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I could have posted this in the conspiracy theory thread, but didn't want it to get lost amongst the arguments and name calling. 

 

Me, I'm not sure. But I do find this sort of stuff fascinating, and I think it never hurts to have an open mind. 

 

Try and be civil guys! 

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Just now, Youdontknowme said:

Oh bore off. Post some pics of your physique, tell us what you’re eating , your most and least favourite lifts. Not this ducking bollox. 

You angry today??

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Just now, Youdontknowme said:

Oh bore off. Post some pics of your physique, tell us what you’re eating , your most and least favourite lifts. Not this ducking bollox. 

Sorry mate, didn't mean to offend anyone. 

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I asked my mate if 9/11 was an inside job. He said he didn't know but he once did an inside job himself. This sparked my interest, so I asked him what he did.

He said "I once fitted a carpet for someone".

I said "how's that an inside job?"

He said "well I'm hardly going to fit a carpet outside am I?" 

 

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29 minutes ago, EpicSquats said:

I asked my mate if 9/11 was an inside job. He said he didn't know but he once did an inside job himself. This sparked my interest, so I asked him what he did.

He said "I once fitted a carpet for someone".

I said "how's that an inside job?"

He said "well I'm hardly going to fit a carpet outside am I?" 

 

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There's a lot of evidence pointing towards it being a false flag attack like the one we are seeing today with the "pandemic". Both are wars when you think about it, or should I say, both started wars after they happened and both put forward A LOT of changes in law that were too coincidental to have simply just happened because of the events that transpired. In regards to 9/11 there are many facts out there which are accepted as truths but not actually mainstream, such as 30 minutes prior to the Twin Towers being attacked the guy who owned the buildings got paid out on his insurance. Buildings nearby were also evacuated before the planes went into the TT buildings, including a government building which was setup as a command post for joined government agencies to assess and respond to emergencies in New York. Many government officials and VIPs were told explicitly NOT to be in New York on 9/11 because there was a live simulation underway, this is mainstream as the military publicly declared there were simultaneous live exercises/drills going on prior to during the actual alleged hijackings. For the past week or so, maybe longer, the military was conducting live exercises which simulated, you guessed it, hijackings and attacks on the TT buildings. They called them "suicidal hijackings" however. This is what caused so much confusion with ATC in New York because they originally did not get wind of the severity of the incidents until after they happened due to being told not to respond to serious events as these were considered live simulations. Fighter jets were also not summoned despite being able to arrive in NYC before the planes hit the TT buildings and potentially destroy them before they did. They had wind of what was going on, obviously being US military, but were told NOT to scramble.

There is also A LOT of evidence pointing towards the downing of the buildings as being controlled demolitions. This has been posited by experts worldwide who have spent their entire careers in fields related to understanding the events that happened on 9/11. There are various genuine websites out there full of lawyers, scientists, engineers, aviation experts, academics etc who have disproven the theory that the buildings would simply cascade down like they did from 2 planes hitting them. They were stable until they suddenly plummeted to the ground and would have stood forever more if they had not been brought down. Buildings like TT buildings were designed to withstand some of Earth's most brutal forces including the WORST natural scenarios imagined. This is obviously important as you don't make a building that houses THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of people high into the sky out of plastic and play-doh.

To top it all off, the US government the very next morning launched the War on Terror despite NO investigations taking place, which would have lasted months at the very minimum, years to be more realistic. In a quick turnaround they knew EVERYTHING that had happened and now had an army ready to invade Afghanistan, within less than 24 hours. They had elaborate plans for war despite these taking many many months if not years to create and perfect. You do not go to war overnight without any planning, and so this planning must have extended WELL BEFORE the planes hit the building, which then makes you wonder, how were they so prepared to invade Afghanistan after an event that happened they apparently had no idea about?

