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There have been quite a few threads recently that have been very for/against steroids lately, now until recently I was one of the "I've read it in the paper and steroids are bad brigade" but now find that having read a lot of you guys experiences and knowledge of the subject, I'm a lot more open minded on the subject, the thing is ive got the impression that most threads have deteriated to steroids are bad or steroids arent bad, what i'm looking for in this thread is some downsides from past or present gear users on what bad experiences they've had or seen in others. There must be some and I feel that to be balanced on a subject you must have the good and the bad side, thanks in advance guys
 

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the downsides are minimal in my experience. the truth is I looked better, felt better and generally enjoyed life much more on a good dose of test.

I haven't experienced any of the side effects you hear about.. not even water retention.

that said I haven't tried all steroids... so I cant comment on every compound.. and all drugs effect everyone differently.

but of the 5 or so different steroids I've used... its been a pleasure.
 

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oops... except one... superdrol. I felt like **** on that... kind of like I had the flu. also bold prop was no picnic... but I didn't really use those much.. and they did have a rep.

but test, deca.. eq... all good.
 

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tel3563 said:
There must be some and I feel that to be balanced on a subject you must have the good and the bad side, thanks in advance guys
IMO, the only people who get the "bad sides" are the people who jump in head first without doing any research whatsoever.. I like to call them "fcuking idiots!"

I believe in the 5 P's

Proper Preparation Prevents Poor Performance

Steroids in general are safe in my opinion, but they are not to be messed around with! At the end of the day they are powerful substances and if you just jump in gung ho, the chances are you will end up paying for that mistake.
 

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to be fair if you are responsible and get your health checked regular the downsides are very limited unfortunately not many do this and this applies to the more experienced bodybuilders as well as the newbies to the drug.......

i am not saying their are not down sides to using steroids but there are a hell of alot less than when you abuse steroids, to me abuse is using to higher dose for your experience level for to long (which is common if you take cycle advice from the guy you buy the gear from)

i have suffered no worse sides than slight acne and slightly raised cholesterol and that is it and yes i get my bloods/heart and bones checked yearly.....it is a shame that some who use these drugs are willing to pay for the gear they use whithout hesitation yet won't pay to get their health checked....
 

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the main downside is the fact that you have to come off lol.

In all seriouseness as above if used properly and you do your research there shouldnt be many sides. every1 is different. I do get some acne on shoulders and back not much tho however a freind of mine gets it real bad.

The most important thing to remember is we all react differently and just because i dont get 1 side effect doesnt mean you wont and vice versa.

I hear to many lads in the gym say take this and take that i dont get any side effects. Its always best to do your own research and start with the basics and go from there. This board in my opinion is one of the best places for a first time user to come and get info on everyt aspect of his training/diet and AAS use.
 

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the only downside i find is acne when you come off, not everyone gets it, but some do, and untill you come off you wont know if you will or not.

and its diffrent to random spots, they are deeper and more like red bulges that can be sore, when i get them, i get them suddenly and quite a few, nothing you can do really, you can control them a bit with medicine etc but at the end of the day there is NO cure so you just have to grin and bear it.

however IMO the positives FAR outweigh the negatives.
 
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For me, blood pressure gets higher and maintaining under 140 systolic is hard and it goes up to 160 yet diastolic stays low enough but my body weight plays a large factor also.

Acne occur i usually get a couple of spots in my face the next day following test shots.

Hair growth around the body.
 
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down sides to using steroids but there are a hell of alot less than when you abuse steroids,
Well put , doctors will always say builders are abusing but even within building circles there is use and abuse, and also the uneducated following the words of a gym dealer, whos only interest is profit not your health or well being.
 

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Trenzyme said:
1.acne out breaks ,.. not often

2.the stigma attached to steroids.. with them being evil and all

3.cost... extra food supps ect, new clothes after a good cycle ,

4 ...eeerrrr thats it it really
I always took that to be a good side effect.

