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Who are you voting for in the election tomorrow?

Who are you voting for in the election tomorrow?  

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  1. 1. Who are you voting for in the election tomorrow?

    • Labour
    • Conservatives
    • Liberal Democrats
    • Other party
    • Not voting, they're all as bad as each other.

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  • Poll closed on 12/12/19 at 11:33 AM

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45 minutes ago, Fattynomore said:

What exactly did Labour do for the working class when they got in? Nothing but almost bankrupt the country therefore allowing the torys back in. 

It's worth mentioning that New Labour were far more centrist than what current Labour are.

First & foremost they introduced the national minimum wage in 1999. The welfare state was fair greater than the threadbare system we find ourselves in today. The Human Rights Act was also introduced, there were large investments made in education; building more schools and refurbishing old ones, while having more teachers, and The NHS - had shorter waiting times,

The country was bankrupted because of the financial crisis - a crisis that actually bankrupted many nations. It was not a labour government. 

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13 minutes ago, Abc987 said:

17.6% Of you want that fu**ing idiot Corbyn running this country lol. You need shooting 
 

Corbyn wouldn't be running the country, labour would be. We don't live in a presidential democracy - there's a very clear distinction. 

Someone's been watching too much fox news :whistling:

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I've always voted conservative, but it'll be lib dem for me this time.

I wish I could believe Corbyns dream, but as far as I can tell, that's all it is and some of it is laughable. Tories have always been the most sensible to me, even though some of their policies are harsh medicine. But they are also responsible for Brexit which I'm struggling to forgive them for.

But, I'm currently homeless and still haven't received my voting card even though I registered weeks ago... :(

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1 hour ago, Test-e said:

It's worth mentioning that New Labour were far more centrist than what current Labour are.

First & foremost they introduced the national minimum wage in 1999. The welfare state was fair greater than the threadbare system we find ourselves in today. The Human Rights Act was also introduced, there were large investments made in education; building more schools and refurbishing old ones, while having more teachers, and The NHS - had shorter waiting times,

The country was bankrupted because of the financial crisis - a crisis that actually bankrupted many nations. It was not a labour government. 

The welfare state is a joke, it should never be more viable to receive handouts than work for a living. The country was bankrupted due to simple economics, don't spend what you don't have, they banked on the boom continuing, it didn't.  Labour want  to borrow more to keep building, nothing been learned from the last time. I'm Scottish by the way so the torys don't exactly sit well with me but compared to the rest including snp they are best of a bad bunch

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13 minutes ago, ILLBehaviour said:

 

Venezuela - Imgflip

 

Yeah if Labour voters are considered to be commies,  conservatives( if they could really be called that cuz this lot are a bunch of sociopaths that like fridges) are no better far right Nazis.

If you want become a US vassal state, vote tory you will have your own Trump muppet, and eat chlorine chicken.

And for all you Great Britan comeback people I'm going to give you a fine example, how good you are without the EU.

UK captured the Iran oil tanker, then Iran captured 3 of ours and what did the UK do? Nothing!

Did Trump help you? No! He said leave EU and I MIGHT help.

Did EU help? Nope. They said you are leaving right? Fix it on your own.  They simply showed us that together we are stronger!

And what the UK do? Nothing.

Conclusion: With the EU you have a say in a organization that which we help start from the ashes of wars that ravaged the contient. The EU has done nothing but achive peace and prosperity.

With Trump you have no say!

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9 minutes ago, alphafit said:

Yeah if Labour voters are considered to be commies,  conservatives( if they could really be called that cuz this lot are a bunch of sociopaths that like fridges) are no better far right Nazis.

If you want become a US vassal state, vote tory you will have your own Trump muppet, and eat chlorine chicken.

And for all you Great Britan comeback people I'm going to give you a fine example, how good you are without the EU.

UK captured the Iran oil tanker, then Iran captured 3 of ours and what did the UK do? Nothing!

Did Trump help you? No! He said leave EU and I MIGHT help.

Did EU help? Nope. They said you are leaving right? Fix it on your own.  They simply showed us that together we are stronger!

