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Parliament will debate “Prevent gyms closing due to a spike in Covid 19 cases”

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Signed up to the petition recently for the closure of gyms due to Covid..

I got an unexpected update today in my in-box
 

"Parliament is going to debate the petition you signed – “Prevent gyms closing due to a spike in Covid 19 cases”.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/333869

The debate is scheduled for 23 November 2020.

Once the debate has happened, we’ll email you a video and transcript.

Thanks,
The Petitions team
UK Government and Parliament"

Can't say I'm expecting a great deal but at least it is being discussed and getting some attention.

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Just now, MickeyE said:

I'm sure once any petition gets over a certain amount of signatures they have to debate the issue in parliament.

I very much doubt on this issue anything will cone of it or how many MPs will even be present.

Never know though. 

Exactly. It did say the number when I signed it but can't recall.

May as well make the most of the limited amount of due process available to us.

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Fair play and good luck! they made a bad decision closing gyms, can understand others but not gyms, like mcdonalds is remaining open? 
 

feel like absolute royalty being about to use the gym right now, would have been better in lockdown 1 but making the most of this lockdown, shame i got a operation coming up so need a few weeks to recover aparently, il give it a week, other gyms will be open by then anyway

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3 hours ago, Fors331 said:

Fair play and good luck! they made a bad decision closing gyms, can understand others but not gyms, like mcdonalds is remaining open? 
 

feel like absolute royalty being about to use the gym right now, would have been better in lockdown 1 but making the most of this lockdown, shame i got a operation coming up so need a few weeks to recover aparently, il give it a week, other gyms will be open by then anyway

My gyms open mate 

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21 hours ago, Fors331 said:

Fair play and good luck! they made a bad decision closing gyms, can understand others but not gyms, like mcdonalds is remaining open? 
 

feel like absolute royalty being about to use the gym right now, would have been better in lockdown 1 but making the most of this lockdown, shame i got a operation coming up so need a few weeks to recover aparently, il give it a week, other gyms will be open by then anyway

Sex change? 

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ive signed the petition, just hope it doesnt fall on deaf ears on the 23st.

at the start of all the shite they put adverts on TV encouraging people loose weight and exercise to help fight 'covid'.

yet now they close places to train and stay physically and mentally healthy, its all BS. 

the transmission rate from leisure is extremely low, so why they shut them i dont understand, very poor judgement, or part of a long term masterplan to control us all.

keep bars shut, open everything else.

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5 hours ago, SG83 said:

Don't forget to inform your MP about the debate and ensure to ask them how will and how did they vote for it

Thank you, yes  - I am doing that right now.

Reading my MP's views on the lockdown I am incredibly pleased  to see he is one of a few MP's who have had the courage to vote against a 2nd lockdown.

His views are here, for anyone interested.  ( No idea why anyone would be but  I  found it a decent read)

https://www.chris-green.org.uk/news/covid-19-and-my-view

He stepped down in his role as Parliament Private Secretary he feels that strongly about the whole situation.

His thoughts echo many of my own and it is refreshing to see these being reiterated by an MP.

So, yes, great suggestion  - write to your MP!

Extract from his article below.

"During the peak of the pandemic, it was clear that Covid-19 was a killer and was causing a huge increase in deaths.  Since then, even up until today, the death rate has been in line with what doctors would expect in a typical year.  Everyone knows that respiratory illnesses increase with the onset of winter and the start of the school year.  Whilst the Spanish Flu of 1918 attacked the young, Covid-19 targets the elderly, obese and those with other underlying health problems.  The average age of death of a victim of Covid-19 is about 83 which is a year older than average life expectancy in the UK.

So many months ago, when the first national lockdown was imposed, I supported the Government.  Now, our understanding has changed.  I voted against this second national lockdown and fear a third in the New Year because the cost of it is too high compared to the threat.

Across England, tens of millions fewer GP appointments have been had, 4.7 million fewer  hospital appointments have been attended and three million have not had cancer screening because of the lockdown. We do not yet know the details of the health impact these cancellations will have – it will be a number of years before we see the impact on cancer survival rates – but I do know that many people are already suffering and it is getting worse all the time.

Over 50,000 more people now have an undiagnosed cancer.  When and if it is discovered, will each patient have to undergo far harsher treatment or will it already be too late?

Pregnant women have been denied the support of their husband or partner when going for scans and treatment.  Dads-to-be have be denied the ability to give the support that they know their wife or partner needs.  I have heard of dads-to-be waiting in cold car parks for days on end, not knowing what joy or worry awaits them, of women who have been told sorry, there is no heartbeat, alone in a hospital room.

