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Blood work on testosterone. Low responder?

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Hi every one. 

I'm on the 4st week of 250 mg testosterone. This is my second cycle and I'm cutting, that why I'm using that low dose to only maintain muscle and help with strength. The weight is decreasing at a good rate.  I inject 125 mg testosterone on Monday and Thursday.  Last week the injections were on Tuesday and Friday, on Saturday I donated the blood and today (Monday) I made a blood work.  The results are:

total testosterone: 6.28 ng/ml

17 beta estradiol sensitive 16.8 pg/ml. 

I did not expect that low testosterone level like natural range. What is happening? The testosterone is "Galenika testosteron depo" from a well know source on this board that at the moment is no more active and every one considered reliable. The first week on cycle was the fist week I did not progress on losing weight (the cutting was already going on) so that made me feel the testosterone is authentic. Also the Arimidex I'm using is pharma gear "Anastrazole accord" , the first week  I was using 0.5 mg E2D and then I used 0.75 mg E2D. 

Based on "Steroid Calc" three day after the injection there is like the 60% of the peak of testosterone so this plus the donation blood maybe put my peak at about 10-11 ng/ml. Do you think this reasoning may be correct? If so, a peak level of 10 ng/ml may be reasonable even if I expected the double of this level. What do you think about? Is that normal? Am I a poor responder? 

I will immediately double the dose to 500 mg / week, keep the arimidex at 0.75 mg E2D (and up it to 0.5 mg ED only if I feel the need). Also I'm using 50 mcg T3 every day (Dimension Labs) and soon I will start 50 mg Anavar / day. All the other parameters on the blood test are perfect. 

Every comment, opinion and advice is well accepted. 

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2 hours ago, Andro25 said:

total testosterone: 6.28 ng/ml

Are you sure that's not your 'free testosterone' result... if not I'm guessing bunk gear 

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23 minutes ago, TERBO said:

Are you sure that's not your 'free testosterone' result... if not I'm guessing bunk gear 

It's total testosterone. God damn, seems I'm not able to get  some legit gear neither from the so called "trusted source". 

I'll double the dose and if nothing change I will blood test the LH, if it is not zero then I will know for sure it is bunk. 

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I've never heard of Galenika and never seen it mentioned on here. A Google search also says it's Eastern European pharma, which would lead to believe, especially with your levels, that it is faked. You very, very rarely get real pharma-grade test.

You also say "a well known source on this board" - we're not allowed to discuss sources, all the experienced users (and most new ones) abide by this rule, and any "accidental" posting of source info is very quickly deleted. So how do you know it's a trusted source?

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2 hours ago, smiddy444 said:

I've never heard of Galenika and never seen it mentioned on here. A Google search also says it's Eastern European pharma, which would lead to believe, especially with your levels, that it is faked. You very, very rarely get real pharma-grade test.

You also say "a well known source on this board" - we're not allowed to discuss sources, all the experienced users (and most new ones) abide by this rule, and any "accidental" posting of source info is very quickly deleted. So how do you know it's a trusted source?

Yes the original Galenika is a pharma grade and it is often faked. There was not any accidental posting about source but you know, when there is only one source that carried Thriump and carried also Dimensions and you see various descriptions about a "know source" that perfect match with your one, well you can't be sure but you can gamble that the source is the same.  And yes that source carried Galenika. 

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Just some update if someone is interested: 

I have scrupulously examined the ampules that I have and I find some differences. 

I have two batch, number 08717 and number 18274. 

The number 08717 is the one I have used till now and that the blood work indicate as bunk. I found other clues about the fakeness: the ampules contained 1 ml, where the real pharma contain 1.1 ml because they take account of the oil lose on the syringe. Moreover on one same batch, same package i found two ampules with different bottom (https://ibb.co/mqmwnmM). 

The batch number 18274 has some visual differences so I hope at least it is real. I will start it next week and do the blood work in two weeks. 

Some image of the differences:

https://ibb.co/hYwwCsv
https://ibb.co/9nQ5Tm3
https://ibb.co/dKgnCsh 

You can see the expire date has a space, the ampule has a different write and the height of the green and red circle are different. 

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6 hours ago, Andro25 said:

Just some update if someone is interested: 

I have scrupulously examined the ampules that I have and I find some differences. 

I have two batch, number 08717 and number 18274. 

The number 08717 is the one I have used till now and that the blood work indicate as bunk. I found other clues about the fakeness: the ampules contained 1 ml, where the real pharma contain 1.1 ml because they take account of the oil lose on the syringe. Moreover on one same batch, same package i found two ampules with different bottom (https://ibb.co/mqmwnmM). 

The batch number 18274 has some visual differences so I hope at least it is real. I will start it next week and do the blood work in two weeks. 

Some image of the differences:

https://ibb.co/hYwwCsv
https://ibb.co/9nQ5Tm3
https://ibb.co/dKgnCsh 

You can see the expire date has a space, the ampule has a different write and the height of the green and red circle are different. 

I still have some vials of Galenika test E from the source your talking about, I used some for a cruise and I thought it was spot on.

I have however been told there were/is many fakes but if you get lucky most have test in them anyway.

To what amount I don't know but the ones I had iirc did have over 1ml in them.

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i got fake from bayer pharma
1 ml glass ampoules, perfect case, ampoule holder, leaflet...
blood tests after 4 weeks at 500mg were about the same as yours
since then ,  only ugl .... half prices and gtg , especially for simply test

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