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it well documented on here over the years unfortunately but if I could get town to 3 pints I would be very happy. I’m about to sleep now as I’ve work in 7 hours and I’ve had 7 Stella tonight which is one more than normal. Just the standard 500ml cans. There are days sometimes I’ll have 4 equally days with no work the following day I’ll have 12-16 cans.
Thankfully I work nights the odd time which gives my liver a break.
Been there Tricky, but have reduced it now, not been out all week but had 5 pints today.

Always have something to eat before or after drinking Tricky, any damage is caused with drinking and not eating.
 

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Curious what you mean go crashing down? Compared to what? Being sober with say a PM then drinking 5-6 days a week for a year you think lifts will go crashing down? I’m not saying drinking is the road to success. Certainly not but for some of us it’s part of life. That said I work full time and workout and I can tell you some lifts have had 57.5kg on the total 1rm the last year that’s with drinking 5/6 days a week min of 4 beer a day.
Have to agree. I drank 4 Stella cans a day, when I was not in the pub, for more than a year too, soon as I got home from work, so I know what you are saying.
 

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I've drunk a bottle of malbek that I found then I drank 9 beers, and I just ate a pop noodle. I also lifted 15kg dbs ealier... just thought you'd like to know
 

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Curious what you mean go crashing down? Compared to what? Being sober with say a PM then drinking 5-6 days a week for a year you think lifts will go crashing down? I’m not saying drinking is the road to success. Certainly not but for some of us it’s part of life. That said I work full time and workout and I can tell you some lifts have had 57.5kg on the total 1rm the last year that’s with drinking 5/6 days a week min of 4 beer a day.
That’s from my experience. At times I drink a litre of 40% alcohol in a night
 

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That’s from my experience. At times I drink a litre of 40% alcohol in a night
Yes quite often I’ll drink a 70cl bottle of gin a few times a week on top of the beer but my lifts certainly don’t go down. I’m not saying it’s good for me I wish I could cut down to say even 2-3 beer a day I would be happy but my off days with no work the following day I always drink until the small hours. Something I’m trying to curb and hopefully will
 

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Tricky: On top of this massive consumption you juice as well??? And your physique, is it very good? Curious...
 

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Tricky: On top of this massive consumption you juice as well??? And your physique, is it very good? Curious...
i take 200mg test year round and 5mg cialis daily that’s it. I’m average at best. I don’t follow a bodybuilding routine for mass or eat in a surplus for it either. I train in a CrossFit gym 3 workouts a week mainly some kind of snatch complex or jerk variant with 1 day a week where I’ll strict shoulder press, deadlift and bench
 

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Yes quite often I’ll drink a 70cl bottle of gin a few times a week on top of the beer but my lifts certainly don’t go down. I’m not saying it’s good for me I wish I could cut down to say even 2-3 beer a day I would be happy but my off days with no work the following day I always drink until the small hours. Something I’m trying to curb and hopefully will
I’m managing to be sober for a week at times at the moment but then withdrawals like head pain and fatigue and tiredness gets to much and I end up drinking
 

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i take 200mg test year round and 5mg cialis daily that’s it. I’m average at best. I don’t follow a bodybuilding routine for mass or eat in a surplus for it either. I train in a CrossFit gym 3 workouts a week mainly some kind of snatch complex or jerk variant with 1 day a week where I’ll strict shoulder press, deadlift and bench
I'm guessing that's a huge strain on your liver but I'm no expert. Thanks for your candour
 

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Yes quite often I’ll drink a 70cl bottle of gin a few times a week on top of the beer but my lifts certainly don’t go down. I’m not saying it’s good for me I wish I could cut down to say even 2-3 beer a day I would be happy but my off days with no work the following day I always drink until the small hours. Something I’m trying to curb and hopefully will
I didn't do the "shorts" but like you on off days, if I was not out, it would be at least 10 cans of Stella. I hope you can curb it somewhat Tricky, I did and it was not too hard, just willpower I think. You could cut down gradually and have a reason to do it like your training, or like me I wanted my beer belly off. It was only a few inches but it was gone in 4 months at the gym!
 

