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On 05/01/2019 at 7:16 PM, Sasnak said:

Normal” can also mean sub-optimal, especially with the NHS and whilst they do a great job, there is seemingly evidence that they don’t always get hormones right at general practice level.

Do you know your actual numbers?

Hcg can cause gyno but probably unlikely to do so. I’m currently running it alongside 300 test without ai and I’ve had no issues but everyone is different. Hcg won’t “cure” you afaik, it’ll only potentially increase test levels for as long as you are on it.

Again, you need to find out your numbers and decide whether to stay natural or go down the trt route. Obviously trt is a one way street.

I was told my Test was “perfectly normal” and nothing to worry about. Found out 8 months after (before I knew anything about levels) that it was 7.0. I was 40yo at the  time. Never used gear before this. 

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On 05/01/2019 at 8:04 PM, lowttt said:

it was 9.20am and i hardly ever drink i think last time i was drunk was 3 months ago lol and teh endo said that i am low im just unlucky and thaty i should try and relax and do deep breathing lol they alsdo saw my lh was 1.7 so they did a mri on me but dntno the results they will see me in 6 months lol 

Deep breathing ffs

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Just got my blood test results back. Took a while as they done a genealogy test for something unrelated. 

My test level is 32.5. Doc says that is normal for 40. 

 

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On 05/01/2019 at 6:40 PM, Krk said:

I recently had a blood screening done. Everything was “normal” except for height ferritin (iron). 

I guess my symptoms are “normal” for my age. 

I just need the boost that only test can give. I’m nervous about HCG as I’ve read it can cause gyno?

How high was your ferretin? I had high ferretin last year then found out i had haemochromotosis, worth getting checked out

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On 14/03/2019 at 7:38 PM, Iron Horse said:

How high was your ferretin? I had high ferretin last year then found out i had haemochromotosis, worth getting checked out

I too have haemochromotosis. Not been on here for a while. 

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On 02/11/2019 at 6:52 AM, Seppuku71 said:

So.....what's your situation now? Did you get to the root of your problems in the end?

I’ve had a really rough time since I posted initially. 

Mum passed away and brother diagnosed with ms.

Once I ditched the mirtazipine my sex drive come back and I lost excess weight I’ve never had before. 

Im in a s**t situation. The lack of mirtazipine makes my mood low and sleep difficult. I’ve not been dealing with my issues at all. 

Im looking at various cycles now rather than trt. I need to give myself a boost. The amount of strength I’ve lost is scary. 

In the past when I’ve been on something (even alri Pro anabol) years ago. It gives me a huge incentive to train. I know a lot say products like that are s**t but I got really good results from it. I’m not sure if it was placebo or spiked.

The only Pro hormone I ever done was epistane. I got really good results in terms of size and weight gain. But i looked “puffy” and I lost the weight very quickly after cycle. I took it just before a holiday, so to be fair I was not training once the cycle stopped. 

Im 40, 5’10” and 12 stone. I know most say get yourself in peak shape before using anything. But I feel like I’ve got nothing to lose at the moment. 

Im 41 in December, life has been shite for a few years and I really need to get out of this rut. 

It seems the prohormone market as gone completely. Probably a good thing for me as having hemacromotosis is harsh on your liver anyway. 

Sarms seem a bit strange. I don’t fully understand them. Gyno also seems to be a issue. 

‘I’m not asking for any advice on where to source anything. But advice on what to stack would be welcome. 

Its like I lost my 30’s to depression and I’m having a midlife crisis.

I want to do a test cycle but I’m not sure what to stack with it.

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15 minutes ago, aqualung said:

@5'10 and 12 stone the best things you can stack are steak and chicken -i.e sort your diet out.

using AAS are not going to fix the problems in your life.

If chicken and steak would solve my problems, I would not have any problems. 

I don’t want a huge build by any means. 
 
Steak and chicken don’t cure depression unfortunately.

I need something to motivate me. Difficult to understand unless you have suffered clinical depression. 

The medication they give you does the opposite. Turns you into a zombie and make you gain weight.

Not taking the medication makes s**t difficult to deal with. It’s a bad situation.

Everyone thinks they get depressed now n then (as did I before I became ill). That’s called being pissed off or fed up. It’s not depression. 

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1 hour ago, Krk said:

If chicken and steak would solve my problems, I would not have any problems. 

I don’t want a huge build by any means. 
 
Steak and chicken don’t cure depression unfortunately.

I need something to motivate me. Difficult to understand unless you have suffered clinical depression. 

The medication they give you does the opposite. Turns you into a zombie and make you gain weight.

Not taking the medication makes s**t difficult to deal with. It’s a bad situation.

Everyone thinks they get depressed now n then (as did I before I became ill). That’s called being pissed off or fed up. It’s not depression. 

