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Since starting everything was fine, I have been blasting and cruising for around about a year and a half.

After my last blast of Tren Deca and Test which finished in December, I have zero libido and zero erections, no morning wood and havent been able to have a sex life. 

I have tried absolutely everything, trt with ai, trt no ai, different dosing schedules, raising test, lowering test, fixing dopamine issues, caber etc 

Even when bloodwork looks fine the problem is still there

I am even getting to the point where I'm thinking of coming off completely, which leads me to say, is this even plausible after nearly two years.

I mean I had high hopes to do really well in bodybuilding but the fact I cant f**k is the worst, literally would rather be 9 stone soaking wet than this!

Have also tried DHTs, and anything I can think of

Does anyone have literally any suggestions and if its plausible to come off how to go about this, as that's my last punt.. 

My suggestion to myself would be trt but like I said, even then I have no luck. I dont know if my body just is incapable of being chemically altered or if its just damage from the tren and deca, and if it is.. how the f**k do I fix it!

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6 minutes ago, GR95 said:

Since starting everything was fine, I have been blasting and cruising for around about a year and a half.

After my last blast of Tren Deca and Test which finished in December, I have zero libido and zero erections, no morning wood and havent been able to have a sex life. 

I have tried absolutely everything, trt with ai, trt no ai, different dosing schedules, raising test, lowering test, fixing dopamine issues, caber etc 

Even when bloodwork looks fine the problem is still there

I am even getting to the point where I'm thinking of coming off completely, which leads me to say, is this even plausible after nearly two years.

I mean I had high hopes to do really well in bodybuilding but the fact I cant f**k is the worst, literally would rather be 9 stone soaking wet than this!

Have also tried DHTs, and anything I can think of

Does anyone have literally any suggestions and if its plausible to come off how to go about this, as that's my last punt.. 

My suggestion to myself would be trt but like I said, even then I have no luck. I dont know if my body just is incapable of being chemically altered or if its just damage from the tren and deca, and if it is.. how the f**k do I fix it!

If bloods are good then this is most likely psychological mate

Does viagra/cialis work for you?

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2 minutes ago, stuey99 said:

If bloods are good then this is most likely psychological mate

Does viagra/cialis work for you?

Hello again bud, It was deffo the tren as as soon as I took it, bam ED and Libido problems

Also no morning wood for 7 months straight? 

I havent had a boner in 8 months even with ciallis

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18 minutes ago, GR95 said:

Hello again bud, It was deffo the tren as as soon as I took it, bam ED and Libido problems

Also no morning wood for 7 months straight? 

I havent had a boner in 8 months even with ciallis

I'm sure it was the tren mate

But tren kicking off libido problems can then lead to a psychological issue once the tren is no longer the problem

@El Chapo might be able to think of something I haven't 

Do you have blood results? 

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1 hour ago, GR95 said:

Since starting everything was fine, I have been blasting and cruising for around about a year and a half.

After my last blast of Tren Deca and Test which finished in December, I have zero libido and zero erections, no morning wood and havent been able to have a sex life. 

I have tried absolutely everything, trt with ai, trt no ai, different dosing schedules, raising test, lowering test, fixing dopamine issues, caber etc 

Even when bloodwork looks fine the problem is still there

I am even getting to the point where I'm thinking of coming off completely, which leads me to say, is this even plausible after nearly two years.

I mean I had high hopes to do really well in bodybuilding but the fact I cant f**k is the worst, literally would rather be 9 stone soaking wet than this!

Have also tried DHTs, and anything I can think of

Does anyone have literally any suggestions and if its plausible to come off how to go about this, as that's my last punt.. 

My suggestion to myself would be trt but like I said, even then I have no luck. I dont know if my body just is incapable of being chemically altered or if its just damage from the tren and deca, and if it is.. how the f**k do I fix it!

