back up. Even his own people want him out and are ashamed of him. More impeachment’s then election wins, amazing stuff :thumb

 

Taking some statements out of the context of the speech doesn’t work with me mate. 
 

yes he should’ve accepted. But he believed he’s being cheated. What would you do? Would you step back and concede when you think you’re being done out of your presidency ? 
be good when someone goes through all those who supported the earlier riots in the year and makes a clip to demonstrate how they’re voting to impeach trump despite supporting protests earlier. He should also be allowed to, a fair trial, due process etc. This impeachment was just so people could say he’s had it twice. 
 

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2 hours ago, wylde99 said:

We agree on something Kazza. 

Paedo Biden the Senile old fool can barely even string a sentence together, unless Trump has a Trump Card he's going to play in the next few days then It will be Harris running the White House and that should terrify everyone has she is Left-wing feminist extremist and worse. 


 

I’ll be coming back to this in 7 days and expect evidence.

I do however after his speech about impeachment and warning joe Biden think something is coming but I think that’s just him getting impeached for dementia. But this won’t be in a few days like you said 

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6 hours ago, Pez189 said:

“If you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore”

"You will have an illegitimate president. That is what you will have, and we can't let that happen."

“You don't concede when there's theft involved. Our country has had enough. We will not take it anymore."

——-

I mean... I can see why people think those words from the leader of a country in turmoil are inciting violence. All of this could have been avoided if he’d conceded ages ago and accepted the result, instead of hanging on to fraudulent claims he hasn’t been able to back up. Even his own people want him out and are ashamed of him. More impeachment’s then election wins, amazing stuff :thumb

 

With respect, brother, selectively editing what he said is a pretty sh1tty thing to do and something that the MSM has been guilty of for his entire presidency. 

I don't particularly like the bloke so I've got no axe to grind either way, but fair's fair.

Yes, the specific quotes you've selected could possibly be interpreted at incitement to violence when taken on their own, but when put into their proper context in a speech where he encouraged his supporters to do nothing more than 'march down to the Capitol and peacefully and patriotically make their voices heard', they suddenly seem quite reasonable and innocuous. 

Let's be real...the a55holes who stormed the Capitol may have felt upset and betrayed at what they perceived to be a rigged election, and Trump is definitely guilty of propagating this feeling, but actually inciting violence??? No reasonable person having heard his speech in full could conclude that.

 

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10 hours ago, todai said:

Yeh basically means f**k all. I suspect when he’s no longer president he’ll set about suing people for defamation. Be fun to watch them all change there tune. 
 

won’t be long before kamilla invokes the 25th on Biden for his dementia and becomes the first female president. Sadly not earned through merit 

100% on all that.

I honestly hope Trump runs again in 2024 to bite the Rats in the ass, as theyve done nothing for the American people in 4 years of all this BS.

Imagine how good American could been if the Rats spent as much effort on their States working with a President that brought jobs back to the US, lowered taxes for working class, improved trade tariffs for the better, America would be booming! But, Trump isnt part of the political elite (swamp), hes an outsider and it scares congress. A person who doesnt take no for an answer, doesnt take a wage, and helps the working people of the country. They dont like that.

I dont understand why people are against Trump, from what i saw he had the lowest unemployment rate (pre-covid),  stock markets at its highest, better trade, didnt start any wars but reduced military numbers abroad, lowered taxes for the working class, backed law enforcement, continued the work of past Presidents (Obama) strengthening the boarders, worked on reducing prescription costs, the list goes on.

So with all the above, can some liberal please tell me what he did so wrong? And why do you think a man with dementia who has done nothing in 47 years of politics is going to do better??

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7 hours ago, EpicSquats said:

There's a new porno coming out in summer starring Donald Trump . It's called "Pumped by Trump".

I heard it was going to be called Orange Is The New Black, as apparently he's got a gigantic swinger.

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31 minutes ago, Clubber Lang said:

100% on all that.

I honestly hope Trump runs again in 2024 to bite the Rats in the ass, as theyve done nothing for the American people in 4 years of all this BS.

Imagine how good American could been if the Rats spent as much effort on their States working with a President that brought jobs back to the US, lowered taxes for working class, improved trade tariffs for the better, America would be booming! But, Trump isnt part of the political elite (swamp), hes an outsider and it scares congress. A person who doesnt take no for an answer, doesnt take a wage, and helps the working people of the country. They dont like that.

I dont understand why people are against Trump, from what i saw he had the lowest unemployment rate (pre-covid),  stock markets at its highest, better trade, didnt start any wars but reduced military numbers abroad, lowered taxes for the working class, backed law enforcement, continued the work of past Presidents (Obama) strengthening the boarders, worked on reducing prescription costs, the list goes on.

So with all the above, can some liberal please tell me what he did so wrong? And why do you think a man with dementia who has done nothing in 47 years of politics is going to do better??

Also stood up to China and Iran 

Because the average fuckwit voter can't separate the man from his policies . It was like Nixon , he achieved a LOT as president but people just remember watergate   . 

Obama great orator but didn't do a lot as president . 

