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    swole troll got a reaction from gymaddict1986 in Swole Troll's anabolic lockdown rebound   
    Yea I mean in fairness my body has gone through a major adjustment. 
    I've put on 10lb in 12 days and essentially have congestive heart failure. 
    Strength starting to climb now though 
    Just need to adjust to being much heavier much quicker than normal.
    Love the pull over machine, it's one of very few exercises that train the lat through its entire ROM.
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    swole troll reacted to gymaddict1986 in Swole Troll's anabolic lockdown rebound   
    All have our bad days , lack of sleep would do it !  
    bet you will smash next deadlift session, nothing like a bad day to get you motivated for the next  .  I see you use the pull over machine , hard to find those in gyms these days , I love them . Very old school 
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    swole troll got a reaction from BelfastMuscle in Creating your own program... It's not that difficult   
    Right so this will be a lengthy one but this is a lengthy topic

    in this guide I'm going to go over some basic programming information for a 'powerbuilding or hypertrophy specific' approach.

    Now you cannot exclusively train for either size or strength to any notable degree hence I included powerbuilding as I'm not going to write out a more complicated powerlifting approach as that is a topic in it's own right so instead I'm going to go over some guidelines for those looking to get bigger and stronger

    firstly let's discuss the principles

    Frequency: the amount of times in a week you stimulate or train a muscle into protein synthesis / the adaptive response to progressive weight training, some like a high frequency approach due to the argument of muscle protein synthesis only lasting for 48hrs at most in natural trainees meaning that if you bench on Monday by Wednesday evening your pecs and triceps have gone through the full adaptive process and are back to baseline ready to be stimulated again.

    Now most might conclude from this that it would make the most sense to train as frequently as possible in that case assuming the goal is purely hypertrophy (strength training has a more CNS adaptive and fatigue based response dependent on intensity) however there are several reasons why one might choose not to including motivation to train the same body part multiple times per week, tendons take a longer time to recovery than the more vascular muscle tissue, in the enhanced muscle protein synthesis is elevated round the clock, getting a better mind to muscle connection with higher sessionly volume due to pump and lactate build up 

    which leads me onto my next topic 

    Volume: this is the amount of work you do for a given body part, for instance 30 sets of chest work by way of 3 sets of 10 different exercises or just 30 sets of the same exercise and anything in between is the training volume, programs oriented toward hypertrophy largely differ by their weekly volume distribution (we'll touch on this more later)

    volume requirements generally differ for different body parts, a very crude rule of thumb to keep in mind is generally a larger muscle will respond well to higher volume whereas a smaller muscle will respond better to less volume but more frequency

    think a lower body session hitting nine sets for quads twice per week for a total of eighteen total sets vs bicep curls for three sets, three times per week for a total of nine sets 

    many will argue training volume to be the primary driver of hypertrophy, I firmly disagree with this and would instead put a bigger emphasis on progressive overload 

    which leads me to the next point

    Progressive overload: the process of increasing the total tonnage lifted per week, to put it simply doing more weight on an exercise for the same reps you did last time or doing more reps with the same weight that you did last time.

    I believe mechanical tension to be the easiest, most measurable and effective form of building size and strength, this is why many beginner programs seem more (wrongfully labeled) powerlifting based with a 5x5 approach on some core compound movements multiple times per week focusing on a session by session increase in weight.

    As you become more advanced this becomes more difficult so you need to be a bit more instinctual and reactive to your training rather than focusing on what the beginner should be which is a big drive on ALL pathways of growth; high volume, high frequency, progressive overload and high intensity

    which leads me onto my final point 

    Intensity: the percentage of your 1 rep max, constantly misunderstood as 'train really really hard' by the misinformed

    if your max bench press is 100kg, that is you are only able to hit a single rep with 100kg then bench pressing 80kg is an intensity of 80%, you don't need to be overly concerned with intensity as someone not looking to compete in strength sports or simply pushing their strength to the max as there is many paths to the same destination of hypertrophy and therefor you can ease off the gas of one as another becomes exhausted.

    Think a heavy block of training, deload and then a block of higher rep, shorter rest period metabolic work,
    since your soul goal isn't to get stronger you don't need to be so tightly tied to the fatigue management of intensity. 