Not just that but it ushered in a new police/surveillance state which is now the foundations of our modern society ie mandatory surveillance, mass data collection, police reformed as paramilitary type forces instead of your local bobbies, ability to detain someone for 72 hours without any good reason, a legal blanket to invade any country based on nothing but the ideology of terrorism abroad which could be used without much questioning and has since been the reason why we have invaded pretty much ALL of the Middle East. There were also laws signed in to existence which gave governments overarching emergency powers that enabled them to take control of populations that were unheard of before then, and all in the apparent guise of preventing terrorism. A threat that most people have yet only seen on mainstream news, in movies and occasionally with terrorist false flag events like the London bombings. All of which intelligence and security agencies were apparently aware of the suspects but took no action. Makes you wonder why with all this apparatus and resources this war never seems to be won. Makes you wonder why they wanted to start this war in the first place and how they managed to pull it off where otherwise it would have never happened if brought to the people by due democratic process.

 

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49 minutes ago, daringhorse said:

There's a lot of evidence pointing towards it being a false flag attack like the one we are seeing today with the "pandemic". Both are wars when you think about it, or should I say, both started wars after they happened and both put forward A LOT of changes in law that were too coincidental to have simply just happened because of the events that transpired. In regards to 9/11 there are many facts out there which are accepted as truths but not actually mainstream, such as 30 minutes prior to the Twin Towers being attacked the guy who owned the buildings got paid out on his insurance. Buildings nearby were also evacuated before the planes went into the TT buildings, including a government building which was setup as a command post for joined government agencies to assess and respond to emergencies in New York. Many government officials and VIPs were told explicitly NOT to be in New York on 9/11 because there was a live simulation underway, this is mainstream as the military publicly declared there were simultaneous live exercises/drills going on prior to during the actual alleged hijackings. For the past week or so, maybe longer, the military was conducting live exercises which simulated, you guessed it, hijackings and attacks on the TT buildings. They called them "suicidal hijackings" however. This is what caused so much confusion with ATC in New York because they originally did not get wind of the severity of the incidents until after they happened due to being told not to respond to serious events as these were considered live simulations. Fighter jets were also not summoned despite being able to arrive in NYC before the planes hit the TT buildings and potentially destroy them before they did. They had wind of what was going on, obviously being US military, but were told NOT to scramble.

There is also A LOT of evidence pointing towards the downing of the buildings as being controlled demolitions. This has been posited by experts worldwide who have spent their entire careers in fields related to understanding the events that happened on 9/11. There are various genuine websites out there full of lawyers, scientists, engineers, aviation experts, academics etc who have disproven the theory that the buildings would simply cascade down like they did from 2 planes hitting them. They were stable until they suddenly plummeted to the ground and would have stood forever more if they had not been brought down. Buildings like TT buildings were designed to withstand some of Earth's most brutal forces including the WORST natural scenarios imagined. This is obviously important as you don't make a building that houses THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of people high into the sky out of plastic and play-doh.

To top it all off, the US government the very next morning launched the War on Terror despite NO investigations taking place, which would have lasted months at the very minimum, years to be more realistic. In a quick turnaround they knew EVERYTHING that had happened and now had an army ready to invade Afghanistan, within less than 24 hours. They had elaborate plans for war despite these taking many many months if not years to create and perfect. You do not go to war overnight without any planning, and so this planning must have extended WELL BEFORE the planes hit the building, which then makes you wonder, how were they so prepared to invade Afghanistan after an event that happened they apparently had no idea about?

Not just that but it ushered in a new police/surveillance state which is now the foundations of our modern society ie mandatory surveillance, mass data collection, police reformed as paramilitary type forces instead of your local bobbies, ability to detain someone for 72 hours without any good reason, a legal blanket to invade any country based on nothing but the ideology of terrorism abroad which could be used without much questioning and has since been the reason why we have invaded pretty much ALL of the Middle East. There were also laws signed in to existence which gave governments overarching emergency powers that enabled them to take control of populations that were unheard of before then, and all in the apparent guise of preventing terrorism. A threat that most people have yet only seen on mainstream news, in movies and occasionally with terrorist false flag events like the London bombings. All of which intelligence and security agencies were apparently aware of the suspects but took no action. Makes you wonder why with all this apparatus and resources this war never seems to be won. Makes you wonder why they wanted to start this war in the first place and how they managed to pull it off where otherwise it would have never happened if brought to the people by due democratic process.

