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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
Hey guys. Back with another AMA. Have been away and busy lately.

I'd like to introduce to you @ElChapo who will be part of AMA 3.0

El Chapo is a medical professional in the US that specialises as a endocrinology research nurse. He works alongside many various endocrine patients on a daily basis.

We go back a long way and he is my ONLY go to individual when I need a second opinion on performance enhancing drugs.

Fire away.
 
#3 ·
True effect of testosterone on rbc, hematocrit and cholesterol. AND effects of stating on aas use?

Really glad to see you back!
There is a highly individual and genetic response to testosterone in regards to Hematopoietic effects and changes in lipids.

The only way to know how you are affected is with lab work. Note that this effect can take +6 months to take effect due to changes in gene expression via the androgen receptor for changes in hematocrit. For changes in lipid profile, this can happen in as little as 2-4 weeks.

Many can get away with supraphyisiological levels of testosterone and maintain HCT within normal limits, other have trouble keeping levels normal even with TRT.

In this scenario, donating blood will lower HCT by up to 3%.
 
#4 ·
Glad to be back.

Every AAS to some extent will up-regulate erythropoiesis and thus alter your haematology panel. The rate at which this happens is very individual, we have seen blood work of TRT patients on TRT dosages have their haem panels go out of whack, where as in some AAS users only a minor elevation.

AAS user will alter cholesterol without a doubt, again the rate at which it does is the same.

Statins you mean?
 
#5 ·
Glad to be back.

Every AAS to some extent will up-regulate erythropoiesis and thus alter your haematology panel. The rate at which this happens is very individual, we have seen blood work of TRT patients on TRT dosages have their haem panels go out of whack, where as in some AAS users only a minor elevation.

AAS user will alter cholesterol without a doubt, again the rate at which it does is the same.

Statins you mean?
Yes, sorry, will there be any negative effect on aas use while using statins to lower cholesterol?

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Hemapoetic changes will begin to take effect in 3 months on average, peaking after 6 months.

For lipids, you will begin to see a good amount of change in approximately 4 weeks, this too will peak in +6 months when gene expression is in full effect.

TRT doses of testosterone will not usually affect HDL in any meaningful way and tends to lower triglycerides as well. Higher doses and stronger androgens will sharply decrease HDL.
 
#30 ·
Question on expiration dates on pharma amps + orals. how long past expiration dates are they still g2g for use?

Assuming you both B&C/TRT, If you could go back in time, would you of just B&C from the get-go. thanks
Oils will stay good for +5 years or more. As long as the stopper has not been penetrated previously, it will still be sterile. Tab/pills/dry meds will stay good for a decade. The expiration date is just there as a requirement. There will be no measurable difference in potency when stored in a cool, dry, place away from light exposure.

For blast & cruise, this depends on your baseline testosterone levels, physique goals, desire for kids, etc. A blast and cruise can be just healthy, if not more, than a cycle w/ PCT. PCT drugs are fairly toxic, nolvadex has been linked to neurotoxic sides and brain fog, a fairly common side effect in breast cancer patients. Clomid can cause permanent eye floaters.

Regardless, most people use PCT drugs without a problem. As long as your cruise dose is mild and/or close to "HRT" and all health parameters are kept in check, the health risk is quite small and can be beneficial if you are treating an issue of testosterone deficiency which can lead to metabolic syndrome, fatigue, weaker bones, depression, etc. If fertility is a concern, HCG @ 500-1,000 IU per week will perserve fertility and testicular volume.

Personally, i blast/cruise. I don't run HCG as i have no plan on having kids and testicular atrophy is minor for me even on tren. I have reached my lifetime physique goals so i have no reason to blast anymore. The way i see it, if i can keep my androgen levels at optimal levels for a benefit in work performance, cognition, sex, and sports, i will do it. One of the best decisions i ever made was to blast and cruise. Again, this is a personal decision and not one to be taken lightly. The improved energy and focus in work alone was enough to make it all worth it. Pinning with a 30 g 5/16th inch slin pin is literally painless, i don't feel a thing and look forward to pinning. I have a lifetime supply of testosterone enanthate raws, so i'm covered on that end. My doctor knows and supports my use and helps me keep track of everything. I can't deny that i am blessed.
 
