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Have you tried declined DB press or dips? I'm not that best with training advice 🤣 but for me, I think decline DB press gives me a good pump and helps the isolation.
 

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Have you tried declined DB press or dips? I'm not that best with training advice 🤣 but for me, I think decline DB press gives me a good pump and helps the isolation.
I’ve tried all kinds of different variables dips admittedly not as much just because I feel like it puts my shoulders in an awkward position I just don’t think my chest was meant to be built haha my current focus is to try and gain some upper chest size to improve the look of my upper torso but my arms and shoulders in comparison just effect that
 

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It could be the picture, but if not, your shoulders look hunched. As in pulled forward by a tight chest or perhaps rhomboids and other back muscles not pulling your shoulders back like they should. If this is the case, then no wonder your shoulders are taking the brunt of it.
 

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It could be the picture, but if not, your shoulders look hunched. As in pulled forward by a tight chest or perhaps rhomboids and other back muscles not pulling your shoulders back like they should. If this is the case, then no wonder your shoulders are taking the brunt of it.
yah i know exactly what u mean, i dont know how to fix this though i do the usual for chest pulling shoulders back digging traps into bench but them last few reps i can almost always feel my front delt just take over, after this cycle i might do some posture work to try and pull them shoulders back
 

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back, bicep workout today which i was sceptical about as ive had some neck/upper trap pain the last few days, seems to have subsided abit, good workout overall did not try to push weight up to much because of injury but managed to put a little on in a few exercises,
 

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energy shot again this morning was up at midnight for a few hours, then got a hour sleep then hit the gym, for legs, very short workout of 100kg squats followed by 320kg leg press, necks still abit sore and it was very uncomfortable with the bar on my traps even with the cushion thing. pick up my caber from the post office today hoping that will lift my mood abit,
I'm currently 7.5 weeks into my test/deca cycle at 600/300 mg also shot 200mg of tren on Wednesday last week, I've not decided if I want to run test/deca/tren or drop the deca and run test/tren for the remainder of my course, I also considered dropping the 19nors and running at 500 test pw for the remainder of my course, I guess i'm waiting to see if the caber improves anything to make a decision on that,
sides wise, my labido improved a little but not a lot even with Cialis and pt141, while I can get an erection I'm not massively raging to ****, I had a huge problem being able to cum and was practically wanking the skin off my dick last week, the last few days I was able to finish though :D
Acne is present but only a couple of them look bad, Im trying to keep as clean as possible and applying benzoyl peroxide to effected areas,
mood has been good although I've had spikes of low energy and had signs of lower apetite although I'm still eating what i planned(almost forcing :D ) and have still gained weight
 

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I have no experience of using steroids, but for what it is worth, I would not bother with Tren even if I was using. It's a powerful substance that was designed for a specfic purpose.
 

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As Brian said above, I wouldn’t run a steroid made for horses personally unless i was really close to competing or in amazing shape , very experienced and needing the effects of Tren. Looking into all the stories personally put me off the stuff for now.

You mentioned acne too i have heard it can worsen it a ridiculous amount if you are already prone.
 

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Im going to drop both 19nors then :) stick with test e for remainder of course
I meant to suggest that in my original post, just use the Test. After though, I was going to remove my original post, as you do what you want mate, it's just I have read some stories of bad sides with tren, but what you do is your business. Just look at my post as a suggestion. Cheers.
 

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I think I might have one or two already I only injected a few days ago but had heartburn like mad today and struggling to eat my chicken rice and cheese 🤣although that could be down to me being off work for a week and not burning as many calories as normal
 

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I think I might have one or two already I only injected a few days ago but had heartburn like mad today and struggling to eat my chicken rice and cheese 🤣although that could be down to me being off work for a week and not burning as many calories as normal
Heartburn/acid definitely the first thing I noticed with tren. I'll not run it again. It's hard enough to pack the food down
 

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Heartburn/acid definitely the first thing I noticed with tren. I'll not run it again. It's hard enough to pack the food down
i did the shot 5 days ago though? can it really be that fast on enanthate for a side to show? ive been running test/deca with no issues, good apetite until today and well maybe yesterday to
 
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