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as with all politics, they're all lying cheating, self-centered bastards. none of them are "good", its just about trying to pick the lesser of two evils.

trump is a moron. the left ain't too much better.

i always voted moderate (independent) when i lived Stateside

believe it or not, there are actually more than 2 parties in the U.S.

its just that the other parties hardly get any press

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Agree with his policies or not, he's certainly broken the mould of politicians that we've seen over the years.

His right wing agenda went against the narrative being pushed by the media, so of course they're going to label him as the bad guy no mater what he does, personally i think he's made some great decisions and arrsed up some others. Just like any politician really. 

What this election has shown however is just how divided the US is as a country, almost as if it's on the brink of widespread civil unrest, i bet the worst is yet to come. 

 

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1 hour ago, spod said:

With respect, brother, selectively editing what he said is a pretty sh1tty thing to do and something that the MSM has been guilty of for his entire presidency. 

I don't particularly like the bloke so I've got no axe to grind either way, but fair's fair.

Yes, the specific quotes you've selected could possibly be interpreted at incitement to violence when taken on their own, but when put into their proper context in a speech where he encouraged his supporters to do nothing more than 'march down to the Capitol and peacefully and patriotically make their voices heard', they suddenly seem quite reasonable and innocuous. 

Let's be real...the a55holes who stormed the Capitol may have felt upset and betrayed at what they perceived to be a rigged election, and Trump is definitely guilty of propagating this feeling, but actually inciting violence??? No reasonable person having heard his speech in full could conclude that.

Guess I’m not a reasonable person then or allowed my own opinion, but hey, with respect eh?  However, seeing as he got impeached yesterday for “inciting violence”, it’s fair to say many have made the same conclusion.  I’ve highlit  extracts of his speech for discussion obviously. I’ve also heard it in its entirety and overall, yeah I think he encouraged what happened. Did he mean to? I very much doubt he sincerely wanted that outcome but no reasonable person can deny that speech had no impact on those in attendance, because it absolutely did. Plus, it’s not just about that one speech is it, it’s numerous things over the last few months. Throughout his presidency, he has not chosen his words wisely and being in that position of power, it’s simply something you have to have better control of IMO. 

1 hour ago, todai said:

This  impeachment was just so people could say he’s had it twice. 

This impeachment is so he can never stand for office again.  (Obviously any financial implications  or removal of pensions mean nothing to trump). 

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20 hours ago, Pez189 said:

Guess I’m not a reasonable person then or allowed my own opinion, but hey, with respect eh?  However, seeing as he got impeached yesterday for “inciting violence”, it’s fair to say many have made the same conclusion.  I’ve highlit  extracts of his speech for discussion obviously. I’ve also heard it in its entirety and overall, yeah I think he encouraged what happened. Did he mean to? I very much doubt he sincerely wanted that outcome but no reasonable person can deny that speech had no impact on those in attendance, because it absolutely did. Plus, it’s not just about that one speech is it, it’s numerous things over the last few months. Throughout his presidency, he has not chosen his words wisely and being in that position of power, it’s simply something you have to have better control of IMO. 

Don't get all precious on me, dude...of course you're allowed an opinion. Just like I'm allowed my opinion that West Brom are the best football team in the world ever - but I hope anyone with a modicum of objective, unbiased thinking would call me out on that!

Incitement is a very specific legal charge in the US. It basically is encouraging others to commit a criminal act, and whether Trump did this or not is not a matter of opinion - it's a matter of fact. Telling the crowd at his rally they're all gonna march down to the Capitol and 'peacefully make their voices heard' cannot reasonably be deemed by an impartial observer as incitement.

You're right in saying his speech probably did impact those in attendance, and you're also right that previous speeches and tweets stoked the fire of perceived injustice, too....but I'm not aware of Trump ever, in his entire presidency, calling for anything more than peaceful protest.....or, for that matter of him failing to condemn political violence on both sides of the aisle. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

In a similar way, when 10 cops were shot after Obama had given multiple speeches criticising the police, no reasonable person could conclude that he had incited people to kill cops. Were his words foolish, ill advised, and did they inflame racial tensions - yes they did. Would the killings have occurred if Obama hadn't endorsed anti-police sentiment - possibly not. But it's unreasonable to suggest that Obama encouraged cops killing because quite simply he did not.

And yes, Trump is a fool with a big mouth, but in fairness, when you've been part-quoted, misquoted and taken out of context literally every day by the mainstream media for 4 years, there's very little you can do to control that!

In the end, you'll probably be proven right and he'll be impeached for inciting violence. This impeachment has nothing to do with incitement, though. They're impeaching him cos they can't fcuking stand him, plain and simple. Unfortunately for Trump, this isn't a legal trial; if it was, it wouldn't even get to court. It is a political sideshow where opinions matter more than facts. Since the Dems now control both Congress and the Senate, it'll be rather like asking a load of baggies fans who they think is the greatest football team in the world ever. The majority would probably say West Brom.

....doesn't change the facts, though! :thumb

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The same thing that will happen to Johnson by the end of his mandate he is going to get sacked. It's been about a week since we left the EU, and you can already notice empty shelves at supermarkets, angry fisherman,angry companies, angry truck drivers, angry business in general.

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