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I didn't do the "shorts" but like you on off days, if I was not out, it would be at least 10 cans of Stella. I hope you can curb it somewhat Tricky, I did and it was not too hard, just willpower I think. You could cut down gradually and have a reason to do it like your training, or like me I wanted my beer belly off. It was only a few inches but it was gone in 4 months at the gym!
did you go tee total? Don’t think I could. I enjoy to relax with a cold can after a long day. If I could get down to say 2-3 cans a day that would be great. Don’t get me wrong some days a week I won’t drink at all some weeks could be 3 days sober others 1-2
 

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I didn't stop in total but as I stated previously I did give up the heavy sessions. With lockdown, I didn't drink at all when the pubs were shut. This is being honest, especially the last pub closure, which was for near 6 months. My resistance to alcohol has waned, I knew it would, as I once worked on bars and know about alcohol. I was never a lager drinker until a few years ago so I've gone back to an old favourite Newcastle Brown Ale. Once I could drink 10 or more of them, now I feel that's it at 5. Being honest, I'm a shadow of my former self on drink, not given it up but like you I can leave it now for days to weeks but still like a few at times. Think this is the best way to describe me now. I have drunk a lot of beer in my time and it's my age too that made me reduce it.

Just reduce the quantity Tricky, you can do it I know. I did!
 

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OK, obviously we know the best approach in paring alcohol and training is simply committing to sobriety. But, the reality is that we are social beings and sometimes we choose to drink because it's fun and, like it or not, it comes with the social turf.
My question is, how do you all incorporate alcohol and the social scene into your training-driven lives? Tutuapp 9Apps
If I'm drinking, I'll try and make sure its a non-lifting day, or space out my alcohol as far away from my last lift as possible. I'll also shift my carb intake so that I'm consuming the majority earlier in the day, as well as cut down my fat intake for the day, replacing the excess macros with protein before and after drinking and bed to help combat the adverse effects. I'll use calorie-free mixers (diet soda, crystal light, etc.), take shots, or drink light beers. Obviously if training for an upcoming show I will not drink
 

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OK, obviously we know the best approach in paring alcohol and training is simply committing to sobriety. But, the reality is that we are social beings and sometimes we choose to drink because it's fun and, like it or not, it comes with the social turf.
My question is, how do you all incorporate alcohol and the social scene into your training-driven lives?
If I'm drinking, I'll try and make sure its a non-lifting day, or space out my alcohol as far away from my last lift as possible. I'll also shift my carb intake so that I'm consuming the majority earlier in the day, as well as cut down my fat intake for the day, replacing the excess macros with protein before and after drinking and bed to help combat the adverse effects. I'll use calorie-free mixers (diet soda, crystal light, etc.), take shots, or drink light beers. Obviously if training for an upcoming show I will not drink
I just drink personally, when I want too. Too much thought into the above unless you’re planning on competing.
 

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I'd be interested in statistics re reasonably fit/ strong guys and how alcohol slightly above moderation actually affects lifespan/ quality of life. I guess as so many variables are involved it's how long a piece of string is. I can't help thinking that a guy who maintains strength and fitness will offset many of the adverse affects of alcohol; indeed if the alcohol consumption was too high surely it would render that very man incapable of keeping so fit?

But as we're talking that piece of string analogy and touching re AAS, I've read many times that a juicer who abstains from alcohol will invariably live around the same number of years as a mere mortal. Quite how that works when they don't abstain I have absolutely no idea as I suspect it's mainly this generation who would indeed do both, as 'in the day' steroids weren't so readily available and only used by fanatics who'd never touch alcohol?...
 

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I just drink personally, when I want too. Too much thought into the above unless you’re planning on competing.
Pretty much this.

If and when I decide to drink, then I don't plan my life/diet/training to accommodate the booze.

If I have a hangover the next day then I won't bother training and eat more comforting foods.
If I feel OK, I'll probably train and eat more BB style diet

After all, training is a hobby and not my main life focus and source of income
 
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