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Performance enhancing drug discussion: Mtren

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Mtren (Methyltrienolone, Metribolone) 

Metribolone (developmental code name R1881), also known as methyltrienolone, is a synthetic and orally active anabolic–androgenic steroid (AAS) and a 17α-alkylated nandrolone (19-nortestosterone) derivative which was never marketed for medical use but has been widely used in scientific research as a hot ligand in androgen receptor (AR) ligand binding assays (LBAs) and as a photoaffinity label for the AR.

Esters:

  • NA / 17aa oral steroid


Route of administration:

  • Oral
  • Injection (intramuscular and subcutaneous) 


post your experiences with this compound in regards to:

cycle length, dosage and other compounds used if applicable.
side effects you physically noticed and blood work results.
how you rate the compound overall / comparisons to other compounds of similar nature, your overall gains vs the side effects.


(keep discussion largely centered to the subject matter, excessive derailing will be deleted) 

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my experience was during my last meet when I pinned 2.5mg of mtren and it was nothing short of a laser like pre workout mixed with the most insane sweats of my life

I kind of had a bit of a rush driving to the competition as it was and felt a bit weird warming up but once I got into the main room and was waiting for my first attempt I said to the guy next to me "jesus it's hot in here isnt it? feels like a greenhouse" and he said "nope that'll be the tren" as a half joke (unbeknownst to him)

and I looked at him and several of the other lifters and they still had sweaters on over their singlets whilst I'm stood there in a singlet and t shirt with drops of sweat falling off the back of my head onto my traps having done a total of about 7 reps in the warm up room

completely drenched the bench in brine after every attempt, it was nasty.

great focus and aggression as well as a stimulant like effect so much so that once I was done with my third attempt in this bench only meet I drove back to my local gym for a piss about chest session and got the most insane pump I've ever had in the absence of exogenous insulin.

physique changes I couldn't comment on since I've only ever used it pre competition or pre big lift and still have the same vial I bought a couple years back.


so fwiw based on that

pros
* great focus
* good gym aggression
* mental pump
cons
* sweat like you never have in your life
* and of course its extremely hepatotoxic and nukes lipids but cant directly comment on this based on my sparse usage

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36 minutes ago, swole troll said:

my experience was during my last meet when I pinned 2.5mg of mtren and it was nothing short of a laser like pre workout mixed with the most insane sweats of my life

I kind of had a bit of a rush driving to the competition as it was and felt a bit weird warming up but once I got into the main room and was waiting for my first attempt I said to the guy next to me "jesus it's hot in here isnt it? feels like a greenhouse" and he said "nope that'll be the tren" as a half joke (unbeknownst to him)

and I looked at him and several of the other lifters and they still had sweaters on over their singlets whilst I'm stood there in a singlet and t shirt with drops of sweat falling off the back of my head onto my traps having done a total of about 7 reps in the warm up room

completely drenched the bench in brine after every attempt, it was nasty.

great focus and aggression as well as a stimulant like effect so much so that once I was done with my third attempt in this bench only meet I drove back to my local gym for a piss about chest session and got the most insane pump I've ever had in the absence of exogenous insulin.

physique changes I couldn't comment on since I've only ever used it pre competition or pre big lift and still have the same vial I bought a couple years back.


so fwiw based on that

pros
* great focus
* good gym aggression
* mental pump
cons
* sweat like you never have in your life
* and of course its extremely hepatotoxic and nukes lipids but cant directly comment on this based on my sparse usage

Sounds good!! Although I don’t really see the use of Pre-Workout for myself as my goals aren’t strength orientated and hitting big pbs in gym isn’t really important too me. However it would be good to experiment with before a big back or leg session occasionally. 
mad how it has a stim like effect , wouldn’t have thought that! 
I’m guessing the toxicity is same regardless of it being inj or oral? 

 

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This stuff is genuinely nasty as f**k for lipids and liver values. 1mg / day oral, was worse for my lipids than 150mg winstrol. My liver panel hit the max it would go even on tudca and nac.  I've never had an oral mess me up as bad as that did.

I didn't like the instant blood pressure rise. I was constantly clenching my jaw and fists without knowing. Sweating from any movement, but not just workout sweat, like balls of sweat running down my body.

Makes you really immediately "strong". Also very immediately irritable and angry. As mentioned above, probably useful as a substance to peak on for a strength meet.  Defo not something to consider using for weeks at a time.

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The only compound I’ve taken that changes how I look overnight, although not permanently 

I’ve been pining some Inone pharma mtren pwo lately to get me in the mood for my garden training sessions.

Pump, aggression and focus are insane but the next morning I wake up like all the waters been sucked out me and I have veins all over, was quite a shock the first time 

A side note I’ll add, got carried used it 3 days in a row, felt very sick on the 4th day, very similar feeling to running high dose orals for to long, so will save for leg days only from now on

Would be amazing precontest from what I’ve seen 

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53 minutes ago, Simon90 said:

mad how it has a stim like effect , wouldn’t have thought that! 
I’m guessing the toxicity is same regardless of it being inj or oral? 