#29 ·
Can clen be used long term and still be effective. Long term I mean 8 weeks max at a dose of say 40-60mcg daily or what approach do you guys recommend.

Is it worth while to run growth at a low dose for health and well being benifits e.g. Improved sleep, recovery, skin and to aid with fat loss. Somthing like 3/4iu 3 times per week or 2iu per day?

Can pharma test be used long term at a dose of 250mg every 2 weeks again more so for the health benifits of improved recovery and to aid with fat loss and muscle growth without having to run any ancilary drugs.
 
#31 ·
Can clen be used long term and still be effective. Long term I mean 8 weeks max at a dose of say 40-60mcg daily or what approach do you guys recommend.

Is it worth while to run growth at a low dose for health and well being benifits e.g. Improved sleep, recovery, skin and to aid with fat loss. Somthing like 3/4iu 3 times per week or 2iu per day?

Can pharma test be used long term at a dose of 250mg every 2 weeks again more so for the health benifits of improved recovery and to aid with fat loss and muscle growth without having to run any ancilary drugs.
I HIGHLY recommend cycling different stimulants and fat burners to get around the downregulated cellular pathways that come with regular usage. You can cycle out clen for ephedrine, yohimbine, and even DNP. Clen and ephedrine work as beta adrenergic receptor agonist(activator). Beta receptors are the "gas pedal" for lipolysis AKA fat loss. They both have a similar mechanism of action.

Yohimbine is an alpha adrenergic 2 receptor antagonist(blocker). Alpha 2 receptors are the reason lower stomach/back/glute adipocytes are so tough to shrink. These receptors make the fat cells resistant to catecholamine(adrenaline/noradrenaline) induced lipolysis. That is why they are the last spots to get lean. I am a huge fan of yohimbine. The optimal dose is 0.2 mg per kg of bodyweight, taken on an empty stomach. This approach works best with intermittent fasting as food will nullify some of yohimbine's benefits.

DNP uses a completely different mechanism than the latter three, this one works at the mitochondrial level and basically makes the cells use energy inefficiently, thus making them waste a good amount of it as heat energy. Usual dose and conservative dosage is 250 mg daily of the powder.

By cycling these compounds, one does not let the body downregulate fat loss by cycling a different mechanism of action with each drug.
 
#41 ·
Thanks for the informative responses, much appreciated

which would yield better results in terms of fat loss, muscle growth, better recovery and general well being

150-250mg test per week long term say 12-18 months

12iu pharma growth 12-18 months
Diet is 100%, but 12 IU growth is over kill for plain fat loss.

Going off of what you said above, i would recommend 300 mg of test E per week with E2 kept in a tight range of 15-42 pg/mL, this is the dosage where the androgenic effect of test gives a nice boost to fat loss, especially if E2 is kept in range.

3 iu's of GOOD human growth hormone will give a nice boost in fat loss. Too much GH can give some people water retention, individual and unique effect of course. The higher dosages are reserved for people seeking pure mass.
 
#81 ·
@ghost.recon, On your blast, as you have mentioned 150Mg per week of Test-E, Is it with ester weight or without?

I have thought many times of starting a cycle but i am a bit worry about MPB. I thought of starting 250Mg Test-E E10D with 400Mg NPP per week. Your views on this cyle?.

What are you thoughts on managing DHT related issues on androgens?

Can you share more details on 23andme?. Looks interesting. What are the main benefits ?

Thanks
 
#89 ·
@ghost.recon, On your blast, as you have mentioned 150Mg per week of Test-E, Is it with ester weight or without?

I have thought many times of starting a cycle but i am a bit worry about MPB. I thought of starting 250Mg Test-E E10D with 400Mg NPP per week. Your views on this cyle?.