I would go off it completely. I know it doesn’t appealing. But can you imagine 2 years down the road after being completely off them youv got a sex drive again. Saying that youv not said your age. If your in your early 20s I would say it would be essential to get your sex drive back. But if your in your 40s it might not be worth coming off completely because you might not ever get it back and met aswell stay on trt. I’m not an expert but that’s what I would think 

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21 minutes ago, Jackoffblades said:

I would go off it completely. I know it doesn’t appealing. But can you imagine 2 years down the road after being completely off them youv got a sex drive again. Saying that youv not said your age. If your in your early 20s I would say it would be essential to get your sex drive back. But if your in your 40s it might not be worth coming off completely because you might not ever get it back and met aswell stay on trt. I’m not an expert but that’s what I would think 

I'm 25, if I come off is there anyone who has a protocol that has worked for them coming off with hcg etc etc? 

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1 hour ago, GR95 said:

Since starting everything was fine, I have been blasting and cruising for around about a year and a half.

After my last blast of Tren Deca and Test which finished in December, I have zero libido and zero erections, no morning wood and havent been able to have a sex life. 

I have tried absolutely everything, trt with ai, trt no ai, different dosing schedules, raising test, lowering test, fixing dopamine issues, caber etc 

Even when bloodwork looks fine the problem is still there

I am even getting to the point where I'm thinking of coming off completely, which leads me to say, is this even plausible after nearly two years.

I mean I had high hopes to do really well in bodybuilding but the fact I cant f**k is the worst, literally would rather be 9 stone soaking wet than this!

Have also tried DHTs, and anything I can think of

Does anyone have literally any suggestions and if its plausible to come off how to go about this, as that's my last punt.. 

My suggestion to myself would be trt but like I said, even then I have no luck. I dont know if my body just is incapable of being chemically altered or if its just damage from the tren and deca, and if it is.. how the f**k do I fix it!

Looking back do you think Tren and Nandrolone was a wise choice?

Surely you could achieve great muscle growth with one or the other?

Hate to say it...self to blame! 
 

Come off completely, get bloods done before during and after complete abstinence then run a full PCT but it looks like steroid induced erectile disfunction.

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4 minutes ago, KETONES said:

 

Hate to say it...self to blame! 
 

 

In what way exactly do you think tren and nandrolone is causing this issue 9 months down the line?

It's all well and good telling him he's to blame

But how? What has mixing to 19nors done exactly? 

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6 minutes ago, KETONES said:

Looking back do you think Tren and Nandrolone was a wise choice?

Surely you could achieve great muscle growth with one or the other?

Hate to say it...self to blame! 
 

Come off completely, get bloods done before during and after complete abstinence then run a full PCT but it looks like steroid induced erectile disfunction.

Absolutely not mate, it was pure idiocy, I'm not blaming anyone else atall..

I wish I had kept it sensible but the damage is done

Just a regular pct good enough, and how long to leave it for bloods?

How much hcg, nolva, clomid etc and anything else??

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25 minutes ago, stuey99 said:

In what way exactly do you think tren and nandrolone is causing this issue 9 months down the line?

It's all well and good telling him he's to blame

But how? What has mixing to 19nors done exactly? 

No way of telling with out extensive tests and evaluations by a qualified endo!

Nobody can answer that question?

I wouldn’t recommend to keep using for 9 months after experiencing issues like this without consultation with a private endo....NHS waste of time!

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Maybe try this

Deca seems to mess some people up for months/years. I wouldn't come off. Upping test with no ai or mast has always fixed my libido issues. I'd try that and the above

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13 minutes ago, KETONES said:

No way of telling with out extensive tests and evaluations by a qualified endo!

Nobody can answer that question?

I wouldn’t recommend to keep using for 9 months after experiencing issues like this without consultation with a private endo....NHS waste of time!

But surely if you're saying he's only got himself to blame you must have some idea of how using tren and deca would be causing these issues 9 months later?

Otherwise why would you say it?

You can't tell someone it's their fault without being able to justify why

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44 minutes ago, GR95 said:

Absolutely not mate, it was pure idiocy, I'm not blaming anyone else atall..

