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Enough is never enough!!
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Been off for 6 weeks or so now and thinking about going on to a cycle of tren and winstrol, half a mil of each every other day for 6 weeks.

how does that sound to everyone?
 

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Sounds bad.

No test is never good, and oil based winny is not the best thing, much better to take it orally.

Also being off for 6 weeks is not really worth coming off IMO.

Test and tren, a certain mg amount, (as 1/2ml can vary a lot between products), is a much better choice.
 

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i see what your saying with the test but i want to stay as lean as possible, cant afford to add bulk for occupation sake.

if i'm going to take winni tabs what dose should i take?

or what stack do you recommend?
 

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Lean no water stack, dose depends on you, size, experience, etc, but if you are anti test, which you should not be, if you retain water then add in some Arimidex or similar.

Then Masteron, Tren, Winny would be the stack of choice.

Masteron should keep libido normal, and possibly add some hardness depending on the individual.

I'd say 350mg of each injectable, plus 50mg oral winny per day would be a nice cycle.

Depending on how far you are above your natural gains, you could drop the winny out totally and still have a good cycle.
 

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ok, i'm 87.5 kilo and around 8-10% body fat, i'm judging that on my abs, got 4 of the 6. lol

i used test enanthate before and test prop but i retained water and didnt like the look.

so i really want to stay away from it.

can also get my hands on water based winstrol or tablets if thats any better?

what is masteron exactly is that an injectable version of proviron?
 

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wee-markus said:
ok, i'm 87.5 kilo and around 8-10% body fat, i'm judging that on my abs, got 4 of the 6. lol

i used test enanthate before and test prop but i retained water and didnt like the look.

so i really want to stay away from it.

can also get my hands on water based winstrol or tablets if thats any better?

what is masteron exactly is that an injectable version of proviron?
your not 8-10% if you can only see 4 of the 6 pack mate,you should see full pack and serratus at that %,remember the water retention thing will more be related to your diet than anything else,otherwise guys wouldnt use test all the way up till show day.

good advice from nytol :)
 

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oh rite, well thanks for putting me right.

i really am lost now.

i'm guessing this question pops up alot on here, but what would be the best lean building stack to go with?

so many people say so many different things, its hard to know which path to follow!
 

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this is what i've been following for the last 8 weeks?

BREAKFAST:

oats made from water with a spoon ful of jam for flavour, 1 banana, 40gr casein protein.

MID-MORNING:

whey protein

30gr of oat cakes

LUNCH;

Sweet potato

chicken breast

fish oil suppliment

MID-AFTERNOON:

whey protein

rice cakes

PRE TRAINING:

1 banana

20gr whey protien

POST TRAINING:

2 apples

50gr whey protein

DINNER:

chicken breast

brown rice

steamed green veg

fish oil suppliment

MID-EVENING:

Whey protein shake

BEFORE BED:

casien protein shake

30gr of oat cakes

hows that sound?
 

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even if you just add 50mg prop eod

I think a nice cycle for what you want would be

50mg prop eod

75mg tren eod

150mg mast eod

with all else in check you should look like grainite

could add 50-100mg ed winny or 20-30mg ed of halo . some will say to much but could be fun..lol
 
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