What are you thoughts on managing DHT related issues on androgens?

Can you share more details on 23andme?. Looks interesting. What are the main benefits ?

Thanks
Not a bad cycle for the hair conscious individual. Do you have any recession yet and does it run in your family?

Nizoral is very effective at preventing hair loss, and will even thicken thinner hair, but it works best as prophylaxis. It works as well as rogaine but through a better mechanism It's a local androgen blocker, anti inflammatory, and anti-fungal.

I would never recommend the 5 alpha reductase drugs finasteride or dutasteride. These are some nasty drugs that can cause depression and ED. Not worth the risk although swear by them, some aint so lucky.

Nizoral works for me, use it daily for 5 minutes in the shower. Peak effect will take 6 months for hair thickness but its great stuff. Use prescription strength 2%. The OTC is trash. It kills dandruff which is a nice bonus and can double as an anti-acne shampoo for delts, chest, etc.

30-50 mg daily zinc can really make a difference in mild acne and excess sebum production as well as being protective of the prostate.

23andme is a service that analyzes your DNA through your spit. It gives you access to raw data where you can explore your DNA for genes encoding everything from muscle fiber type, resicilience to stress, empathy, cancer risk, alzheimrs etc.
 
#82 · (Edited by Moderator)
@ghost.recon

@ElChapo

You are stuck on an island together and told only the biggest (and leanest) of the two of you can live and return to civilisation after a years time training alone with each other. You have enough lifting equipment, food, water and a selection of any PED's you want, including AAS, slin, peptides and anything else you can think of. What would be your survival stack for the year?
 
#93 ·
@ghost.recon

@ElChapo

You are stuck on an island together and told only the biggest (and leanest) of the two of you can live and return to civilisation after a years time training alone with each other. You have enough lifting equipment, food, water and a selection of any PED's you want, including AAS, slin, peptides and anything else you can think of. What would be your survival stack for the year?
Something like 300 mg test with AI, 700 mg winstrol and 1 gram of tren. This would make you strong as a juiced up ox, cut, lean and dry as smoked jerky. Would run 6 iu pharma GH with fast acting slin. 1 g daily tudca to protect the liver.

If this were a battle, i would taper off the tren down to 200 mg per week to spare cardio for the fight and up winny to a gram.

Tren/winstrol are my favorite compounds, they treat me well and make you very dry and very strong. No mood issues on tren and no glass joints or hair loss from winny for me.

I am sure @ghost.recon will be more creative with the stack , i'm a conservative guy when it comes to compounds. He's an encyclopedia :thumb
 
#83 ·
I'm so glad you're back!

What is your opinion of Helios, i.e. injectable clen + yohimbine?

I'm hovering about 7-8%BF and have some very stubborn body fat in lower abs.

Is Helios useful for spot fat reduction for a guy like me? Is it a game changer or just mildly useful?

Thanks in advance!
 
#90 ·
I'm so glad you're back!

What is your opinion of Helios, i.e. injectable clen + yohimbine?

I'm hovering about 7-8%BF and have some very stubborn body fat in lower abs.

Is Helios useful for spot fat reduction for a guy like me? Is it a game changer or just mildly useful?

Thanks in advance!
I am a huge fan of yohimbine, but have only dosed orally as this did more than enough for stubborn fat. Recall that yohimbine excels at burning stubborn fat via alpha adrenergic 2 antagonism.

Myself, i do fasted cardio 30 mins after yohimbine, the fasted cardio will further the cathcholamine response to yohimbine supplementation and enhance blood flow to the stubborn fat. This was always more than enough for me.

Some i trust swear by topical yohimbine, but no clue on injectable. Yohimbine is also a potent erection promoting drug and has been shown in studies to increase girth temporarily from engorgement.
 
#84 ·
3 weeks ago I finished blast of 450mg Test p and 350npp. I am now on hgh 3iu mon-Fri pharma and 150mg Test e trt cruise. I wanted to cut a bit of bf, is this enough to maintain muscle mass. I'm 13st 15%bf. Not a mass monster, more after lean athletic look. Calories will be dropped by no more than 500 a day through exercise.
 
