Lovelyjubly 122 Posted April 16, 2020 Can we really survive ourselves? Now that a huge recessions on its way... are we really going to get nice little deals with USA, China etc..? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fletch68 116 Posted April 16, 2020 Yes we can and we will. 6 jjtreml, SwoleTip, simonboyle and 3 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lovelyjubly 122 Posted April 16, 2020 19 minutes ago, Fletch68 said: Yes we can and we will. Where would we get masks from ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jake87 2208 Posted April 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Lovelyjubly said: Where would we get masks from ? Ebay 4 Lovelyjubly, Shergar, SG83 and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spod 625 Posted April 16, 2020 It's more important than ever not to waste hundreds of millions of ponds annually on membership fees to a failing political union that prevents us from trading freely with the rest of the world IMHO. 8 1 USERNAME, cypssk, SG83 and 6 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sasnak 9480 Posted April 16, 2020 As an ardent re-moaner I was concerned about the hit leaving the euro zone would have on the U.K. economy. I cannot even remember what the general worst case scenario was but it was maybe about a 7% contraction. U.K. economy has just shrunk 35% in 3 weeks and it isn’t just going to bounce back. Brexit is the least of our worries now. 2 alphafit and jjtreml reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sasnak 9480 Posted April 16, 2020 57 minutes ago, spod said: I’ve never agreed with you as you are aware spod but you along with selected others are amongst the few who have ever put valid arguments for leaving forward iirc. I sincerely hope you are right 1 spod reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simonboyle 2323 Posted April 16, 2020 What makes you think, given the f#cking mess most of the EU is in, that they'd be more help than we would? 1 MrBrightside reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simonboyle 2323 Posted April 16, 2020 30 minutes ago, Sasnak said: As an ardent re-moaner I was concerned about the hit leaving the euro zone would have on the U.K. economy. I cannot even remember what the general worst case scenario was but it was maybe about a 7% contraction. U.K. economy has just shrunk 35% in 3 weeks and it isn’t just going to bounce back. Brexit is the least of our worries now. It's the same everywhere though. Not like the UK is in that situation alone. 2 BLUE(UK) and Sasnak reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLUE(UK) 13129 Posted April 16, 2020 29 minutes ago, Sasnak said: As an ardent re-moaner I was concerned about the hit leaving the euro zone would have on the U.K. economy. I cannot even remember what the general worst case scenario was but it was maybe about a 7% contraction. U.K. economy has just shrunk 35% in 3 weeks and it isn’t just going to bounce back. Brexit is the least of our worries now. Aren’t the rest of the EU economies shrinking too? Imagine us trying to prop up Italy and Spain as well as a shrunken economy. 4 D 4 Damage, hmgs, spod and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sasnak 9480 Posted April 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, simonboyle said: It's the same everywhere though. 3 minutes ago, BLUE(UK) said: Aren’t the rest of the EU economies shrinking too? True. That wasn’t my point though. My point was brexit wrong or right is the least of our problems. 2 Frandeman and BLUE(UK) reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simonboyle 2323 Posted April 16, 2020 14 minutes ago, Sasnak said: True. That wasn’t my point though. My point was brexit wrong or right is the least of our problems. Yup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SG83 126 Posted April 17, 2020 survive? yes, yes we can. thrive? no, not for a long time. Even withouth the virus our economy would take a massive hit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jackoffblades 873 Posted April 17, 2020 21 hours ago, simonboyle said: It's the same everywhere though. Not like the UK is in that situation alone. That’s what I’m thinking it evens out it doesn’t mean we are going to be a poor economy in comparison. I think America will have a harder hit than us Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simonboyle 2323 Posted April 20, 2020 On 17/04/2020 at 7:43 PM, Jackoffblades said: That’s what I’m thinking it evens out it doesn’t mean we are going to be a poor economy in comparison. I think America will have a harder hit than us Guessing is a bit pointless. We've never had this situation before. Not this way, not in this market, not in the way the world is now (international trade the way it it, technology etc) Need to see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malin 