 

Can you simplify that for me please. 

Not a cat in hells chance will I read all that 

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25 minutes ago, G-man99 said:

Can you simplify that for me please. 

Not a cat in hells chance will I read all that 

No. Life isn't simplified down to a sentence a child can read. I suggest you pull your pants up young man and embrace the reality of the world you live in instead of expecting everything to be explained in one sentence. Might explain why you can't bring yourself to read something that isn't really that long in all honesty (there are books on this subject that are 500+ pages written for people who do have the ability to read past the title) because it could simply be a reflection of you and your habits and why you struggle to do anything that involves more than doing basic things. Hey, your life. The truth is out there and everyone is entitled to it. Everyone is also entitled to live their best possible life and they probably know their best possible life doesn't happen by simply reading a small sentence. It takes more effort.

No skin off my nose. You're just telling the world you're not on a high enough level to engage with someone who is more interested than passing emoticons and small talk about something which is way more complicated and takes a lot more intelligence than that to understand. So if that's the case why not simply leave writing a pointless reply like you did and go and talk about the weather or share old wives tales with old people on the bus because that's obviously where you are more comfortable being. You're like a homeless person who barges into a decent get together among decent worldly people, don't get angry because other people are living a better life. Simply raise your awareness and maybe one day you can be those people. By replying like you did you're just showing the world you are in the gutter. Not something to boast about even though you think you're clever with the reply you just fired back at me with.

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11 minutes ago, daringhorse said:

No. Life isn't simplified down to a sentence a child can read. I suggest you pull your pants up young man and embrace the reality of the world you live in instead of expecting everything to be explained in one sentence. Might explain why you can't bring yourself to read something that isn't really that long in all honesty (there are books on this subject that are 500+ pages written for people who do have the ability to read past the title) because it could simply be a reflection of you and your habits and why you struggle to do anything that involves more than doing basic things. Hey, your life. The truth is out there and everyone is entitled to it. Everyone is also entitled to live their best possible life and they probably know their best possible life doesn't happen by simply reading a small sentence. It takes more effort.

No skin off my nose. You're just telling the world you're not on a high enough level to engage with someone who is more interested than passing emoticons and small talk about something which is way more complicated and takes a lot more intelligence than that to understand. So if that's the case why not simply leave writing a pointless reply like you did and go and talk about the weather or share old wives tales with old people on the bus.

Read it and was underwhelmed to be honest

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1 hour ago, daringhorse said:

There's a lot of evidence pointing towards it being a false flag attack like the one we are seeing today with the "pandemic". Both are wars when you think about it, or should I say, both started wars after they happened and both put forward A LOT of changes in law that were too coincidental to have simply just happened because of the events that transpired. In regards to 9/11 there are many facts out there which are accepted as truths but not actually mainstream, such as 30 minutes prior to the Twin Towers being attacked the guy who owned the buildings got paid out on his insurance. Buildings nearby were also evacuated before the planes went into the TT buildings, including a government building which was setup as a command post for joined government agencies to assess and respond to emergencies in New York. Many government officials and VIPs were told explicitly NOT to be in New York on 9/11 because there was a live simulation underway, this is mainstream as the military publicly declared there were simultaneous live exercises/drills going on prior to during the actual alleged hijackings. For the past week or so, maybe longer, the military was conducting live exercises which simulated, you guessed it, hijackings and attacks on the TT buildings. They called them "suicidal hijackings" however. This is what caused so much confusion with ATC in New York because they originally did not get wind of the severity of the incidents until after they happened due to being told not to respond to serious events as these were considered live simulations. Fighter jets were also not summoned despite being able to arrive in NYC before the planes hit the TT buildings and potentially destroy them before they did. They had wind of what was going on, obviously being US military, but were told NOT to scramble.