#91 ·
It will depend on two factors,

1. How your body responds to 150 mg of testosterone, is it putting you in the 1,000 ng/dL region or are you only hitting 500 ng/dL?

2.How much muscle you carry is another factor.

500 cal deficit is a nice conservative cut but i would bump to 300 mg test with AI. This will enhance lipolysis further and have a stronger muscle sparing effect. 300 mg will get most up there in serum T, some guys are only hitting average levels at 150 mg per week.

You could also run a cool 150/150 test/npp combo
 
#85 ·
@ElChapo you mentioned in the start of this that hct type increases usually kick in after 3rd month...

I had fairly high hct last cycle which was my 1st cycle, I was on test enth for 16 weeks.

I'm just wondering if I used test prop for 8 weeks would it lessen the chances of getting a high hct??

Also, and I promise it's my last question lol, dhb Aka 1-test cyp, I'm told it doesn't mess up hct and rbc like Boldenone does but I'm wondering what your opinion on that is.

Thanks again for your help, it's much appreciated
 
#92 ·
@ElChapo you mentioned in the start of this that hct type increases usually kick in after 3rd month...

I had fairly high hct last cycle which was my 1st cycle, I was on test enth for 16 weeks.

I'm just wondering if I used test prop for 8 weeks would it lessen the chances of getting a high hct??

Also, and I promise it's my last question lol, dhb Aka 1-test cyp, I'm told it doesn't mess up hct and rbc like Boldenone does but I'm wondering what your opinion on that is.

Thanks again for your help, it's much appreciated
Great question

Since prop kicks in faster with a much higher spike in T per injection, the effect will be similar to 16 weeks of test e in terms of physiological effects. The gene expression changes happen much faster with short esters.

If you are sensitive to rises in HCT i recommend regular donation, even when off cycle to keep your HCT in the mid to low end (Low-mid 40s) so when you blast, you have this reservoir for HCT. HCT in the 40s will not effect performance either, and the people who need blood win too.

DHB is something of a mystery at the moment. I cannot say for certain, however, DHT and even estradiol elevation has been linked to an increase risk of erythrocytosis (elevated hgb/hct).

DHB being a 5 alpha reduced metabolite boldenone, a hormone already notorious for its blood volumizing effect could possible cause this effect, but we wont know without lab work or studies and at the endof the day only susceptible individuals will be affected.
 
#98 ·
No experience with them, never needed peptides, but if you have a working pituitary and are younger, they can be a cheaper alternative to GH. Chad mendes was caught with GHRP in the UFC.

It's going to depend on your individual response to the peptide and how much GH your pituitary will pump out in response vs a shot of GH.
 
#96 · (Edited by Moderator)
In your opinions how harmful do you think NPP would be to reproductive health?

I plan on running it on my next cycle but my Mrs is keen on having a baby possibly early part of next year "maybe" lol

cheers guys

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Depends on your goals. Most guys dream physiques can be built on test alone.

The 19nors are notorious for shutting down spermatogenesis and endogenous testosterone production because they are also progestins. The brain senses androgen, progestin and estrogen which has a synergistic effect in turning off the HPTA.

There will always be a risk of infertility with ANY AAS, so know this before you run anything and make sure the risk is worth it to you. Run 1,000 IU hcg per week through the cycle to perserve fertility.

Many will still get their SO pregnant running tren and deca with no HCG. It's all individual.

You could do a test+dbol or winstrol cycle with HCG. Depending on your goals(bulk or cut). This stack will treat you very well.;

300-500 mg test with e2 control+50-100 mg dbol or winny. If you are prone to gyno dont run dbol. Run 250-500 mg tudca or use injectable, this will let you run these two beauties without taxing your liver on a longer cycle/blast.

Remember, diet and traing builds physiques, drugs facilitate the process.
 