I wish I had kept it sensible but the damage is done

Just a regular pct good enough, and how long to leave it for bloods?

How much hcg, nolva, clomid etc and anything else??

If bloods are fine then the damage isn't done? What's the damage? If your blod work is fine then there is none

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@GR95I beleive I've discussed this with you before and told you this is most likely psychological 

And in this thread you state you've tried EVERYTHING...

Yet you haven't listed anything about investigating the psychological issue?

Have you thought about this at all??? Or are you just continuing to convince yourself this is physical...even tho bloods say your fine?

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11 minutes ago, stuey99 said:

But surely if you're saying he's only got himself to blame you must have some idea of how using tren and deca would be causing these issues 9 months later?

Otherwise why would you say it?

You can't tell someone it's their fault without being able to justify why

So you don’t think that’s overkill!

Like using a scud missile to hammer a nail in ffs?

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8 minutes ago, stuey99 said:

@GR95I beleive I've discussed this with you before and told you this is most likely psychological 

And in this thread you state you've tried EVERYTHING...

Yet you haven't listed anything about investigating the psychological issue?

Have you thought about this at all??? Or are you just continuing to convince yourself this is physical...even tho bloods say your fine?

There is no way it can be psychological when there is no morning wood when before tren i had morning wood every day?

I'm literally asleep, so how would psychological issues affect morning wood?

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2 minutes ago, KETONES said:

So you don’t think that’s overkill!

Like using a scud missile to hammer a nail in ffs?

Yes I absolutely think mixing two 19nors is overkill...but that's really not the conversation

We've got a lad struggling with low libido 9 months post cycle with bloodwork that is apparently fine...and you're telling him he's to blame for mixing tren and deca...

So how is he to blame? What are the possibilities you know of which mixing these two compounds could cause his issues nearly a year later, with blood work coming in fine?

Do you actually know of any???

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5 minutes ago, GR95 said:

There is no way it can be psychological when there is no morning wood when before tren i had morning wood every day?

I'm literally asleep, so how would psychological issues affect morning wood?

Your brain doesn't function while your asleep no?

Mate it's upto you what you want to believe 

You say bloodwork is fine

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11 minutes ago, stuey99 said:

Your brain doesn't function while your asleep no?

Mate it's upto you what you want to believe 

You say bloodwork is fine

Of course, but wouldn't that indicate that there is a signalling/receptor problem?

As opposed to a pshycological/thinking/anxiety problem

 

Also what's the solution for this as ciallis and viagra don't work

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Just now, GR95 said:

Of course, but wouldn't that indicate that there is a signalling/receptor problem?

As opposed to a pshycological/thinking/anxiety problem

 

Also what's the solution for this as ciallis and viagra don't work

Well I believe we had this discussion a good few months back mate

Almost word for word

It's still a medical problem

Have you spoke to a doctor? Or just insisted on messing round with dosages and AIs despite bloods telling you that's not the problem?

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This seems to be a reoccurring issue around here. 

Can't imagine why guys want to f**k with 19ors considering. What is the point of the gainz if you can't even get a boner?

On the flipside, my boners are out of control running a test only cycle. Can definitely be too much of a good thing lol.

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1 hour ago, stuey99 said:

@GR95I beleive I've discussed this with you before and told you this is most likely psychological 

And in this thread you state you've tried EVERYTHING...

Yet you haven't listed anything about investigating the psychological issue?

Have you thought about this at all??? Or are you just continuing to convince yourself this is physical...even tho bloods say your fine?

Bloods don't tell the whole story. 

Quacks have no idea how to deal with the effects of AAS which weren't meant for human use, and have no significant medical studies available. They're just shooting in the dark. 

I'd agree with OP that it's probably a receptor issue. Steroids f**k with neurotransmitters as well so who knows. 

Readup on "post finasteride syndrome" for another case of a drug that messes with androgens and doctors have no idea why it causes long term libido issues in a percentage of men. 

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