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New data from Israel shows naturally acquired immunity is at least 670% more protective against Covid than "vaccine immunity"


"Coronavirus patients who recovered from the virus were far less likely to become infected during the latest wave of the pandemic than people who were vaccinated against COVID, according to numbers presented to the Israeli Health Ministry.

Health Ministry data on the wave of COVID outbreaks which began this May show that Israelis with immunity from natural infection were far less likely to become infected again in comparison to Israelis who only had immunity via vaccination.

Roughly 40% of new cases – or more than 3,000 patients – involved people who had been infected despite being vaccinated.

With a total of 835,792 Israelis known to have recovered from the virus, the 72 instances of reinfection amount to 0.0086% of people who were already infected with COVID.

By contrast, Israelis who were vaccinated were 6.72 times more likely to get infected after the shot than after natural infection, with over 3,000 of the 5,193,499, or 0.0578%, of Israelis who were vaccinated getting infected in the latest wave."

Natural infection vs vaccination: Which gives more protection? - Israel National News




Why are "we" still trying to ignore/downplay data re naturally acquired immunity?

These vaccines are no better (if as good) as the flu vaccine.
 

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What if our news said this which it has and Israel news was saying what our news is saying at the moment…would you have posted what our news is saying instead of what Israel news is saying.
 

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people who are vaccinated are generally more likely to "mingle" thus increasing chance of getting it......theres not enough data to make clear conclusions yet....only snippets which people twist for either side of the argument
 

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It's also worth noting that naturally acquired immunity is a MINIMUM of 670% more effective than the vaccine.

As the 72 instances of "reinfection" are in actuality "possible reinfections". There's a high probability that a large proportion of the 2nd positive tests were just picking up viral matter left over from the 1st infection.

"According to figures published by Public Health England (PHE), there have been 23,105 “possible reinfections” of Covid-19 in England up to 4 July 2021. PHE defines a possible reinfection as one person giving two positive tests “at least 90 days apart”.

These are not definite reinfections, however. PHE says: “For a possible reinfection to be categorised as confirmed it requires sequencing of a specimen at each episode and for the later specimen to be genetically distinct from that sequenced from the earlier episode.”

This is often not possible, however, since not all positive samples are genomically sequenced."

The above text is from a "fact checker" site, so you can be certain of it's veracity!
 

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people who are vaccinated are generally more likely to "mingle" thus increasing chance of getting it......theres not enough data to make clear conclusions yet....only snippets which people twist for either side of the argument
RE the bolded. So when infections are dropping or the "link" between infections and deaths/severe illness appears to have been broken, it's fine for the main stream to make claim after claim that this is clear evidence that the vaccine is working.

Completely disregarding any other variables/explanations like the virus may just be on a natural downward trajectory as we saw last summer with no vaccine and the virus basically flatlining or that the new variant may be more infectious but less deadly or even that treatments for the virus have evolved and are much better than at the start.

No, no, no .....It's all clear and unequivocal evidence that the vaccine is working miracles according to all the headlines and commentary.

But now when there is very good evidence (as above) that natural infection offers far and away more immunity than the vaccine, now we we need more data to draw any conclusions.

Yeh right. This is the BS we've seen/heard all along from the establishment/MSM.

Mark my words, these vaccines are no more effective than the flu vaccine at best. Naturally acquired immunity is on another planet.
 

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.... Do WE need the Vaccine or does the Vaccine need us?

Either way i dont give a f**k, Under my special rules i can only accept this vaccine if Boris cums up my backdoor, im sorry Boris rules are Rules.. No Condom either your ramming creature
 

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people who are vaccinated are generally more likely to "mingle" thus increasing chance of getting it......theres not enough data to make clear conclusions yet....only snippets which people twist for either side of the argument
Those who are vaccinated are carrying the Virus

Haaaaa wow science.. They inject them with virus but they dont have virus.. but they do when they jabbed... I view those who are vaccinated as 'Freaks' and 'Virus Freaks' coz they ONLY person that can give you it. They Jump on needle coz big china man had a dodgy bat
 

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What if our news said this which it has and Israel news was saying what our news is saying at the moment…would you have posted what our news is saying instead of what Israel news is saying.
Our "news" won't report on this because it doesn't fit the narrative - "natural immunity rubbish, vaccine miracle potion".

Like when every UK media outlet trotted up to Scotland to see the first vaccine recipient get the jab in a Scottish care home. Every single one of these then failed to report at all on the subsequent Covid outbreak that happened in that care home a short time after that.
 

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Our "news" won't report on this because it doesn't fit the narrative - "natural immunity rubbish, vaccine miracle potion".

Like when every UK media outlet trotted up to Scotland to see the first vaccine recipient get the jab in a Scottish care home. Every single one of these then failed to report at all on the subsequent Covid outbreak that happened in that care home a short time after that.
Why do you think that is Micheal?
 

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i did type a lengthy reply haha but ill sum it up instead... :LOL:

there is bullshit on both sides (y)
There is only one side. Anything that goes against the official narrative on any of this Covid BS is swiftly cancelled.


None of it makes any sense. For instance why are they saying that showing a negative test result is no longer good enough to get into a night club or sporting event but proof of vaccination is.

tens of thousands of fully vaccinated are testing positive daily. See UK figures for one day below

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With those stats in mind how can letting "vaccinated" people into a venue possibly be "safer" than people with a negative test????

None of it makes any sense, from sending tens of thousands of untested old people from hospital to care homes, to setting up field hospitals only to then say after built that there's no staff to man them. To completely ignoring the role of natural immunity, to trying to pretend proof of vaccination makes you a lower risk for onward transmission than a negative test......

And that's just the tip of iceberg .We can keep pretending all of this is just down to mind boggling incompetence/retardation from the "experts"....Or we can start to consider the very real possibility that there is more to all this bllx than meets the eye.

Why do you think that is Micheal?
Your guess is as good as mine!
 

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As much as I hate the "preachy vegan" way you say things....cant argue with them points. It's a whole load of shit (I'm unvaccinated btw)

Government incompetence has been a massive factor into getting us where we are.
 

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look at this... this what i mean bro.

They aint improving anything, any technology unless its got a money incentive behind it.

Oppo unveils next-gen under-display selfie camera technology

They created that... worked hard, long nights for this..... Just some BS feature to make you buy Their phone.

No Doubt Apple will buy it.. Then force you all to upgrade coz 'new security feature' needs that damn camera coz they want you all to buy it ... $$$


''Follow The Money''... Why you think Benzo, Musk and branson rich for?
 

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Fast approaching is the day a nuthouse claims this website to avoid paying for a URL
Yeh cos posting data coming directly from the Israeli government could only be the work of "nutcases" (if of course it also happens to fly in the face of the official vaccine/covid narrative)

Tin foil hatism at it's finest! This kind of "misinformation" needs stamping out!!
 
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