Where is the exit to this and what is the “new normal” for society?  How much closer to rock bottom are we going to get before the Government offers us a way out.  Despite the media excitement, the early crop of vaccinations do not promise to protect anyone from contracting the disease or prevent its onward transmission.  Is submitting to the mass testing the entire UK population every week a way out when the Prime Minister has gone into two weeks isolation even though he has the antibody immunity from Covid-19 that recovery gives and has since had a negative test?

Covid-19 is not the threat it was because we have learnt so much over the last nine months.  It is not the threat the Government thinks it is as their terrifying projections fall apart under the lightest of objective scrutiny.

Lockdown is doing for more damage than I could ever have imagined.  Health services, education, employment and so much of what makes life worth living have been taken away from so many and we have no assurance of when the return will be permitted.

The cycle of lockdowns has failed and the attempted cure is worse than the disease.  The Government, who have been supported by the opposition every step of the way, has the opportunity to reset their approach to restore normality whilst ensuring that those who need protection continue to receive it.

People do understand the real risks that Covid-19 presents so let us continue with high quality public information and encouragement to maintain those essential behaviour patterns that are key to reducing the spread of disease whilst allowing the majority to return to normal."

 

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1 hour ago, Lancashiregent said:

Thank you, yes  - I am doing that right now.

Reading my MP's views on the lockdown I am incredibly pleased  to see he is one of a few MP's who have had the courage to vote against a 2nd lockdown.

His views are here, for anyone interested.  ( No idea why anyone would be but  I  found it a decent read)

https://www.chris-green.org.uk/news/covid-19-and-my-view

He stepped down in his role as Parliament Private Secretary he feels that strongly about the whole situation.

His thoughts echo many of my own and it is refreshing to see these being reiterated by an MP.

So, yes, great suggestion  - write to your MP!

Extract from his article below.

"During the peak of the pandemic, it was clear that Covid-19 was a killer and was causing a huge increase in deaths.  Since then, even up until today, the death rate has been in line with what doctors would expect in a typical year.  Everyone knows that respiratory illnesses increase with the onset of winter and the start of the school year.  Whilst the Spanish Flu of 1918 attacked the young, Covid-19 targets the elderly, obese and those with other underlying health problems.  The average age of death of a victim of Covid-19 is about 83 which is a year older than average life expectancy in the UK.

So many months ago, when the first national lockdown was imposed, I supported the Government.  Now, our understanding has changed.  I voted against this second national lockdown and fear a third in the New Year because the cost of it is too high compared to the threat.

Across England, tens of millions fewer GP appointments have been had, 4.7 million fewer  hospital appointments have been attended and three million have not had cancer screening because of the lockdown. We do not yet know the details of the health impact these cancellations will have – it will be a number of years before we see the impact on cancer survival rates – but I do know that many people are already suffering and it is getting worse all the time.

Over 50,000 more people now have an undiagnosed cancer.  When and if it is discovered, will each patient have to undergo far harsher treatment or will it already be too late?

Pregnant women have been denied the support of their husband or partner when going for scans and treatment.  Dads-to-be have be denied the ability to give the support that they know their wife or partner needs.  I have heard of dads-to-be waiting in cold car parks for days on end, not knowing what joy or worry awaits them, of women who have been told sorry, there is no heartbeat, alone in a hospital room.

Where is the exit to this and what is the “new normal” for society?  How much closer to rock bottom are we going to get before the Government offers us a way out.  Despite the media excitement, the early crop of vaccinations do not promise to protect anyone from contracting the disease or prevent its onward transmission.  Is submitting to the mass testing the entire UK population every week a way out when the Prime Minister has gone into two weeks isolation even though he has the antibody immunity from Covid-19 that recovery gives and has since had a negative test?

Covid-19 is not the threat it was because we have learnt so much over the last nine months.  It is not the threat the Government thinks it is as their terrifying projections fall apart under the lightest of objective scrutiny.

Lockdown is doing for more damage than I could ever have imagined.  Health services, education, employment and so much of what makes life worth living have been taken away from so many and we have no assurance of when the return will be permitted.

The cycle of lockdowns has failed and the attempted cure is worse than the disease.  The Government, who have been supported by the opposition every step of the way, has the opportunity to reset their approach to restore normality whilst ensuring that those who need protection continue to receive it.

People do understand the real risks that Covid-19 presents so let us continue with high quality public information and encouragement to maintain those essential behaviour patterns that are key to reducing the spread of disease whilst allowing the majority to return to normal."

 

He sounds OK TBF. Yeh he royally fuked up in supporting the first lock down  but at least he's now worked  out what all of us with common sense knew from the beginning.

That should be applauded for a politician. 

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