Mabey just me
 

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One big side is gyno but it can be combatted easily enough with a good AI

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For me, blood pressure gets higher and maintaining under 140 systolic is hard and it goes up to 160 yet diastolic stays low enough but my body weight plays a large factor also.

Acne occur i usually get a couple of spots in my face the next day following test shots.

Hair growth around the body.
Exactly the same as me mate.
 

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Steroids is a pretty wide catch-all umbrella...but from my own experience:

I got into (and really likes) testoviron. I did a short cycle in '91 - followed by another cycle in 92 - then in 93 I really got carried away. I did sus, d-bol and deca going upto - eventually 500mg of sus, 3-4 d-bol a day and 400mg of deca. I looked and felt wonderful - but I just did not want to come off. This is the psychological addiction that noone seems to want to talk about...

I eventually did in my immune system, started to get bad abscesses and came off in a scare with no PCT. I lost 2 stone ion modyweight in a matter of weeks - like the guy with "poison ivy" in that movie (was it a batman movie?) when his tubes were disconnected by batman - heh!

I have an addictive personality and I had (probably still have) many self esteem issues going on in my head. Then around 99-2000 I did a short cycle of M1T which made me feel suicidal, really bad.

Now I'm just too worried about my postrate to risk anything like that - especially as most the guys I knew around my age who did gear are suffering from enlarged protrates. My sex life is too important to me to risk that - besides, since I learnt to keep my workouts simple with large compound movements and got my diet in gear (pardon the pun) - I look twice as good and am stronger than I ever was on the gear.

When you're young you feel invincible - but now I can see the horizon approaching, I'd prefer to keep safe. After all, I got into BBing to attract the ladies, not to be the biggest MoFo on the block - and it took me a while to realise that being "boulder man" was just not worth it. Add to that having to inject, bum like a pin cuision - nerve damage in my bum several times, the acne, the bad breath, the smelly (I mean really smelly) sweat, etc, etc
 

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kamal said:
Steroids is a pretty wide catch-all umbrella...but from my own experience:

I got into (and really likes) testoviron. I did a short cycle in '91 - followed by another cycle in 92 - then in 93 I really got carried away. I did sus, d-bol and deca going upto - eventually 500mg of sus, 3-4 d-bol a day and 400mg of deca. I looked and felt wonderful - but I just did not want to come off. This is the psychological addiction that noone seems to want to talk about...

I eventually did in my immune system, started to get bad abscesses and came off in a scare with no PCT. I lost 2 stone ion modyweight in a matter of weeks - like the guy with "poison ivy" in that movie (was it a batman movie?) when his tubes were disconnected by batman - heh!

I have an addictive personality and I had (probably still have) many self esteem issues going on in my head. Then around 99-2000 I did a short cycle of M1T which made me feel suicidal, really bad.

Now I'm just too worried about my postrate to risk anything like that - especially as most the guys I knew around my age who did gear are suffering from enlarged protrates. My sex life is too important to me to risk that - besides, since I learnt to keep my workouts simple with large compound movements and got my diet in gear (pardon the pun) - I look twice as good and am stronger than I ever was on the gear.

When you're young you feel invincible - but now I can see the horizon approaching, I'd prefer to keep safe. After all, I got into BBing to attract the ladies, not to be the biggest MoFo on the block - and it took me a while to realise that being "boulder man" was just not worth it. Add to that having to inject, bum like a pin cuision - nerve damage in my bum several times, the acne, the bad breath, the smelly (I mean really smelly) sweat, etc, etc
But dude, the abseccess could have been down to your injection technique, and im not saying you did it wrong or anything but you could have probably avoided that. Also if you had of done PCT you would have

had a better recovery. where you using a lot of gear? you sound like you

could have been abusing as opposed to using? and the other side effects

ie bad breath etc can be counter acted, especially if you take for instance protein drinks can give you bad breath if you have them all the time, just use mouthwash and chew chewy!

Again dude, i aint trying to get your back up or say that you were practising wrong but some people do who end up in the same position

as yourself.
 
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