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I've decided to finish my second cycle early after 10 weeks (was originally planning 16 weeks) as I've herniated a disc, lifting an engine without even thinking about it properly at work.  So pissed off right now but I'm trying to salvage something from the whole thing.

I was on test-e, last pin was 23rd January so I'm starting a 4 week nolva PCT this Thursday 6th February.

I'm going to track things with blood tests much more closely this time.  In an ideal world, what would you have tested, and when, during this whole PCT/recovery period before next cycle in what's hopefully going to be around 5 months?

The idea is to find out as much as I can about how I respond so I can make an informed decision on PCT vs blast and cruise for the future.

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In an ideal world you’d wait at least three or four weeks (dose of test dependant) before starting pct and run bloods pre and post pct. to keep price reasonable I’d probably look to test LH FSH and Test levels pre pct then a full blood panel around a month afterwards. It’s unlikely but not unheard of to be recovering without any meds hence testing pre pct to decide if you actually need one 

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1 hour ago, Mike1011 said:

In an ideal world you’d wait at least three or four weeks (dose of test dependant) before starting pct and run bloods pre and post pct. to keep price reasonable I’d probably look to test LH FSH and Test levels pre pct then a full blood panel around a month afterwards. It’s unlikely but not unheard of to be recovering without any meds hence testing pre pct to decide if you actually need one 

How will I know if I'm recovering without any meds?  If I do bloods 4 weeks after cycle and I have some test in my system does that mean I'm recovering without PCT?  Will PCT mean I recover more quickly even if it looks like I'm recovering naturally?

Also, if I wait 4 weeks then do a PCT do I need to add the extra 2 weeks onto my time on =  time off calcs?

Sorry for so many questions.

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30 minutes ago, halfbar said:

If I do bloods 4 weeks after cycle and I have some test in my system does that mean I'm recovering without PCT?  Will PCT mean I recover more quickly

You won’t recover until all drugs (including pct drugs) are out of your system.

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23 minutes ago, Sasnak said:

You won’t recover until all drugs (including pct drugs) are out of your system.

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1 hour ago, Dannylets said:

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1 hour ago, Dannylets said:

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2 hours ago, Sasnak said:

You won’t recover until all drugs (including pct drugs) are out of your system.

Seen a couple cases of people’s Test fsh and Lh levels reasonable after a month or so with no pct meds, not saying that’s the case for a lot of people but if your bloods shown everything in a good place before starting pct meds then pct would be pointless in my opinion 

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3 hours ago, halfbar said:

How will I know if I'm recovering without any meds?  If I do bloods 4 weeks after cycle and I have some test in my system does that mean I'm recovering without PCT?  Will PCT mean I recover more quickly even if it looks like I'm recovering naturally?

Also, if I wait 4 weeks then do a PCT do I need to add the extra 2 weeks onto my time on =  time off calcs?

Sorry for so many questions.

I’ve never ran PCT in my life as I refuse to pump unnecessary anti cancer drugs into my body and have had bloods post cycle to confirm recovery. Albeit I’ve used prov and cailis post cycle 

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25 minutes ago, Sasnak said:

I’m not convinced it is of any benefit but I’ve never taken a pct drug. 

Done with and without; found the PCT drugs fire you up a lot quicker than going oh natural.

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10 minutes ago, TERBO said:

Done with and without; found the PCT drugs fire you up a lot quicker than going oh natural.

Agreed,

If your not running hcg during then clomid etc.. help.

Proviron also seems to help me a bit.

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So you’ve ran no hcg on cycle and want to start a Nolvadex only pct 2 weeks after test e? Too early on any dose of test e, but if was 500mg weekly then you’re looking more like 5-6, maybe even 7 weeks before your levels will be dropping to low natural levels

re-think time.... list exactly what you’ve done including doses please

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1 hour ago, CarrotTop said:

So you’ve ran no hcg on cycle and want to start a Nolvadex only pct 2 weeks after test e? Too early on any dose of test e, but if was 500mg weekly then you’re looking more like 5-6, maybe even 7 weeks before your levels will be dropping to low natural levels

re-think time.... list exactly what you’ve done including doses please

Well s**t.

I thought I had a handle on this.

I've done test-e for 10 weeks, first 5 weeks at 500mg, second 5 weeks at 600mg.

I've purposely avoided clomid because I read a few bits on liver affects (have had liver issues in the past) so I wanted to avoid it.  Likewise I don't touch oral steroids.

HCG I wasn't too bothered about - my family duties are done and dusted and I'm not fussed about the size of my nuts, plus it's hard for me to mix up some weird s**t and have it hanging around in the fridge without some difficult questions from teenagers.  

I swear I read multiple times that two weeks after the last shot was the time to start?

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14 hours ago, halfbar said:

 

I swear I read multiple times that two weeks after the last shot was the time to start?

Me too but it's parroted, and has always been wrong.

2wks is far to early to start PCT,  if you consider the MRT (mean residence time) for just a single 250mg shot of test enan is 12-14 days it is logical that 10wks at 500mg  for example, will not be out of your system in 2wks, and as we all know, taking PCT meds while you still have exogenous test in your system is pointless.

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38 minutes ago, stargazer said:

Me too but it's parroted, and has always been wrong.

2wks is far to early to start PCT,  if you consider the MRT (mean residence time) for just a single 250mg shot of test enan is 12-14 days it is logical that 10wks at 500mg  for example, will not be out of your system in 2wks, and as we all know, taking PCT meds while you still have exogenous test in your system is pointless.

That makes sense.

What starts to not make sense though is cycling at all.  If you do a 10 week cycle, wait 7 weeks to start PCT then follow Swole's 7 week protocol that's 24 weeks on for a short cycle.  Time on = time off leaves you with one short cycle a year.

Is anyone, anywhere actually doing this?

Thinking about blast and cruise, I keep reading 10 weeks on, 10 weeks off.  If it's still sat in your system for 7 weeks you're almost never actually cruising then?

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