[a.notherguy]

do you guys rate these?

or should i just stick with dumbells (which can give me pain in one of my shoulders)

 

[gearchange]

If you get pain with dumbbells don't use the machine its worse because of limited movement.I learnt the hard way..

 

[a.notherguy]

If you get pain with dumbbells don't use the machine its worse because of limited movement.I learnt the hard way..

i would of thought that but the mechanics of the machine seem to feel really comfortable.

did you learn the hard way straight away was it long term?

 

[gearchange]

Had to take a month off shoulders.I tend to lift heavy and when I'm on the limit that slight movement i have using dumbbells allows me to compensate.

With the machine I had nowhere to go and so I pulled ligaments in my shoulder.

 

[a.notherguy]

right - i see where your coming from - its the fixed motion that caused you the prob.

i may try sticking with dumbells then blast a final high rep set on the machine.

 

[gearchange]

You got it mate..All the best

 

[a.notherguy]

cheers mate