#88 ·
Fertility - Is there a way to temporarily increase sperm count and mobility whilst on cycle?

I've been on blast/cruise for over 12 months and use HCG 1000iu weekly

Need to do a sperm check soon as Mrs is receiving endocrinology treatment for certain issues and i'm required to provide a sperm sample
 
#103 ·
Fertility - Is there a way to temporarily increase sperm count and mobility whilst on cycle?

I've been on blast/cruise for over 12 months and use HCG 1000iu weekly

Need to do a sperm check soon as Mrs is receiving endocrinology treatment for certain issues and i'm required to provide a sperm sample
HCG is the ticket. Clomid wont work as HPTA is shutdown with exogenous supplementation. Take 30-50 mg zinc daily, this will improve sperm quality and motility.

You were smart to run hcg from the get-go, i think you guys will be okay. Best of luck to you

avoid 19nors, trest and high doses of test around 6 months when you are trying to conceive.
 
#94 · (Edited by Moderator)
hi guys and thanks a lot for this. @ElChapo @ghost.recon

1-Do you think EOD injection on long ester worth it about stable blood plasma vs scar tissue buildup ?

2-Do you think for someone who hit 1gr + test 1gr of EQ + 400mg of tren + 500mg of DHB for exemple, is necessary to progressive overload dosage or you can hit this cycle first week ? actually is it necessary to progresse build up dosage for someone who hit high dosage or he can start at high the 1st week

3-Your opinion on long vs short ester ?

4-Why test is test but on test prop my sex drive goes crazy even at low dosage compare to 800mg of test E for example ?

5-Your opinion about SEO ?

Thanks a LOT
 
#101 · (Edited by Moderator)
hi guys and thanks a lot for this.

1-Do you think EOD injection on long ester worth it about stable blood plasma vs scar tissue buildup ?

2-Do you think for someone who hit 1gr + test 1gr of EQ + 400mg of tren + 500mg of DHB for exemple, is necessary to progressive overload dosage and you cant hit this cycle first week ? actually is it necessary to progresse build up dosage for someone who hit high dosage ?

3-Your opinion on long vs short ester ?

4-Why test is test but on test prop my sex drive goes crazy even at low dosage compare to 800mg of test E for example ?

5-Your opinion about SEO ?

Thanks a LOT
Very stable serum levels is not very important as the effect of a drug lasts longer than its time in serum.

Recall that GH has a VERY short half-life, it is gone in a few hours but we continue to see its benefits. This is due to gene expression.

When you drink coffee (adenosine antagonist) you will only feel the coffee as long as it is in serum, this is because caffeine's mechanism of action is through a NON-genomic effect, aka it does not use gene expression.

Still, I have a preference for short esters since discovering backfilling slin pins @ 30 g, 5/16 inch. These are a BEAUTY to pin, but you have to be fairly lean to hit IM. I am pretty impatient and a slow responder to long esters (6 weeks to kick in). Long esters are awesome for travel and taking a break from pinning. Short esters allow you to change doses on the fly and back out quick when a new compound does not treat you well.

To answer #2, the more you rely on the drugs, the quicker you will need to bump the dose to break a plateau. I see too many guys blasting grams of tren and they dont look like they lift, reddit is notorious for this issue. I believe once you absolutely max out gains on a certain dose, you can bump it to see new growth but guys are quick to do this too soon.

#4 Test prop treats me the same, it seems the higher peak (and i mean HIGH) serum test from prop has something to do with this. Even a low dose prop shot can send your total t to 5,000 for 12 hours. I definitely feel the shorter esters have more of a kick to them and it may be down to their rapid onset of peak levels/pharmacokinetics.

#5 Nothing against SEO, pretty controversial subject in terms of ethics but i believe people should be allowed to do what they want with their bodies, barring self harm. If synthol helps them reach their goals and makes them happy then i'm for it. The inflammation from the shot and the volume of the oil will give temporary size increase and long term scarring may give a permament boost in size.
 
