So, adrenal fetigue, compromised lipid profiles as well as severe testicular atrophy are not solid reasoning, not to mention compromised ligiment and joints from heavy lifting?weeman said:the time on equals time off thing has largely been an internet fed phenomena over the years,there is no actual proper reasoning behind it,only here say,general opinion folk lore lol
:beer:hackskii said:So, adrenal fetigue, compromised lipid profiles as well as severe testicular atrophy are not solid reasoning, not to mention compromised ligiment and joints from heavy lifting?
Connective tissue depending on the gear does in fact get comrpomised.
There is good evidence for time off, unless you are on TRT.
Depth of supression at one point would make it very difficult for a full recovery.
no no no mate,you got me all wrong,i said the theory behind TIME ON EQUALS TIME OFF bares no weight,its a fad thing that bbers have decided on over the years.I do agree that everyone needs to come off,your health will pay the price one way or another if you dont,the things you point out above being among the many suffering factors.
Maintenance doses of TRT are around 100mg a week of cypionate, many do not follow this dose, but double that, over time this can further supress the HPTA.
I am working with a guy right now for recovery, he is comming around but we have done a second PCT and he is still on the low end.
Did you know it can take up to one year and even longer for full recovery?
yeah thats basically what i ment,hypothetically speaking one guy may fully recover in a few weeks whereas another coming off the same cycle could take a year to recover,what i was getting at was people luv to ajoin a fixed notion to what they are doing whilst ignorantly disregarding so many other variables.
Longest was 13 weeks, I have done smaller doses for 10 months and even at base values you still will get supression.thevoice said:Out of interest Scott, whats longest you have stayed on and how long did it take to recover(did you get blood work done also).