    Above is some of the different principles of muscle building, apply them knowing that each has an energy debt from your energy reserve, the newer to training you are, the weaker you are which means overall intensity is lowered and therefor you can push the other variables since intensity is the biggest cost of recovery 

    a one rep max is as intense as you can train by definition and this would quickly lead to regression, burn out and or injury 

    so with that out the way lets lay out some popular templates and describe how each program utilizes different variables and why 


    Full body training

    this approach is favored by beginners for the reasons I mentioned above, the strength level is lower therefor volume, frequency and progressive overload can be pushed whereas more advanced lifters may struggle without some complex periodization that I'm not going to get into in this article as we're then trickling down the powerlifting programming route which I'm not covering ITT 

    so how might one lay out a full body program

    well I'm only templating here so I'm going to use stronglifts as I believe this to be about as optimal as you can get for a rank novice trainee irrelevant of long term goal 

    workout A
    squat 5x5, bench 5x5, row 5x5 
    workout B 
    squat 5x5, overhead press 5x5, deadlift 1x5 

    following a two weekly A, off, B, off, A, off, off, B, off, A, off, B, off, off, repeat approach 

    nice and simple, aiming to add 2.5kg to each lift as you successfully hit 5 sets of 5 repetitions, if you fail a weight three times you deload the weight by 10% on your next session and build back up.

    Upper Lower

    this approach can be utilized by the late beginner all the way up to the early advanced lifter, it uses a twice weekly frequency as opposed to the full body three times weekly frequency therefor there is a larger period of time for CNS and connective tissue recovery 

    a simple template could be 

    Upper; bench press 4x8-12, row 4x8-12, overhead press 4x8-12, pull ups 4x8-12, tricep extensions 2x10-15, bicep curls 2x10-15
    Lower; squat 4x8-12, romanian deadlift 4x8-12, leg press 4x8-12, leg curl 4x8-12, calf raise 2x10-15, cable crunches 2x10-15

    you would typically perform 2 days on, 1 day off, 2 days on, 2 days off 
    you could of course have an upper A and an upper B with the same 2 variants for Lower to offer some more diversity / exercise selection in the program

    essentially the layout is just making sure to cover a vertical push, vertical pull, horizontal push, horizontal pull, arm extensions and arm flexion and two quad movements, two hamstring movements, an abdominal exercise and a calf exercise.

    Push, Pull, Legs 

    for the slightly more late intermediate to early advanced, this follows a 6x per week frequency per month vs the 8x per week frequency of an upper lower 
    some program this as 3 days on, 1 day off, 3 days on, 1 day off however for anyone of any appreciable level of strength this approach will require frequent deloads otherwise you risk overtraining and or overuse injuries 

    a template could be

    Push; bench press 3x6-8, chest press 3x10-12, overhead press 3x6-8, machine shoulder press 3x10-12, chest fly supersetted with side laterals 4x10-15, tricep extensions 4x10-15
    Pull; barbell row 3x6-8, chest supported row 3x10-12, weight pull ups 3x6-8, close grip lat pulldown 3x10-12, rear delt fly supersetted with shrugs 4x10-15, bicep curls 4x10-15
    Legs squat; 3x6-8, romanian deadlift 3x10-12, lunges 3x6-8, laying leg curls 3x10-12, leg extensions supersetted with leg curls 4x10-15, hanging leg raises 4x10-15

    as mentioned above you could either do a 2 on 1 off approach similar to the upper lower rotating through push, pull, legs or you can do a constant 1 on 1 off approach 

    Body part split 

    for the late intermediate to the late advanced, this follows a once per week frequency allowing for maximal recovery of central nervous system, connective tissue and muscles. if you take this approach too soon in your training career you are absolutely leaving weekly progress on the table as irrelevant of volume (baring injury) you WILL be ready to hit a muscle again sooner than once every 7 days 

    a template could be

    Chest and triceps: incline bench 5x5, dumbbell bench 4x8-12, chest press 4x8-12, cable fly 4x15-20, dips 3x8-12, tricep extensions 3x15-20
    Back and biceps: Barbell row 5x5, weighted underhand pullups 4x8-12, wide grip lat pulldown 4x8-12, cable low row 4x15-20, barbell curls 3x8-12, dumbell preacher curls 3x15-20
    Shoulders: overhead press 5x5, dumbbell seated shoulder press 4x8-12, shoulder press machine 4x8-12, rear delt fly 4x15-20, side laterals 3x8-12, shrugs 3x15-20
    Legs and abs: squat 5x5, glute ham raise 4x8-12, leg press 4x8-12, leg extension 4x15-20, leg curl 4x15-20, cable rope crunches 3x15-20

    you would then do a 5th day of calf, ab and arm top up training since frequency is so low and these are such small muscles you can train more days per week and these muscles with a higher frequency. 