#97 ·
1. What kind of bulking cycle would you personally recommend?

2. I ask because I'm currently cutting on 350mg Test Prop and 525mg Tren Ace per week (first Tren cycle) and feel great, no bad sides (insomnia/sweats/rage). And I'm tempted (because of the lack of sides) to run the tren/test long esters in my winter bulk. But then everyone loves Deca/Test for a bulk... So what you think, for me, Tren or try Deca?

3. I've been cycle and cruising for about 12 months now (600mg Test, 250mg Test, 600mg Test, 250mg Test, 350mg Test/535mg Tren). I was planning to PCT and take a few months off. I've no plans to have anymore kids (2 is plenty). You say you think cruising would be more healthy than PCT. How long into a cruise would be best to see if you where still healthy? Is it just the toxicity of the PCT drugs you don't like? I've only done PCT once and I did feel awful for the first week, blurred vision and lathargic.
 
#234 ·
1. What kind of bulking cycle would you personally recommend?

2. I ask because I'm currently cutting on 350mg Test Prop and 525mg Tren Ace per week (first Tren cycle) and feel great, no bad sides (insomnia/sweats/rage). And I'm tempted (because of the lack of sides) to run the tren/test long esters in my winter bulk. But then everyone loves Deca/Test for a bulk... So what you think, for me, Tren or try Deca?

3. I've been cycle and cruising for about 12 months now (600mg Test, 250mg Test, 600mg Test, 250mg Test, 350mg Test/535mg Tren). I was planning to PCT and take a few months off. I've no plans to have anymore kids (2 is plenty). You say you think cruising would be more healthy than PCT. How long into a cruise would be best to see if you where still healthy? Is it just the toxicity of the PCT drugs you don't like? I've only done PCT once and I did feel awful for the first week, blurred vision and lathargic.
I seem to have got missed :thumb
 
#106 · (Edited by Moderator)
200mg test per week 125mg tren ace every other day. Clen plus t3. Anything else I should add? Got just under 8 weeks till my holiday.

@ghost.recon @ElChapo
Winny or mast will polish you nicely. Winny will dry you out more and make you stronger mg per mg, mast wont bother liver.

You can add oral yohimbine to tackle stubborn fat or 200 mg DNP daily the last 4 weeks. You will look like a god.
 
#107 ·
thanks YOU A LOT @ElChapo

1-What do you think about lantus slin and milos sarcev slin protocol Pre + post wo. I already try humalog pre and even with load of carbs I always had 5 to 10min on slight hypo while I don't have on humulin-R.

2-What do you think about some studies about tren and brain damage ?

3-Do you think too much gear especially Tren is not counter productive if you dont eat even much more than on other cycle (caloric surplus ++). I didnt feel myself very "full" the last time I did 700mg of tren per week, I think on this dose you have to have a s**t load of carbs. I mean the metabolism become too fast no ? Or maybe I was too low on test and loose fullness. I would like to retry this tren dosage.

4-Last videos on enhanced ahtlere were interesting about whey isolate vs solid food. Tony huge like protein powder but coach trevor doesnt. Its too quick for him and you have to add fat to slow dogestion. Because the body cant absorbe much than 15gr of protein per hour and 40gr of whey is absorbed in 45min. So what about drinking 200gr of protein powder throught the day with some MCT oil in a bottle to always have aminos in blood.
 
#112 · (Edited by Moderator)
thanks YOU A LOT @ElChapo

1-What do you think about lantus slin and milos sarcev slin protocol Pre + post wo. I already try humalog pre and even with load of carbs I always had 5 to 10min on slight hypo while I don't have on humulin-R.

2-What do you think about some studies about tren and brain damage ?

3-Do you think too much gear especially Tren is not counter productive if you dont eat even much more than on other cycle (caloric surplus ++). I didnt feel myself very "full" the last time I did 700mg of tren per week, I think on this dose you have to have a s**t load of carbs. I mean the metabolism become too fast no ? Or maybe I was too low on test and loose fullness. I would like to retry this tren dosage.