 

androgens stimulate the CNS, this is part of the reason why sleeping becomes an issue on trenbolone 

it's not a caffeine like buzz I got from mtren but more 'ready to go' if that makes sense.

the injectable version would skip a pass of the liver so no it wouldn't be as hepatotoxic as its oral counterpart but it will still destroy your lipid profile and potentially raise blood pressure.

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Only ever used this for about 3/4 weeks when I somehow ended up with a bottle of Apollo Torrip. 

I had used many fast rip blends before, but this was my first which contained mtren. And wow, it was definitely a noticable addition. 

As Swole also experienced, within an hour or two I felt a strong stimulant like effect, stronger than any pre workout and with an added sense of drive and focus. Some of the best training sessions I ever had were while using the Torrip. Extra pump and extra endurance. 

However.. it made me sweat like crazy. Noticeably and uncomfortably. Also, if I had taken a shot and somehow was unable to train, I was in for a rough evening of anxiety, tension and a general strong feeling of unease. And even if I had trained, that sense of restlessness would last well into the night, so much so that it would affect me sleep. 

Overall, I would use again only if I had a competition that day. I couldn't see myself using it more than that. 

Potent drug 

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10 minutes ago, PsychedUp said:

Only ever used this for about 3/4 weeks when I somehow ended up with a bottle of Apollo Torrip. 

I had used many fast rip blends before, but this was my first which contained mtren. And wow, it was definitely a noticable addition. 

As Swole also experienced, within an hour or two I felt a strong stimulant like effect, stronger than any pre workout and with an added sense of drive and focus. Some of the best training sessions I ever had were while using the Torrip. Extra pump and extra endurance. 

However.. it made me sweat like crazy. Noticeably and uncomfortably. Also, if I had taken a shot and somehow was unable to train, I was in for a rough evening of anxiety, tension and a general strong feeling of unease. And even if I had trained, that sense of restlessness would last well into the night, so much so that it would affect me sleep. 

Overall, I would use again only if I had a competition that day. I couldn't see myself using it more than that. 

Potent drug 

Don’t think I’ve seen many labs do it...will keep an eye out as deffo wouldn’t mind experimenting with it at some point or another 

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My experience of it was that with no other anabolics involved, totally clean and a 750mcg shot, it was like a line of coke before a workout. Once other anabolics were involved, 750mcg got lost in the ether. I never dared push it past 1000mcg so I can only speculate as to what higher doses bring. In terms of risk to benefit ratio, I personally would say it's not great; you can achieve more playing the long game with other, less risky compounds. If short term aggression and focus is what you want then it seems to provide it, but at a cost that personally, is too high for me. 

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3 minutes ago, Simon90 said:

Don’t think I’ve seen many labs do it...will keep an eye out as deffo wouldn’t mind experimenting with it at some point or another 

Old-school Pro-Chem did it and that's what I used. I'm fairly sure Dimension do one.

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1 hour ago, DrRinse said:

Indeed they do!

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Ffs I’ll have to order one now won’t I ??

That dosage per ml seems very high compared to what you guys were mentioning above? Did you use oral or injectable? 

 

 

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22 minutes ago, Simon90 said:

Ffs I’ll have to order one now won’t I ??

That dosage per ml seems very high compared to what you guys were mentioning above? Did you use oral or injectable? 

 

 

From memory the old Pro-Chem stuff was 2000mcg/ml so 2500 is common now. It was an injectible. I drew up 0.38ml to give me 750mcg

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8 hours ago, JABDUL said:

@nWo what lab was it you run mate for the Methyl Tren?

Mine was TM mate, not about anymore.

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5 minutes ago, iron2000 said:

Is it similar to tren base?

It’s methylated tren so in one way it’s similar but that doesn’t really mean much considering superdrol is methylated mast and completely different..I’ve not used Mtren but it seems like it’s super tren (in effects and toxicity)

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Rotating between these 3 has allowed me to still push and have some serious sessions in my garden.

My strength is still there it’s just hard to get into “that” zone for things like 200kg squats when you go from laying in your front room to training in your garden by yourself.

Going to the gym and then the gyms atmosphere helped a lot more than I realised when it comes to big lifts, but yeah 1ml of either 90 mins pwo and I’ve had some good sessions 

orang is Tren bass just label came off when I say it in a mug of hot water :lol:

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12 hours ago, Simon90 said:

That dosage per ml seems very high compared to what you guys were mentioning above? Did you use oral or injectable? 

 

 

same dosage per ml I used with the dimensions stuff few years back 

had no issues outside of the fact I had mtren in my body

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50 minutes ago, swole troll said:

same dosage per ml I used with the dimensions stuff few years back 

had no issues outside of the fact I had mtren in my body

My dad used oral version before his comp...could see it in his eyes lol. 
Seems most places only do inj version now...Is it pippy? 

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