There is also A LOT of evidence pointing towards the downing of the buildings as being controlled demolitions. This has been posited by experts worldwide who have spent their entire careers in fields related to understanding the events that happened on 9/11. There are various genuine websites out there full of lawyers, scientists, engineers, aviation experts, academics etc who have disproven the theory that the buildings would simply cascade down like they did from 2 planes hitting them. They were stable until they suddenly plummeted to the ground and would have stood forever more if they had not been brought down. Buildings like TT buildings were designed to withstand some of Earth's most brutal forces including the WORST natural scenarios imagined. This is obviously important as you don't make a building that houses THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of people high into the sky out of plastic and play-doh.

To top it all off, the US government the very next morning launched the War on Terror despite NO investigations taking place, which would have lasted months at the very minimum, years to be more realistic. In a quick turnaround they knew EVERYTHING that had happened and now had an army ready to invade Afghanistan, within less than 24 hours. They had elaborate plans for war despite these taking many many months if not years to create and perfect. You do not go to war overnight without any planning, and so this planning must have extended WELL BEFORE the planes hit the building, which then makes you wonder, how were they so prepared to invade Afghanistan after an event that happened they apparently had no idea about?

Not just that but it ushered in a new police/surveillance state which is now the foundations of our modern society ie mandatory surveillance, mass data collection, police reformed as paramilitary type forces instead of your local bobbies, ability to detain someone for 72 hours without any good reason, a legal blanket to invade any country based on nothing but the ideology of terrorism abroad which could be used without much questioning and has since been the reason why we have invaded pretty much ALL of the Middle East. There were also laws signed in to existence which gave governments overarching emergency powers that enabled them to take control of populations that were unheard of before then, and all in the apparent guise of preventing terrorism. A threat that most people have yet only seen on mainstream news, in movies and occasionally with terrorist false flag events like the London bombings. All of which intelligence and security agencies were apparently aware of the suspects but took no action. Makes you wonder why with all this apparatus and resources this war never seems to be won. Makes you wonder why they wanted to start this war in the first place and how they managed to pull it off where otherwise it would have never happened if brought to the people by due democratic process.

 

This is just more utter bullshit!! The towers were built to survive natural disasters, the sort of natural disasters that happen in new York City. They were also designed to withstand a plane flying in to them... but guess what, it was a passenger plane emptied of fuel as nobody in the 70s thought anyone would crash a fuel laden plane into the towers, they imagined sanely at that time that the pilot would jettison all the fuel to lesson the damage. Radical Islam wasn't even on anyones radar till the 90s when the towers had already been up 20 years. In order to accommodate more lift shafts, so as to allow people to reach their workplace without masses of waiting, handy in 110 floor building, they designed them with a radical design whereby there was a central structure with an outside skin and joined by steel decks. These decks were covered in spray on fire proofing which ordinarily would protect the steel joints. Due to the huge impact, the planes weren't going slowly and without fuel as expected in the design stage 30 years previously, the fireproofing was blown off and the steel joints exposed. Aviation fuel burns at a high temperature and steel loses much of it's rigidity at high temps. The joints failed and the steel decks fell internally eventually leaving a large section above the crash site supported only by the external skin which was never designed to take that load so it also failed and the buildings fell in on themselves exactly as happened. No conspiracy,  no inside job, just s**t happening again as it always does. Oddly the case looking into the disaster was among the largest and most thorough in legal history and found zero evidence of anything other than exactly what it was, a very successful attack by terrorists. Yet oddly that's never enough because everyone is in on it. You'll now take offence at my comment and come back with lots to try to prove your point, basically stating how governments are using this type of event to stifle free speech whilst insulting me and shouting me down because my view differs from yours and how dare I! I won't even read what you put, not because I'm a sheeple etc but because I don't believe any of it and so can't be arsed. So save yourself the trouble, by all means write something for the others to read but please don't expect me to. I've read and replied to your first so that's enough 

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