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Looking at a new cycle of test, tren and masterone,  and cant decide between short and long rip esters?

I ran TTM long rip for 6 weeks before the gyms were shut down and got some great gains, 

Never ran short esters and main concern being injecting eod and price

 

Long rip 2ml per week

Testosterone Enanthate 250mg/ml

Trenbolone Enanthate 250mg/ml

Masteron Enanthate 200mg/ml

 

Short rip 3ml per week

225mg Testosterone Propionate

225mg Trenbolone Acetate

150mg masteron Propionate

 

I know gains come faster from short esters but at week 8 which would i be seeing best results from going through to week 12?

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Long rip 100%

Anything with Tren in really doesn’t take long to get going so not like you‘ll be waiting long

Add that too the fact you’ll need to jab the short EOD which is a chore in my opinion, then realistically any accurately dosed Short rip blend is going to have some degree of bite. 

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27 minutes ago, gamingcrook said:

Looking at a new cycle of test, tren and masterone,  and cant decide between short and long rip esters?

I ran TTM long rip for 6 weeks before the gyms were shut down and got some great gains, 

Never ran short esters and main concern being injecting eod and price

 

Long rip 2ml per week

Testosterone Enanthate 250mg/ml

Trenbolone Enanthate 250mg/ml

Masteron Enanthate 200mg/ml

 

Short rip 3ml per week

225mg Testosterone Propionate

225mg Trenbolone Acetate

150mg masteron Propionate

 

I know gains come faster from short esters but at week 8 which would i be seeing best results from going through to week 12?

Only you know how much you can be arsed with extra pinning and the extra cost mate

All You're gonna get here is guy's preferences for themselves

Which I'll demonstrate perfectly with my answer...which is the opposite of @Towel

I'd always go short esters

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5 minutes ago, stuey99 said:

Only you know how much you can be arsed with extra pinning and the extra cost mate

All You're gonna get here is guy's preferences for themselves

Which I'll demonstrate perfectly with my answer...which is the opposite of @Towel

I'd always go short esters

True, some guys I know pin like it’s nothing 

I lay in my belly and distract myself while my mrs does it, so I’m limited to 2 jabs a week max before she tells me to f**k off so shorts are no option for me 

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I’ve done a couple shorter ester cycles and tbh I didn’t like them due to the amount of pinning and more likely hood of pip. I much prefer longer ester cycles and it’s all I will do from now on, of course this Is my personal preference but I personally don’t think there’s any point doing a cycle if you don’t enjoy it. That’s why I like long esters less pinning, and less chance of pip I just like to have a nice long cycle with nice steady and predictable gains  that I enjoy. 

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10 minutes ago, Towel said:

True, some guys I know pin like it’s nothing 

I lay in my belly and distract myself while my mrs does it, so I’m limited to 2 jabs a week max before she tells me to f**k off so shorts are no option for me 

Running test and mast enth and prop now...and sdrol

So 2 pins a day sometines

Doesn't bother me

Although does get a bit boring lol

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17 minutes ago, stuey99 said:

Running test and mast enth and prop now...and sdrol

So 2 pins a day sometines

Doesn't bother me

Although does get a bit boring lol

f**k that.  Having to pin 3ml twice a week is boring the s**t out of me and I’m fu**ing useless with pinning.

Cant wait to get back to once a week!

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11 minutes ago, gamingcrook said:

great would u guys reccommend front loading with some oral? or will the tren kick in that soon?

You frontload with higher doses of whatever injectables you're using mate

You're talking about a kickstart

Again...some will say use one...if they're impatient and want to see gains sooner

Some will say don't bother

Again...this is based on their preference

What do you want?

Kick in doesn't depend on the compound, it depends on the ester

Enanthate will generally take between 3-4 weeks to see results 

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8 hours ago, gamingcrook said:

ah sorry then i guess kick start is what im looking at, i want some early big strength gains so when the oils kick in im at max performance in the gym,

IMO the only orals that fit here would be winnie or oxys

No dbol, as you don't want high estrogen with tren

No var cos it doesn't kick in quick

No tbol, cos it's s**t

Oh...possibly sdrol

Try injectable versions mate

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9 hours ago, stuey99 said:

IMO the only orals that fit here would be winnie or oxys

No dbol, as you don't want high estrogen with tren

No var cos it doesn't kick in quick

No tbol, cos it's s**t

Oh...possibly sdrol

Try injectable versions mate

thanks ill probably just skip the orals altogether then apart from ai

do the doses look ok at 

Long rip 2ml per week

Testosterone Enanthate 250mg/ml

Trenbolone Enanthate 250mg/ml

Masteron Enanthate 200mg/ml

pw?

read some articles mentioning test as high as 700mg

with 400+tren seems abit much

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3 hours ago, gamingcrook said:

thanks ill probably just skip the orals altogether then apart from ai

do the doses look ok at 

Long rip 2ml per week

Testosterone Enanthate 250mg/ml

Trenbolone Enanthate 250mg/ml

Masteron Enanthate 200mg/ml

pw?

read some articles mentioning test as high as 700mg

with 400+tren seems abit much

250test 250tren is nice mate

Do you know what AI dose you're gonna use?

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