And what the UK do? Nothing.

Conclusion: With the EU you have a say in a organization that which we help start from the ashes of wars that ravaged the contient. The EU has done nothing but achive peace and prosperity.

With Trump you have no say!

I don't think not leaving the EU would have meant assistance from them in the situation you described, besides what EU assistance is available? I thought the EU army was a far right myth?  The UK government didn't do anything because they haven't got a backbone and have no appetite to start WW3.

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22 minutes ago, alphafit said:

Yeah if Labour voters are considered to be commies,  conservatives( if they could really be called that cuz this lot are a bunch of sociopaths that like fridges) are no better far right Nazis.

If you want become a US vassal state, vote tory you will have your own Trump muppet, and eat chlorine chicken.

And for all you Great Britan comeback people I'm going to give you a fine example, how good you are without the EU.

UK captured the Iran oil tanker, then Iran captured 3 of ours and what did the UK do? Nothing!

Did Trump help you? No! He said leave EU and I MIGHT help.

Did EU help? Nope. They said you are leaving right? Fix it on your own.  They simply showed us that together we are stronger!

And what the UK do? Nothing.

Conclusion: With the EU you have a say in a organization that which we help start from the ashes of wars that ravaged the contient. The EU has done nothing but achive peace and prosperity.

With Trump you have no say!

 

i guessing you meant to say labour, seeing as they have been the only other party in history besides the bnp to be investigated for racism & anti-semitism by the equality and human rights commission.

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16 minutes ago, ILLBehaviour said:

 

i guessing you meant to say labour, seeing as they have been the only other party in history besides the bnp to be investigated for racism & anti-semitism by the equality and human rights commission.

Boris Johnson compared Muslim woman to letterboxes. Just saying. (Btw I'm Christian and I find that type of discrimination offensive). Also communists in general never discriminated towards skin colour. And every one who points out Venezula, check out China they are socialists and are the 2nd biggest economy.

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17 hours ago, dmsknk said:

You think national debt will go down under Corbyn?

Noone can say for sure but the data quite obviously supports labour being better at managing the national debt over the last 20 years. Bear in mind we've had criminal levels of austerity for almost a decade now- what do we have to show for it?! 10 years of austerity and the national debt doubled and public services crumbling. It's quite plainly not working and I suspect a lot of the wealth has gone to the magic money tree in the cayman islands.

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19 minutes ago, ILLBehaviour said:

 

i guessing you meant to say labour, seeing as they have been the only other party in history besides the bnp to be investigated for racism & anti-semitism by the equality and human rights commission.

Funny that boris has been directly quoted being racist, islamophobic, homophobic and sexist as well as class bigotry (working class men described as drunk & feckless,  children of single mothers as angry and ill tempered) and yet no fuss is made of it. I refer you to the recent LBU study on press bias

https://www.lboro.ac.uk/news-events/general-election/report-1/#section-5

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4 hours ago, Fattynomore said:

What exactly did Labour do for the working class when they got in? Nothing but almost bankrupt the country therefore allowing the torys back in. 

I hope you realise the national debt has more than doubled (and still increasing) since the tories got in 10 years ago? Their policies quite obviously don't work to 1. run the countrys services well for the working man or 2. allow the working man a reasonable standard of living (check child poverty rates increasing under the tories). What their policies do allow is for the rich to get richer and siphon a lot of money out of the UK economy.

You have labour to thank for the following:

The NHS

Child benefit

Built the welfare state

Equalised right of wives to own property

Introduced free secondary education as a right

Helped create the UN

Granted independence to india

Brought public services into public ownership

Nationalised the (bankrupt) private railways

Achieved full employment at the time (1950s and early 60s)

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5 minutes ago, alphafit said:

Boris Johnson compared Muslim woman to letterboxes. Just saying. (Btw I'm Christian and I find that type of discrimination offensive). Also communists in general never discriminated towards skin colour. And every one who points out Venezula, check out China they are socialists and are the 2nd biggest economy.

