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3 hours ago, Kazza61 said:

Creatine is from food too. Many other supplements are such as the amino acids are also from food.

I've seen a couple of articles about amino acids being made from hair  . Was pretty gross. 

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1 hour ago, JohnnySack said:

Soz but gotta agree with @Robbie on this one. I think we've all jumped to the conclusion they said 40g on the bar and inside was 10g but that ain't necessarily the case.

You could have 10g inside and it says 10g on the bar but if you then say "protein contributes to the growth of muscle mass" and the amount is not of any physiological significance it could be deemed in breach of advertising standards.

The other claim was stating an item was a "source of protein" whereas the actual source of the protein was some other foodstuff earlier in the chain.

I sense there's been some beef between the council and this company for a while and they've been waiting to get them for something. Which itself may mean something but we're not sure what.

Exactly that.  I've asked essex trading standards for more information.

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"Tests of products including High Protein Snack Bars, Pure Whey Protein, Smooth Roasted Hazelnut Butter, and Maca Powder revealed 55 breaches of labelling legislation".  A £100k suggests these were pretty serious breaches. 

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From Essex Trading Standards:

05 February 2020
PR 6899
£100K fine for Colchester business found guilty after Essex Trading Standards investigation
A Colchester business specialising in food supplements and sports nutrition products has today (Wednesday 5 February) been found guilty of using non-permitted, unauthorised and unjustified health and nutrition claims as a result of an Essex Trading Standards Investigation.
Sport Supplements Limited t/a Bulk Powders was sentenced at Colchester Magistrates Court to a £100,000 fine as well as £7,148.30 costs.
The conviction comes following an Essex Trading Standards investigation during 2019 and the sentencing is in relation to 30 charges.
Magistrates considered an assessment of culpability and harm, and after the business failed to act on advice and guidance from officers on seven separate occasions following a series of complaints, found culpability for the offences was high.
They noted further, that there was potential for consumers to be misled into paying more for products than they would for similar foods available to buy on the High Street
A selection of food products available from the business were formally sampled and submitted to the public analyst for consideration. Of the products sampled, a total of 55 breaches of labelling legislation were reported. The majority of these breaches focused on claims made about the nutritional and health benefits of the food products.
Essex Trading Standards brought the prosecution under the Nutrition and Health Claims (England) Regulations 2007.
Cllr Susan Barker, Cabinet Member for Customer, Corporate, Culture and Communities said; “Today’s sentencing sends a clear message to businesses that mis-leading consumers will not be tolerated and that they have a duty to protect the people who buy their products.
“Essex Trading Standards has an ongoing commitment to support residents who should feel confident that they can rely on the information provided in the form of food labels and commercial websites.”
ENDS
Further information:
  • Sports Supplements Ltd has been trading for 13 years and now employs around 150 staff at their premises in Colchester with a new office recently opened in London.
  • They have around 300 products in the range and these are primarily sold directly to consumers via the Bulk Powders website. www.bulkpowders.co.uk
  • Example The level of protein in some of the products was found to be insufficient to make the health claim “protein contributes to the growth of muscle mass” or the nutrition claim “source of protein” that would be quite significant, particularly amongst the “fitness” community who see these types of claims as particularly important when buying a product.
  • Ensuring that consumers are not being misled by non-permitted, false or unauthorised claims about the food that they are choosing to buy is an important aspect of consumer protection.
  • Essex Trading Standards continues to strive to give consumers the confidence that they can rely on permitted and accurate information on food products.
For Essex County Council media enquiries:
Press Office at [email protected]
Out of Hours: 07717 867525
Keep in touch at www.essex.gov.uk, Facebook, Twitter

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10 minutes ago, Kazza61 said:

"Tests of products including High Protein Snack Bars, Pure Whey Protein, Smooth Roasted Hazelnut Butter, and Maca Powder revealed 55 breaches of labelling legislation".  A £100k suggests these were pretty serious breaches. 

Perhaps they should have acted on the previous advice and guidance when given? 
That’s kind how it reads.  

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1 minute ago, BLUE(UK) said:

Perhaps they should have acted on the previous advice and guidance when given? 
That’s kind how it reads.  

Exactly. If I'm warned not to do something 7 times, I'd probably stop before the 8th time. 

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Good to read the actual report @Kazza61 so thanks for posting but even after reading it seems very small fry indeed. Nothing suggests any sort of significant breach of trading regulations. In fact it seems the company just thought "go on then take us to court on such small matters of semantics" and the council finally said "OK then we will".