4-Last videos on enhanced ahtlere were interesting about whey isolate vs solid food. Tony huge like protein powder but coach trevor doesnt. Its too quick for him and you have to add fat to slow dogestion. Because the body cant absorbe much than 15gr of protein per hour and 40gr of whey is absorbed in 45min. So what about drinking 200gr of protein powder throught the day with some MCT oil in a bottle to always have aminos in blood.
Lantus is like test E to test suspension. It will keep your cells receptive to carbs and protein all day, similar effect to metformin, but much more potent. The fast insulin will blast nutrients into the muscles fast and hard, the lantus will keep them sensitive to carbs and protein all day.

The tren dose used in the mice studies that showed increase amyloid plaque aggregation would be equivalent to running 2 grams. This effect is compounded when there is no test in the mix as test, DHT and E2 are neurosteroids with important protective functions in the brain and nervous system. If you limit big tren blasts in terms of time on or run lower doses for longer, you will be fine. Just be smart and respect the compound, and always do your cardio.

In regards to the question about tren, calories, etc. It depends on your goals, tren is amazing for strength and nutrient repartioning, it doesnt take a lot of to perserve muscle on a cut and you are better off keeping the dose low-moderate on a bulk as it can interfere with appetite and digestion, and stacking with other compounds. I find 300 g+ carbs will usually restore the pumped look. Being flat is a question of how much glycogen is missing inside the muscle, upping carbs will fix this issue. Low test will make it so you cant get away with low carb as much and not look flat.

Your body can utilize a lot more than that per meal. It's a broscience myth. You could literally eat all your protein in one sitting and be fine. (i dont recommend this). Studies show peak protein synthesis is reached after ingestion of 40 grams of protein and this is in natty individuals without slin, gh, tren etc.

I myself like powders because i'm not a fan of eating HUGE amounts of meat. I'd rather eat more carbs, but its individual. You dont NEED protein powder. It's more for convenience. Don't overthink it, just eat, lift and grow.
 
#116 ·
@ElChapo thanks a lot, sory but I got too many questions

1-So by your writes, lantus seems very powerfull in adidtion it has more affinity with igf1 bindind receptors. But read a lot of times by some guys like Palumbo or jordan peters, there is no point to use it, there is no need to have 24/7 slin in blood and expose you to a real diabetic risk on extended period. Plus, it will kill your slin sensitivity and risk of hypo during the night. Some guys say it was used in the 80 90's because it was the only available version of slin. What do you think about it ? Its it a powerful tool in addition to fast acting slin ?

2-What do you think about mixing test esters for example 750mg of testE 750mg of sust or testE+prop whole the cycle ?

3-Do tyou think high dose hgh is a gamer changer in terms of building musclemass ?

4-What's should be your slin protocol if you have to make one ?

5-Your fav campounds to use and those you think it doesnt worth to use it

MANY MANY THANKS
 
#121 · (Edited by Moderator)
@ElChapo thanks a lot, sory but I got too many questions

1-So by your writes, lantus seems very powerfull in adidtion it has more affinity with igf1 bindind receptors. But read a lot of times by some guys like Palumbo or jordan peters, there is no point to use it, there is no need to have 24/7 slin in blood and expose you to a real diabetic risk on extended period. Plus, it will kill your slin sensitivity and risk of hypo during the night. Some guys say it was used in the 80 90's because it was the only available version of slin. What do you think about it ? Its it a powerful tool in addition to fast acting slin ?

2-What do you think about mixing test esters for example 750mg of testE 750mg of sust or testE+prop whole the cycle ?

3-Do tyou think high dose hgh is a gamer changer in terms of building musclemass ?

4-What's should be your slin protocol if you have to make one ?

