About to do my first shot

[Gaggi 11]

Hello,

OK. So, those SARMs must have really been something because my Test levels are in the toilet. 

The doctor immediately wrote me a script for Test C at 200mg/ml, needles & barrels, HCG, and Arimidex.

Insurance paid for everything, no problems.

Picking my Test up in an hour, and going to administer my first shot.

I have 20 gauge needles for pulling and 25 gauge needles for pushing.

Both are an inch long.

I plan on hitting my glute.

I know to hit the outside upper quadrant near the hip and away from the sciatic nerve.

My question is, though, how far should I push the needle in?

All the way?

Half way?

I'm a thinner guy, not much fat on me.

Though, my glutes are rather meaty (bubble butt).

How deep is too deep?

How shallow is too shallow?

How can I tell if I'm too deep or not deep enough?

Also, is it OK if some air gets pushed into the muscle, or should this be avoided?

Thanks.

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[Tonysco 954]

I use a 27g needle to pin, about an inch long. I press it in until the plastic of the needle makes contact with the skin.

[Sasnak 9448]

Your experience of exactly how far to push it in will be very different when you actually do it if you are pinning your glute. All the way is easier as holding it three quarters in is difficult. If you are pinning half a mil delt might be better if you’ve not jabbed before imo. Half way into the delt would be deep enough for a decent im jab

[drwae 2135]

2 minutes ago, Sasnak said:

Your experience of exactly how far to push it in will be very different when you actually do it if you are pinning your glute. All the way is easier as holding it three quarters in is difficult. If you are pinning half a mil delt might be better if you’ve not jabbed before imo. Half way into the delt would be deep enough for a decent im jab

Delt definitely, its piss easy and can take 3ml at least. 3 years and I've never used glutes.

[Gaggi 11]

8 minutes ago, Sasnak said:

If you are pinning half a mil delt might be better if you’ve not jabbed before imo. Half way into the delt would be deep enough for a decent im jab

I actually am pinning .5 ml twice a week.

I'll consider your advice.

Which head, though?

I'm assuming either anterior or lateral as posterior would be impractical. 

[drwae 2135]

1 minute ago, Gaggi said:

I actually am pinning .5 ml twice a week.

I'll consider your advice.

Which head, though?

I'm assuming either anterior or lateral as posterior would be impractical. 

Lateral, same place as where you get vaccines at the doctor

[Endomorph84 3088]

38 minutes ago, Gaggi said:

my glutes are rather meaty (bubble butt).

Mmmmmmmmmmmm. Iya x

[Gaggi 11]

Thanks, guys.

What about air?

Should I be concerned about injecting air into the muscle?

Also, how dangerous is it to push oil into a blood vessel, vein, etc?

Is it possible to destroy your heart that way?

[Tonysco 954]

55 minutes ago, Gaggi said:

Thanks, guys.

What about air?

Should I be concerned about injecting air into the muscle?

Also, how dangerous is it to push oil into a blood vessel, vein, etc?

Is it possible to destroy your heart that way?

Not unless its a significant amount of air,

Its actually a technique used by health professionals to keep a small amount of air in the syringe to ensure all of the dose goes into the patient.

Oil into a vein etc.. is a real issue that you need to avoid.

[drwae 2135]

5 minutes ago, Tonysco said:

Not unless its a significant amount of air,

Its actually a technique used by health professionals to keep a small amount of air in the syringe to ensure all of the dose goes into the patient.

Oil into a vein etc.. is a real issue that you need to avoid.

Air in the syringe is really useful for peptides and HGH when you're working with small volumes of liquid and no LDS syringe

You can feel immediately when you stop pushing water and start pushing air.. then you just stop

Never had an issue.

[Sasnak 9448]

1 hour ago, drwae said:

Lateral, same place as where you get vaccines at the doctor

This^.

You'd have to inject several cubic centimetres of air into a vein for it to pose a risk 

There is no risk of injecting the oil directly into a vein. The needle moves around too much and most veins are near the surface and you go below this.

There is also no need to aspirate the needle. Health professionals don’t.

[Gaggi 11]

4 minutes ago, Sasnak said:

There is also no need to aspirate the needle.

Wow. Really? Don't even bother pulling back on the plunger to check for blood? Are you sure? I've heard several people suggest aspirating. 

[Djibril 308]

2 hours ago, drwae said:

Delt definitely, its piss easy and can take 3ml at least. 3 years and I've never used glutes.

I love delts. Have done 2 ml no issues.. will try 3 on my next cycle.

Ive never done glutes either and would only use them if i wanted to inject more then 3ml.

Quads have been perfectly fine for me too

[drwae 2135]

38 minutes ago, Gaggi said:

Wow. Really? Don't even bother pulling back on the plunger to check for blood? Are you sure? I've heard several people suggest aspirating. 

I've never bothered

[fakenattymatty 155]

Push needle in all the way.

Little bit of air is not a problem.

No need to aspirate.

Any muscle is fine to inject, usually the easiest are delt, quad and chest.

[Gaggi 11]

4 hours ago, fakenattymatty said:

Any muscle is fine to inject, usually the easiest are delt, quad and chest.

Chest?? WTF?! Seriously?

[Gaggi 11]

OK.

First shot done.

Hit outer, upper right glute.

Needle went in painlessly.

Out of paranoia, I did aspirate; no blood whatsoever.

