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Are there any pre-workouts that are worth bothering with?

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nothing beats popping a caffeine pill and beta alanine pills. Also some taurine and creatine mixed in juice or water, use that to down ur pills. Job done.

Pretty much exactly what I do, caffeine, beta alanine powder (must try the pills as it doesn't mix well at all) and I add creatine nitrate as well with some juice.

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I just finished a bottle of GAT Nitraflex and wow. To me this has to be the best pre-workout out there. Taking two scoops of Nitraflex made me feel I was on another planet. Great Energy and pump and I couldn't remember having a bad workout with it. I had fruit punch and green apple flavors so far, and would have to go to Fruit Punch.

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I'm with you, since the demise of DMAA there aren't really any decent ones and they are all pretty much the same. I am surrounded by people who keep buying different pre workout products based on the name or packaging and they are the same, caffeine, green tea, guarana, creatine, arginine and beta alanine.

I have actually recently found some pre workout products still available on american sites with DMAA in. One is called Jack'd Up and is a clone of Jack3d made by a company called Hi-Tech who seem to not give a F about anything - sounds good to me. Also Mesomorph by APS still has DMAA in it, both can be bought on a few sites. I orderd some Jack'd up around a week ago from eVitamins and should be here either tomorrow or monday - I'll let you know. Was about £26 with delivery for

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