I'm not bigging up the company in any way - all that s**t is a waste of money in my opinion. I'll take an actual meal over any "supplements" thanks. And if I do crave a shake for some reason then whole milk / banana / peanut butter / oats and maybe some totally plain whey protein from Holland and Barrett all blended up is more than sufficient and a lot cheaper.

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22 hours ago, JohnnySack said:

Good to read the actual report @Kazza61 so thanks for posting but even after reading it seems very small fry indeed. Nothing suggests any sort of significant breach of trading regulations. In fact it seems the company just thought "go on then take us to court on such small matters of semantics" and the council finally said "OK then we will".

I'm not bigging up the company in any way - all that s**t is a waste of money in my opinion. I'll take an actual meal over any "supplements" thanks. And if I do crave a shake for some reason then whole milk / banana / peanut butter / oats and maybe some totally plain whey protein from Holland and Barrett all blended up is more than sufficient and a lot cheaper.

You interpret it very differently to me but each to their own. In my view a firm that ignores 7 formal warnings and then gets fined £100k plus costs wasn't doing nothing. 

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15 minutes ago, Kazza61 said:

You interpret it very differently to me but each to their own. In my view a firm that ignores and 7 formal warnings and then gets fined £100k plus costs wasn't doing nothing. 

They ignored the warnings as they probably knew all they'd get is slap on the wrist - quick look on their accounts and their turnover in FY 2017 was £32m, so £100k is drop in an ocean.

And the whole story is hardly front page news so very little percentage of their current or potential customers will ever find out about this.

Funny how everyone is  demonising protein supplements out of the sudden - newsflash whey is food - it's literally dried up milk, not some synthetic powder created in a laboratory, sure you may prefer meat but I somehow doubt of this chicken from Singapore and South America that's exported into the UK is premium quality either.

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17 minutes ago, Malin said:

  - newsflash whey is food - it's literally dried up milk, not some synthetic powder created in a laboratory, 

I doubt there is a single person on here who didn't already know the first bit. But I bet there are quite a few who don't know about protein powder spiking. Where synthetic additives are used to spike results of composition tests so cheap fillers can be used rather than pure whey for example. Google it. 

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15 hours ago, Malin said:

I somehow doubt of this chicken from Singapore and South America that's exported into the UK is premium quality either.

Stop trying to act smart, your not.

The vast majority, nearly all of the chicken consumed in the UK is from the UK. Of the small portion that is from abroad the vast majority is from Holland. Nobody is flying dead chickens from Singapore to the UK to sell.

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8 hours ago, lewdylewd said:

Stop trying to act smart, your not.

The vast majority, nearly all of the chicken consumed in the UK is from the UK. Of the small portion that is from abroad the vast majority is from Holland. Nobody is flying dead chickens from Singapore to the UK to sell.

:lol:

And so much for "nearly all of the chicken consumed in the UK is from the UK." :rolleyes:

 

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Poultry is the most consumed meat in the country, and the bulk of that is chicken. The UK produces about 60% of the chicken it consumes

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46347138

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Bird I use to be good friends with dated the owner of bulk powders. She would often tatse test formulas and flavours he would create in house. Apparently he put alot of work into it. This was around 4-5 years ago though 

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Being Done for wording on labels and underdosing products seems worlds apart to me. Very easy to get f**ked for certain wording on products loads of companies have had to change labels etc. 

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2 minutes ago, Kazza61 said:

It’s interesting to see just how many are jumping to defend a company that has just been fined £100k plus costs. I don’t think Bulk Powders is really a victim here.

Not saying they’re a victim at all but to claim they’ve underdosed their stuff seems a little unfair without proof or any tests. I don’t even use them it’s just seeing everyone jump to conclusions and claiming to have known all along that these kind of companies are bad just makes ya laugh. Supplement companies get told all the time they aren’t allowed to use certain words and phrases. They’re idiots for continuing to do so if they’ve been warned so many times 

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On 9.02.2020 г. at 9:50 PM, Malin said:

I somehow doubt of this chicken from Singapore and South America that's exported into the UK is premium quality either.

Pretty much this. 

Also why would you buy cheap chit brands like myprotein or bulkpowders? Just go ahead do yourself a favour and buy some optimum nutrition isolate or  gold standard.

Everything cheap is chit. It's like comparing  Mercedes for 120k with a KIA for 30k.

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8 hours ago, Cronus said:

Bird I use to be good friends with dated the owner of bulk powders. She would often tatse test formulas and flavours he would create in house. Apparently he put alot of work into it. This was around 4-5 years ago though 

bird = cronus

house = dungeon

formulas & flavours = spunk

decoded 

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