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Been reading this forum a while and I've been real impressed with wolverines (and others) results on the 'sticky' anavar thread so thinking about doing my first var cycle. Probably 6-8 weeks, with 3 week PCT of clomid/tamoxifen.

Just got a few queries questions that have sprung to mind that I'd like answering before I start.

Would running winny tabs along side it be beneficial or are they too similar? I know 2 orals aren't advisable due to the toxicity but wondered if there was another reason for it? Would be getting some liv52 before i started.

Probably the most important question I need answering. I'm currently into my 2nd month of GH: 4iu e/d Mon-Fri. Would adding anavar/winny be beneficial? detrimental? Would there be any effect on PCT combined with GH?

Also take zma, trib, multi-vits as standard.

If someone has the time to have a go at the post and give me any pointers, positive or negative, they'd be much appreciated.

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running winny and var together would be no probs imo ,there both a mild oral and will yeild nice lean gains ,i know people who run 100-200mgs anadrol every day for 6 weeks with no probs and anadrol is one of the most potent orals there is,but as above adding test into you plan would give you much better results
 

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I'm not looking to bulk up really, I'm already in half decent shape and weigh approx 100kg. Just looking to harden/rip up as I feel I've hit a stumbling block, that's why I'm considering the winny/var route.

Read on the sticky var thread about using proviron towards the end of the cycle, would this be overkill for me?

What're your thoughts with these and hgh?
 

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use proviron on pct as a small dose of around 40-50mgs per day will not effect your hpta and will not effect rull recovery ,this is how i would run hgh and var/winny

weeks 1-12 -4iu hgh per day

weeks 12-24 4iu hgh per day

weeks 17-24 50mgs winny ed

weeks 17-24 70mg var ed

2 days after last winny/var start pct

nolvadex-100/50/50/25

clomid -40/40/20/20

proviron -50/50/50/25
 

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poker face said:
use proviron on pct as a small dose of around 40-50mgs per day will not effect your hpta and will not effect rull recovery ,this is how i would run hgh and var/winny

weeks 1-12 -4iu hgh per day

weeks 12-24 4iu hgh per day

weeks 17-24 50mgs winny ed

weeks 17-24 70mg var ed

2 days after last winny/var start pct

nolvadex-100/50/50/25

clomid -40/40/20/20

proviron -50/50/50/25
Nice one, that's been a great help. Cheers
 

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poker face said:
use proviron on pct as a small dose of around 40-50mgs per day will not effect your hpta and will not effect rull recovery ,this is how i would run hgh and var/winny

weeks 1-12 -4iu hgh per day

weeks 12-24 4iu hgh per day

weeks 17-24 50mgs winny ed

weeks 17-24 70mg var ed

2 days after last winny/var start pct

nolvadex-100/50/50/25


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clomid -40/40/20/20

proviron -50/50/50/25
Maybe run pct:

clomid 150/100/50/50

nolva 20/20/20/20
 
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