 

lol, where they put muslims in concentration camps

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10 minutes ago, ILLBehaviour said:

 

lol, where they put muslims in concentration camps

Rubbish. Six of the 15 soviet republics had a Muslim majority., and people were never forced into concetration camps for religious practices. Yes, there were countries like Bulgaria that forced muslims to change their names, if not they were send to prison, but not to concentration camps. Once they converted to the idea of communism and accepted it, they were placed back in the community.

Check out Pomak(Помаци) in wiki.

The camps you are talking about are known as re-education camps, which were made to combat terrorism. I'm not saying it's right, but it's nothing like a concetration camp. All muslim citizens enjoy full rights in China.

 

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7 minutes ago, alphafit said:

Rubbish. Six of the 15 soviet republics had a Muslim majority., and people were never forced into concetration camps for religious practices. Yes, there were countries like Bulgaria that forced muslims to change their names, if not they were send to prison, but not to concentration camps. Once they converted to the idea of communism and accepted it, they were placed back in the community.

Check out Pomak(Помаци) in wiki.

The camps you are talking about are known as re-education camps, which were made to combat terrorism. I'm not saying it's right, but it's nothing like a concetration camp. All muslim citizens enjoy full rights in China.

 

 

maybe you should move to china and see how many rights YOU enjoy.

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19 minutes ago, alphafit said:

Rubbish. Six of the 15 soviet republics had a Muslim majority., and people were never forced into concetration camps for religious practices. Yes, there were countries like Bulgaria that forced muslims to change their names, if not they were send to prison, but not to concentration camps. Once they converted to the idea of communism and accepted it, they were placed back in the community.

Check out Pomak(Помаци) in wiki.

The camps you are talking about are known as re-education camps, which were made to combat terrorism. I'm not saying it's right, but it's nothing like a concetration camp. All muslim citizens enjoy full rights in China.

 

What makes me laugh is people claiming a Corbyn govt would be communist or even Marxist.  The defining feature of Marxism is that all wealth and product is entirely controlled by the state. Corbyns programme is nothing of the sort: it is a mild social democratic programme which wouldn't have raised any eyebrows 30 years ago in Europe. Sweden is a good example of a country which has used similar policies and I don't see any major issues there- infact they have a better quality of life than most countries on the continent. The truth is peoples political vision has moved so far to the right over the last 10-15 years that communism and Marxism are completely off the scale now and used as fear words without any justification.

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31 minutes ago, charlysays said:

I hope you realise the national debt has more than doubled (and still increasing) since the tories got in 10 years ago? Their policies quite obviously don't work to 1. run the countrys services well for the working man or 2. allow the working man a reasonable standard of living (check child poverty rates increasing under the tories). What their policies do allow is for the rich to get richer and siphon a lot of money out of the UK economy.

You have labour to thank for the following:

The NHS

Child benefit

Built the welfare state

Equalised right of wives to own property

Introduced free secondary education as a right

Helped create the UN

Granted independence to india

Brought public services into public ownership

Nationalised the (bankrupt) private railways

Achieved full employment at the time (1950s and early 60s)

National debt was only ever going to up, there is no chance of ever paying  that back. 

NHS, child benefits and welfare state and the way the system is run it was never going to sustainable. 

Regardless who's in it will the same old

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7 minutes ago, charlysays said:

What makes me laugh is people claiming a Corbyn govt would be communist or even Marxist.  The defining feature of Marxism is that all wealth and product is entirely controlled by the state. Corbyns programme is nothing of the sort: it is a mild social democratic programme which wouldn't have raised any eyebrows 30 years ago in Europe. Sweden is a good example of a country which has used similar policies and I don't see any major issues there- infact they have a better quality of life than most countries on the continent. The truth is peoples political vision has moved so far to the right over the last 10-15 years that communism and Marxism are completely off the scale now and used as fear words without any justification.

It shows how under educated some people are when comparing socialism to commuism and not making a difference. It's also funny when people call him anti semetic, when he has been fighting against racism and discrimination pretty much before he was even an MP. Corbyn, like all social democrats, doesn’t want to abolish capitalism; he merely wants to “reform” it,

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