227 Posted April 20, 2020 On 16/04/2020 at 9:33 PM, Sasnak said: I’ve never agreed with you as you are aware spod but you along with selected others are amongst the few who have ever put valid arguments for leaving forward iirc. I sincerely hope you are right Well that horse has bolted already, estimated cost of brexit to the UK economy even before covid 19 was £130bn, which is more than half of the UK’s net contribution to the EU between 1973 and 2018, so another thick leavers' argument falls flat 3 Lovelyjubly, Sasnak and neverminder reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrwright 3275 Posted April 21, 2020 We need to get away from America nevermind Europe 1 Lovelyjubly reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USERNAME 20 Posted April 21, 2020 On 4/16/2020 at 8:31 PM, Lovelyjubly said: Where would we get masks from ? I have lost count of the amount of business owners who have rang LBC saying they can get tones of PPE, have offered it to the Government, but have been ignroed. Don't believe everything the mainstream media feed you 2 spod and MrBrightside reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Test-e 1810 Posted April 21, 2020 49 minutes ago, USERNAME said: I have lost count of the amount of business owners who have rang LBC saying they can get tones of PPE, have offered it to the Government, but have been ignroed. Don't believe everything the mainstream media feed you Okay there Captain Spock! Don't trust reputable news websites, instead trust a random guy off the internet. With that in mind, the UK economy will soar to new heights following the covid virus, and the cost of Brexit, as Britain finds a $1000 trillion oil field buried beneath the centre of Bradford. You heard it here first folks. Bradford is the new Abu Dhabi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spod 625 Posted April 21, 2020 6 hours ago, Test-e said: Okay there Captain Spock! Don't trust reputable news websites, instead trust a random guy off the internet. Is the BBC reputable enough for you?? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-52358036 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alphafit 300 Posted April 21, 2020 Did Trump not tell the UK to basically sod off a while back....hmm. Yup. Stil a remainer here. I doubt the conservatives will ever be forgiven nor forgotten for the hit the economy is going to take by both Brexit and COVID. Also voting Labour was apperantly the right choice, a properly funded NHS would have been good to have right about now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lovelyjubly 122 Posted April 22, 2020 So let's get this right.... 2 schools of thought... 1) conservatives have underfunded the NHS so badly over the last 10 odd years.lt has made the situation worse and made us one of the worse countries in the world in terms of mortality rates from Covid 2) there is enough PPEs in the UK according to the random guy on the internet and the link posted above. But the Conservatives are refusing to take them anf rather the NHS staff re-use PPEs and endanger their lives. Either way the Conservatives will not and should not be forgiven Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simonboyle 2323 Posted April 22, 2020 On 20/04/2020 at 6:35 PM, Malin said: Well that horse has bolted already, estimated cost of brexit to the UK economy even before covid 19 was £130bn, which is more than half of the UK’s net contribution to the EU between 1973 and 2018, so another thick leavers' argument falls flat Still people like you name calling because people gave different opinions. Go live in a dictatorship Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malin 227 Posted April 22, 2020 23 minutes ago, simonboyle said: Still people like you name calling because people gave different opinions. Go live in a dictatorship lol, people thinking their opinions are worth as much as the educated, researched and clinically tested conclusions of people smarter than them is an absolute cancer of our time. "It's just a matter of opinion" - no it isn't. Facts and opinions aren't the same thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Denied 1368 Posted April 22, 2020 19 hours ago, alphafit said: Did Trump not tell the UK to basically sod off a while back....hmm. Yup. Stil a remainer here. I doubt the conservatives will ever be forgiven nor forgotten for the hit the economy is going to take by both Brexit and COVID. Also voting Labour was apperantly the right choice, a properly funded NHS would have been good to have right about now. No Labour just give everyone massive pay increases and waste money. That doesn't make the NHS any more prepared than it already was. They'd also have spent an extra 1/2 trillion before covid 19 can you imagine how much debt we'd be in by now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites