stargazer

It doesn't really exhibit those effects in western males, hence the program starting and stopping very quickly, this was back in the 70's/80's, it does however exhibit those effects in Asian males and was used with quite a high success rate in China.

Exactly mate, and fcuk knows what @Stroudyo problem is, but the pr1ck with the attitude and nothing but sh1t to say is now on my ignore list .

I love how there's no attempt to answer the question just be a mouth piece instead.
Not everyone is in a position to buy it all at once....so instead of being judgemental and acting like your above people because your never f**ked up on cycle why not try offer a bit of help or advice that could be useful...instead of trying to rack up the old post count ???.
When I go on cycle I have my pct and stuff ready to go incase I ever have to come off for any reason but I order as much gear as I can then top up every pay day it's never been a problem in the past it usually comes within 2 days IV never not had any... this time its not came and I'm in a sticky situation and wondering what to do stop or just crack on as normal it will be a full week of missed injections.
Big shout out to @TERBO who actually answered the question

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Thanks mate great info! 

Great knowledge @stargazer.
Thanks for that mate

Yes.
Here is part of an article i wrote about 10 years ago on hCG.
hCG use and the P450 cytochrome:
Firstly a little basic info on the P450 enzyme and why hCG use on cycle is extremely beneficial:
The CYP450 (cytochrome P450) enzyme system is a key pathway for drug metabolism.
Many lipophilic drugs must undergo biotransformation to more hydrophilic compounds to be excreted from the body.
The majority of drugs undergo phase I metabolism (e.g., oxidation, reduction) by CYP450 enzymes,
this is especially indicative of anabolic androgenic steroids and endogenous steroid hormones.
We all know the importance of incorporating hCG into our cycle, this is just another good reason to use hCG.
In laymans terms hCG increases the dynamics of CYP450 which in turn increases the rate at which drugs can be metabolized,
which in turn increases protein dynamics.
Basically by the action of hCG on P450 dynamics it also increases pregnenolone which
is the precursor for all other steroid hormones and has many benefits,
one of which is that it serves to keep/restore a natural hormonal balance within this key pathway even if the HPTA is suppressed,
it also has energizing, anti-stress benefits, elevates mood through the raising of NDMA activity and reduces excess Cortisol,
so if we can increase this steroid hormone with the use of hCG, we should.

Yes.
Here is part of an article i wrote about 10 years ago on hCG.
hCG use and the P450 cytochrome:
Firstly a little basic info on the P450 enzyme and why hCG use on cycle is extremely beneficial:
The CYP450 (cytochrome P450) enzyme system is a key pathway for drug metabolism.
Many lipophilic drugs must undergo biotransformation to more hydrophilic compounds to be excreted from the body.
The majority of drugs undergo phase I metabolism (e.g., oxidation, reduction) by CYP450 enzymes,
this is especially indicative of anabolic androgenic steroids and endogenous steroid hormones.
We all know the importance of incorporating hCG into our cycle, this is just another good reason to use hCG.
In laymans terms hCG increases the dynamics of CYP450 which in turn increases the rate at which drugs can be metabolized,
which in turn increases protein dynamics.
Basically by the action of hCG on P450 dynamics it also increases pregnenolone which
is the precursor for all other steroid hormones and has many benefits,
one of which is that it serves to keep/restore a natural hormonal balance within this key pathway even if the HPTA is suppressed,
it also has energizing, anti-stress benefits, elevates mood through the raising of NDMA activity and reduces excess Cortisol,
so if we can increase this steroid hormone with the use of hCG, we should.

Yes.
Here is part of an article i wrote about 10 years ago on hCG.
hCG use and the P450 cytochrome:
Firstly a little basic info on the P450 enzyme and why hCG use on cycle is extremely beneficial:
The CYP450 (cytochrome P450) enzyme system is a key pathway for drug metabolism.
Many lipophilic drugs must undergo biotransformation to more hydrophilic compounds to be excreted from the body.
The majority of drugs undergo phase I metabolism (e.g., oxidation, reduction) by CYP450 enzymes,
this is especially indicative of anabolic androgenic steroids and endogenous steroid hormones.
We all know the importance of incorporating hCG into our cycle, this is just another good reason to use hCG.
In laymans terms hCG increases the dynamics of CYP450 which in turn increases the rate at which drugs can be metabolized,
which in turn increases protein dynamics.
Basically by the action of hCG on P450 dynamics it also increases pregnenolone which
is the precursor for all other steroid hormones and has many benefits,
one of which is that it serves to keep/restore a natural hormonal balance within this key pathway even if the HPTA is suppressed,
it also has energizing, anti-stress benefits, elevates mood through the raising of NDMA activity and reduces excess Cortisol,
so if we can increase this steroid hormone with the use of hCG, we should.

Yes.
Here is part of an article i wrote about 10 years ago on hCG.
hCG use and the P450 cytochrome:
Firstly a little basic info on the P450 enzyme and why hCG use on cycle is extremely beneficial:
The CYP450 (cytochrome P450) enzyme system is a key pathway for drug metabolism.
Many lipophilic drugs must undergo biotransformation to more hydrophilic compounds to be excreted from the body.
The majority of drugs undergo phase I metabolism (e.g., oxidation, reduction) by CYP450 enzymes,
this is especially indicative of anabolic androgenic steroids and endogenous steroid hormones.
We all know the importance of incorporating hCG into our cycle, this is just another good reason to use hCG.
In laymans terms hCG increases the dynamics of CYP450 which in turn increases the rate at which drugs can be metabolized,
which in turn increases protein dynamics.
Basically by the action of hCG on P450 dynamics it also increases pregnenolone which
is the precursor for all other steroid hormones and has many benefits,
one of which is that it serves to keep/restore a natural hormonal balance within this key pathway even if the HPTA is suppressed,
it also has energizing, anti-stress benefits, elevates mood through the raising of NDMA activity and reduces excess Cortisol,
so if we can increase this steroid hormone with the use of hCG, we should.

Yes.
Here is part of an article i wrote about 10 years ago on hCG.
hCG use and the P450 cytochrome:
Firstly a little basic info on the P450 enzyme and why hCG use on cycle is extremely beneficial:
The CYP450 (cytochrome P450) enzyme system is a key pathway for drug metabolism.
Many lipophilic drugs must undergo biotransformation to more hydrophilic compounds to be excreted from the body.
The majority of drugs undergo phase I metabolism (e.g., oxidation, reduction) by CYP450 enzymes,
this is especially indicative of anabolic androgenic steroids and endogenous steroid hormones.
We all know the importance of incorporating hCG into our cycle, this is just another good reason to use hCG.
In laymans terms hCG increases the dynamics of CYP450 which in turn increases the rate at which drugs can be metabolized,
which in turn increases protein dynamics.
Basically by the action of hCG on P450 dynamics it also increases pregnenolone which
is the precursor for all other steroid hormones and has many benefits,
one of which is that it serves to keep/restore a natural hormonal balance within this key pathway even if the HPTA is suppressed,
it also has energizing, anti-stress benefits, elevates mood through the raising of NDMA activity and reduces excess Cortisol,
so if we can increase this steroid hormone with the use of hCG, we should.

 
Damn, this started off well, i thought i was going to have good read then it all turned to this crap.
No one is making any comparisons, it was an observation by stuey. 
Stop talking out of your ar5e mate, you make a Sun journalist look like a real journalist .

There is a lot more to hcg than just faster recovery and fuller nuts.
 

It can, if you do get any symptoms take nolva @ 20mg not an AI.

Yep, tried a few of their bits, all good.

Iv'e used tubs and tubs of their dbol over the years and always been happy with it.

So what is the point of thread!

So what is the point of thread!

This, ^^^^.
When i took a forced break after a few years B&C it was 14wks before i started to feel the effects of being shutdown.

Nolvadex is a SERM, it doesn't stop estrogen levels rising, it stops estrogen from binding to certain receptors, hence Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator.
 

It PROVES the guy recovered from one cycle with no PCT,  but we don't need proof, we all know that if one can recover then it will happen with or without PCT.
I'm not convinced it PROVES PCT is bollocks though because you are bordering on that well known psuedo negative "you can't prove a negative" per se.
PCT does help some guys and all the anecdotal evidence points to this, how it helps or it's interpretation is open to debate, but there is no denying the evidence is there.

It PROVES the guy recovered from one cycle with no PCT,  but we don't need proof, we all know that if one can recover then it will happen with or without PCT.
I'm not convinced it PROVES PCT is bollocks though because you are bordering on that well known psuedo negative "you can't prove a negative" per se.
PCT does help some guys and all the anecdotal evidence points to this, how it helps or it's interpretation is open to debate, but there is no denying the evidence is there.

This, ^^^^.
When i took a forced break after a few years B&C it was 14wks before i started to feel the effects of being shutdown.

The pharmacodynamics are that, Tamoxifen can reduce serum concentrations of Anastrozole, 
however, in all the relevant studies this has little to no effect on Anastrozoles ability to reduce estrogen, 
so basically it is perfectly ok to use them together if needs be without being concerned
that you won't get the full effect of the Anastrozole.
Thus, in the on-going adjuvant trial, one can be assured that for patients randomized to combined therapy, 
full-dose tamoxifen will be received. In addition, the oestradiol suppressant effects of anastrozole appear to be 
unaffected by tamoxifen. If tamoxifen has any effect on anastrozole blood levels, 
such an interaction is clearly insufficient to reduce the oestradiol suppressive effects of anastrozole.

The pharmacodynamics are that, Tamoxifen can reduce serum concentrations of Anastrozole, 
however, in all the relevant studies this has little to no effect on Anastrozoles ability to reduce estrogen, 
so basically it is perfectly ok to use them together if needs be without being concerned
that you won't get the full effect of the Anastrozole.
Thus, in the on-going adjuvant trial, one can be assured that for patients randomized to combined therapy, 
full-dose tamoxifen will be received. In addition, the oestradiol suppressant effects of anastrozole appear to be 
unaffected by tamoxifen. If tamoxifen has any effect on anastrozole blood levels, 
such an interaction is clearly insufficient to reduce the oestradiol suppressive effects of anastrozole.