Pushed plunger and encountered resistance.

Plunger took a fair amount of force to depress.

Is this normal?

I pushed entire .5 ml.

Felt a cold rush run through me.

Has anyone else experienced this?

Or is this just in my mind?

My hands are shaking a bit right now.

 

[Sustanation 798]

9 hours ago, Gaggi said:

Hello,

OK. So, those SARMs must have really been something because my Test levels are in the toilet. 

The doctor immediately wrote me a script for Test C at 200mg/ml, needles & barrels, HCG, and Arimidex.

Insurance paid for everything, no problems.

Picking my Test up in an hour, and going to administer my first shot.

I have 20 gauge needles for pulling and 25 gauge needles for pushing.

Both are an inch long.

I plan on hitting my glute.

I know to hit the outside upper quadrant near the hip and away from the sciatic nerve.

My question is, though, how far should I push the needle in?

All the way?

Half way?

I'm a thinner guy, not much fat on me.

Though, my glutes are rather meaty (bubble butt).

How deep is too deep?

How shallow is too shallow?

How can I tell if I'm too deep or not deep enough?

Also, is it OK if some air gets pushed into the muscle, or should this be avoided?

Thanks.

With a 1" needle you want to be pushing the needle all the way in irregardless of bodyfat level or you risk the chance of it not being deep enough which may cause swelling. 

 

With regards to air you want to push out as much air as possible i need to stress that point as injecting air can kill you, couple of bubbles are fine as they are a good indicator of when you aspirate as they'll increase in size but when you've drawn your oil into the syringe you want to put a fresh needle on then push the oil out until a few drops spurt out the end. 

 

I'm surprised your Dr has left you to it to be fair. 

 

Let us know how you get on buddy and take your time. 

[Sustanation 798]

28 minutes ago, Gaggi said:

OK.

First shot done.

Hit outer, upper right glute.

Needle went in painlessly.

Out of paranoia, I did aspirate; no blood whatsoever.

Pushed plunger and encountered resistance.

Plunger took a fair amount of force to depress.

Is this normal?

I pushed entire .5 ml.

Felt a cold rush run through me.

Has anyone else experienced this?

Or is this just in my mind?

My hands are shaking a bit right now.

 

If you didnt experience a uncontrollable cough immediately after injection then your fine buddy, probably a bit of anxiety coupled with an amateur first time injection technique. 

[Sasnak 9448]

11 hours ago, Gaggi said:

Wow. Really? Don't even bother pulling back on the plunger to check for blood? Are you sure? I've heard several people suggest aspirating. 

I’m quite sure. Medical professionals don’t. Why would anyone else? When it comes to anabolic steroid users the whole aspiration thing is something that’s still banded around the internet for reasons that I do not know why.

Doctors and other medical professionals still have to know how to aspirate in case they are faced with unusual circumstances. In addition, aspiration can be necessary in the case of intravenous injections which are obviously totally different to im and sub-q

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5333604/

[drwae 2135]

5 hours ago, Gaggi said:

OK.

First shot done.

Hit outer, upper right glute.

Needle went in painlessly.

Out of paranoia, I did aspirate; no blood whatsoever.

Pushed plunger and encountered resistance.

Plunger took a fair amount of force to depress.

Is this normal?

I pushed entire .5 ml.

Felt a cold rush run through me.

Has anyone else experienced this?

Or is this just in my mind?

My hands are shaking a bit right now.

 

Yes, the force is normal especially with 25G needles. With 23G needles it's easier to push it through. The cold rushing through you is just mental.

[Sasnak 9448]

4 hours ago, Sustanation said:

With regards to air you want to push out as much air as possible i need to stress that point as injecting air can kill you

No it can’t, unless you contrived to inject several cubic centimetres of air. 

4 hours ago, Sustanation said:

push the oil out until a few drops spurt out the end

You must have seen this in a film. It isn’t something that happens in medicine. All of what is being injected should arrive at it’s intended site, whether that be in the muscle or subcutaneous tissue. 

The only thing that allowing oil to run down the needle will achieve is increasing the risk of pip and infection. This is something else that’s banded around the Internet with people often claiming that oil running down the needle helps lubricate it and makes the injection easier. This isn’t true. Needles are coated with silicon which makes them easier to insert.

[Spieren 800]

6 hours ago, Gaggi said:

OK.

First shot done.

Hit outer, upper right glute.

Needle went in painlessly.

Out of paranoia, I did aspirate; no blood whatsoever.

Pushed plunger and encountered resistance.

Plunger took a fair amount of force to depress.

Is this normal?

I pushed entire .5 ml.

Felt a cold rush run through me.

Has anyone else experienced this?

Or is this just in my mind?

My hands are shaking a bit right now.

 

I still aspirate mate, even though I know it’s completely pointless. 

Was there no guidance from your GP on your first jab.? I’m surprised a nurse didn’t show you. 

[Sasnak 9448]

4 minutes ago, Spieren said:

I still aspirate mate, even though I know it’s completely pointless

The only time I ever did it is if I pin my pec. It’s easy to do in this area because you can use both hands to steady the needle. Did it just out of curiosity 

[Sasnak 9448]

17 minutes ago, Spieren said:

Was there no guidance from your GP

Either a private internet based company or op doesn’t live in the U.K. looking at his posts I suspect the latter