I have no experience with AAS cycles so i won't comment on that. But working out regularly is great for your mood. Maybe lots of that, and perhaps a change in medication is what you need? I was put on a couple of different ssri type antidepressants some years ago, and i hated both of them (paroxetine made me feel like an emotionless zombie, sertraline gave me huge anxiety, much worse in fact). Kratom helped, as did ghb. But working out should be compulsary when depressed. Oh, and shagging a bird at work during work time, every day, often twice, also helped (until i got caught)

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8 minutes ago, Seppuku71 said:

I have no experience with AAS cycles so i won't comment on that. But working out regularly is great for your mood. Maybe lots of that, and perhaps a change in medication is what you need? I was put on a couple of different ssri type antidepressants some years ago, and i hated both of them (paroxetine made me feel like an emotionless zombie, sertraline gave me huge anxiety, much worse in fact). Kratom helped, as did ghb. But working out should be compulsary when depressed. Oh, and shagging a bird at work during work time, every day, often twice, also helped (until i got caught)

Mate. I’m not proud of it but I’ve been shagging birds off POF and fab for the last 2 years. It was great at first but it’s just messy now. It’s the only thing I have had any enthusiasm for which is sad as f**k at my age.

They have tried me on all sorts. Lack of emotion/empathy and weight gain is what has made me stop. Cialis solves any dick issues they cause.

It doesn’t surprise me when I read that these kids that shoot their schools up in the us are on this s**t. 

Its hard to motivate myself to do anything at the moment. I used to think”lazy fucker” when I read s**t like that in the past. 

‘Intermittent fasting got rid of the weight I gained through mirtazipine. I feel better eating this way. 

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1 hour ago, Krk said:

If chicken and steak would solve my problems, I would not have any problems.  Using AAS isnt goign to solve them either

I don’t want a huge build by any means.   as stated @5'10 and 12 stone you can do a hell of alot without any AAS
 
Steak and chicken don’t cure depression unfortunately.  Neither do AAS

I need something to motivate me. Difficult to understand unless you have suffered clinical depression.  i have suffered clinical depression , AAS is not some miracle cure all that is going to make you spring out of bed .

The medication they give you does the opposite. Turns you into a zombie and make you gain weight.  speak to your pdoc , there are AD's  out there that dont  cause weight gain ( though  @12 stone i cant see how you are worried about your weight )

Not taking the medication makes s**t difficult to deal with. It’s a bad situation. something every adult has to deal with at some time or other have you tried any talking therapy ?

Everyone thinks they get depressed now n then (as did I before I became ill). That’s called being pissed off or fed up. It’s not depression.  yes real clinical depression is bad but not unbeatable , im not going to go into specifics but i have a hell of a lot of experience with mental health .

you seem to be looking for some sort of miracle cure - it does not exist , as already stated exercise is a good way to lift your mood and give you a sense of wellbeing - you dont need to use AAS to exercise .

 

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25 minutes ago, aqualung said:

you seem to be looking for some sort of miracle cure - it does not exist , as already stated exercise is a good way to lift your mood and give you a sense of wellbeing - you dont need to use AAS to exercise .

 

I’m not looking for a miracle cure. But I know if I am on cycle I’ll lift. 

Ive recently lost over a stone of fat caused by mirtazipine.

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2 minutes ago, aqualung said:

you can only lift on cycle? :P

..... crack on then

You miss my point. I can’t motivate myself to lift at the moment. 

I think I’ve made my situation pretty clear. 

Working out is great for your mood generally I agree. Used to love it. Not easy to do when you’re on your ass, lost a load of strength and everything is a bit shite. 

I need to do something positive over Xmas. 

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1 hour ago, Krk said:

You miss my point. I can’t motivate myself to lift at the moment. 

I think I’ve made my situation pretty clear. 

Working out is great for your mood generally I agree. Used to love it. Not easy to do when you’re on your ass, lost a load of strength and everything is a bit shite. 

I need to do something positive over Xmas. 

I take back what i said. Just been in the gym and had a s**t "workout". Shoulder pain stopped me doing presses, tried two different variations, gave up, leaving rest of workout not done. Pathetic. I think once past 40, especially if your testosterone is low, you're destined for tai chi and gentle strolls (weather permiting).  Second thoughts, forget about going for strolls past 40 with low test - too many trouble making youths out there nowadays, might trip me up,  don't want a broken hip or something.

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1 hour ago, Seppuku71 said:

I take back what i said. Just been in the gym and had a s**t "workout". Shoulder pain stopped me doing presses, tried two different variations, gave up, leaving rest of workout not done. Pathetic. I think once past 40, especially if your testosterone is low, you're destined for tai chi and gentle strolls (weather permiting).  Second thoughts, forget about going for strolls past 40 with low test - too many trouble making youths out there nowadays, might trip me up,  don't want a broken hip or something.

 

57 minutes ago, sean m said:

Krk  have you tried a high stim pre workout.  Just to see if that will give you a buzz to train ? 

 Then if after a couple of weeks you still want to jump on a cycle. Crack on 

My test isn’t low, it was medication side effects. 

I’m going to clean up my diet and really try over the next few weeks. 

After that I’ll do a 5 week epistane cycle with a proper pct. If I can get my self looking half decent again it will do my mental health a lot of good. 

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7 hours ago, Krk said:

 

My test isn’t low, it was medication side effects. 

I’m going to clean up my diet and really try over the next few weeks. 

After that I’ll do a 5 week epistane cycle with a proper pct. If I can get my self looking half decent again it will do my mental health a lot of good. 

You should get back on that POF site. It'll give you motivation to look good for the ladies.

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