5-Your fav campounds to use and those you think it doesnt worth to use it

MANY MANY THANKS
1# the concensus is that the risk of developing diabetes from insulin use is extremely minimal, unless you have a very strong genetic disposition, which would likely make you insulin dependent eventually anyways. If you are eating many meals a day, a morning dose of lantus will prevent the risk of hypoglycemia during sleep and sensitize your cells to nutrients all day. Just avoid dosing lantus at bedtime, if you go hypo during the day, you can have a snack. Always carry around your favorite candy with you in case this happens and make sure you own a glucometer.

#2 I like the stability and simplicity of running one ester at a time, we can control the variable of peaks and troughs. If we run into an issue such as e2, it will be much easier to manage when we know the pharmacokinetics of the compound. I think people really overcomplicate things sometimes. It's less energy being diverted into training and nutrition over little things that won't make a difference at the end of the day.

#3 HGH/Slin opens the door to mass. Most gentlemen training to look good naked/aesthetic will never need to tap into these two compounds. Not that a low dose of both wouldn't hurt for someone not looking for freak mass.

#4 4-12 iu rapid acting insulin with meals, standard protocol. Keep it simple, let diet and training do the rest. You can assess your individual tolerance and start low. Make sure each meal is carb rich and time these around your workouts. A protein shake with your favorite cereal post-workout is an amazing anabolic/insulin/nutrient bomb. Keep fat LOW when using insulin as adipocytes will also have enhanced nutrient uptake.

#5 Low dose test for physiology, you will find that 300 and 600 mg of test have almost identical effects on IGF-1 levels with slight increase in mass at 600 mg. 300 mg will saturate receptors well for most people. If you are a mass freak or powerlifter, you may like high dosed test.

Winstrol is cheap and a beauty of power and aesthetics. It makes you strong and dry and pretty. It is very versatile. It will keep you strong and dry on a cut, and build dry tissue and strength on a bulk. This compound is used in medicine to reduce water retention and edema in people with hereditary angioedema and other conditions that affect circulation. It works by inhibiting a compound called fibrinogen in the blood. That should tell you how effective it is at dropping water. Also has bone building effects. Some will find they get joint pain on this med, make sure your vitamin D levels are high as vitamin d deficiency will lead to pain when running winny/letrozole. If you dont suffer from joint pain or hair loss, you will love this compound.

Tren is similar in terms of versatility and effects. This compound will treat you right wether you seek fat loss or lean tissue gain. Mild-moderate drying effect, great strength compound. It can negatively affect appetite, so dosage on bulk should be tailored to this effect. Tren is a double edged sword, there two meanings to tren dick. Tren dick #1 basically deca dick, spaghetti cock. Tren dick #2 Viagra like erections. Your response will vary depending on genetics, e2 levels and other compounds in the mix.

Keep E2 in the low-mid range when running tren and always carry raloxifene, this compound can cause progesterone based gyno in susceptible individuals.

NPP is a great, mild compound for those looking for strength and thickness but fear androgenic sides like acne, hairloss, and BPH. It is also fantastic for women and is similar to var in terms of risk of virilization and strength gains. 50-100 mg per week is a nice dose for bikini-figure physique. Libido will get a huge spike, strength and energy through the roof.

Dbol is a gyno bomb for those predisposed to it as it aromatizes to methyl-estradiol, basically E2 on steroids. This estrogen isomer is MUCH more potent than e2 and the liver has a hard time metabolizing it due to the methylation which makes it stick around longer.
 
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@thanks a LOT @ElChapo and @ghost.recon

Its gonna help me a lot.

I used win one time and it was awesome. I didnt retry since that time because I feel my joints dry and I work heavy, im too scared about injuries. Anything to avoid this ? D3 is sufficient really or there is stil la risk ?

About this guys, I work pretty heavy whole the year and I had 2 little injuries in 2months (very little tear with no aesthetic impact) I start to feel myself very bored about this. Is heavy weight /progressive overload the only method to pack musclemass ? I see lot of guys doing high volume like juan diesel with awesome results or dexter jackson with nerve-failure sets lol I guess its genetic ? :( I notice I dont respond that much to heavy weight on legs for example so...
 
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