    The idea with this approach being to demolish a muscle group to your full ability and then focusing on rest and recovery leaving you completely fresh and ready to train that muscle again 7 days later with a much lower risk of CNS fatigue, overuse injury and mental drive to train.


    now bare in mind these are all just templates and you can of course jumble them up with rep ranges, frequency, intensity and exercise selection in fact I encourage you to based on your individual needs and restrictions 

    for instance a routine I often default back to is 

    Bench, chest and tris, Rowing movements for back and bis
    Squats, quads and core work
    Off
    Military press, shoulders and tris, Vertical pulls for back and bis
    Deadlift, Hamstrings and core work
    Off
    Off 

    as my legs take much longer to recover being bigger and stronger proportionately to my upper body musculature I need a full weeks rest in order to get the most out of my quad or hamstring training whereas my pecs and lats are ready to go much sooner 

    which leads me to my closing points 

    you should train to the highest frequency you are able to recover and progress on as this will net you the fastest long term progress.
    advanced program does not mean advanced results and in most cases it means slower or inferior results if the program design is not matched to your level of development 

    ie a beginner will be leaving progress on the table by performing exercises for a muscle group just once per week whereas an advanced lifter will burn out with injury and fatigue trying to perform an exercise for a muscle group three times per week (again unless carefully periodized) 

    right I think that about wraps it up
    please fire away below with any questions or help with program design 
     
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    swole troll got a reaction from Alex12340 in Swole Troll's anabolic lockdown rebound   
    13/05/21 
    Deadlift 190kg 5x3
    Chest supp t bar row 45kg x10, 35kg x11
    Chest supp high iso row x6, x9
    Bent over dual DB row x8, x11
    Wide grip lat pulldown x14, x12
    Chest supp row x10, x12 
    Pullover machine x15
    LISS x15mins 
    Deadlifts felt dreadful during warm ups so capped it at 190 and just worked on technique. 
    Everything else was spot on, really connected with the back on everything, lats engorged in blood.
    I'll take this wo as slept appalling last night, ended up working into the night and couldn't unwind. 
    Also got some sort of gum / tooth ache but over a broad area, I'm guessing gingivitis but no visible swelling or discoloration and I have tip top oral hygiene being a heavy coffee drinker kind of have to. 
    Hopefully be able to get into the dentist although that's been a headache since all this covid malarkey.
    Here's to hoping..
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    swole troll got a reaction from shredcity in Need a boost - any suggestions?   
    Coffee. 

    Your whole post screams this to me. 

    Take whatever money you were going to spend on peptides and spend it on a quality bean and enjoy yourself a nice large cup of black coffee. 

    You'll be productive, motivated and it will increase your performance in the gym and overall health all whilst being a delicious beverage. 
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    swole troll got a reaction from shredcity in Need a boost - any suggestions?   
    Coffee. 

    Your whole post screams this to me. 

    Take whatever money you were going to spend on peptides and spend it on a quality bean and enjoy yourself a nice large cup of black coffee. 

    You'll be productive, motivated and it will increase your performance in the gym and overall health all whilst being a delicious beverage. 
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    swole troll got a reaction from Jaling in Performance enhancing drug discussion: Clenbuterol   
    right so clen gets a bit of a bad wrap and MAYBE for good reason 

    compounds that accelerate the heart rate combined with a life style conducive to cardiac remodeling (ventricular hypertrophy) is probably not a great combination however you could argue the same for using gear period so again it's all risk vs reward as I'm constantly saying 

    that said I personally don't like the higher doses of clen as it does not fit into my personal risk vs reward of a little extra thermic effect for a whole lot more sides

    this typically results in me going no higher that 80mcg as my top dose and I will slowly titrate up to this in a 20mcg per week fashion as needed

    I say as needed in regards to sides as although clen doesn't need to exhibit sides for it to be working it is the gauge I use before increasing the dose quite simply because the sides suck 

    pros:

    * increase in BMR, nothing ground breaking as such but an extra  300-400 kcal taken from your energy balance is considerable when down into the two thousands per day 

    * increase in strength, I've trialed this over and over and I get a significant strength boost from clen and not just a direct results of the energy it gives but as well it increases your muscles ability to contract harder and I've noticed on several occasions that I have gotten stronger during a cut because of this 

    * appetite suppression, kind of a given with most stims, nothing major like sibutramine (in those that respond to it) but definitely takes the edge off a touch 

    * kind of ties in with the first point but as an ace to play in a cut i do find adding clen will kick start fat loss more so than simply dropping the same equivalent number of calories from your daily allowance as it does have a direct effect on the fat cells (release of FFA, not to the same extent as yohimbine) 

    cons:

    * increase in anxiety and paranoia

    *insomnia if taken too late in the day (can happen even with an AM only dosing) 

    * increase in heart rate to worrying levels if overdose occurs 

    * cold sweats

    * uncontrollable shaking, this can get REALLY bad, especially in the hands, I've been at the point where I can barely write in the past

    * breathlessness, you almost feel as though you cant get the air in and out fast enough

    * potential for cardiac necrosis     https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1831534/

    * muscle cramps, this can be comically debilitating 




    just to go into those sides a little more and how to offset them 

    the anxiety is part of the territory with stims for some people unfortunately so its just a case of get on or get off the drug 

    increased heart rate to uncomfortable levels you can handle by slow titration of 20mg per week increases as needed (once sides become tolerable), removing caffeine entirely during the titration phase and SLOWLY reintroducing as there is a definite stimulatory synergy and find then stay at your terminal dose that you are comfortable with taking in regard to the potential CV effects

    the  shaking and cold sweats you just need to adjust to your dosing and they will pass, same for the breathlessness and insomnia 

    cardiac necrosis, can't comment, don't know enough to say anything conclusively based on what I've read but as with any PEDs don't take the piss would be a good start 

    muscle cramps you need to stay hydrated, consume plenty of potassium (this will also play into the ill effect on cardiac health as clen starves the heart of potassium) and 5g of taurine daily for duration of usage 

    these cramps are no joke, you'll get cramps in places you never have in your life and at times it is like being tortured 
    as an example one day I clambered out of my car and my hamstring started to cramp violently so to stop this I locked my knee and pushed my glutes backward which caused my abs to cramp 

    so I hyper extended my back to relieve the abs which caused the other end of my hamstring to cramp so I bent forward to release it and the other end cramped 

    my wife was with me at the time and just walked off fed up of me twisting around screaming and shouting like I was being possessed in the middle of an Argo's car park with passer bys looking at me like I was totally insane 

    moral of the story; take your taurine! no exceptions 
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    swole troll reacted to godsgifttoearth in How to prevent gyno and still enjoy having good estrogen levels   
    maybe im getting the wrong end of the stick with what you said, sorry if that is the case.
    i don't think we fully understand everything involved with those pathways as they all tend to interact with each other anywhere between weak to strong crosstalk.
    my current understanding.
    AI's in general do not affect lipids or provide some downward tilt. the best evidence we have of this is in postmenopausal women, where ai's can be taken and they do nothing to lipids but if a SERM is taken it can improve them. [1] commonly accepted explanation is that e2 is what is protective of lipids and if you've got none or very low, adding the AI doesn't do much as you ultimately go for next to zero to 0. adding in the SERM which still acts as e2 in some tissue improves them.
    "In conclusion, an increase of serum cholesterol, lipoprotein(a), C-reactive protein and fibrinogen in patients after the therapy with aromatase inhibitors seems to be associated with the withdrawal of tamoxifen rather than to reflect the direct effect of aromatase inhibitors"
    when it comes to aromasin vs say arimidex, any difference in lipids will likely come down to the cellular signalling between steroidal and non-steroidal compounds and/or one dropping e2 far low than the other. [2]
    "This trial showed that a significantly higher cumulative incidence of lipid events occurred in the nonsteroidal AI group than in the steroidal AI group".
    based on my blood work, if i am taking testosterone only, if i keep my e2 at the same relative level with total androgen load from T being under 800mg, my lipids stay about the same. if i go over a certain amount of test my lipids dive regardless. 300 no AI is the same as 600 with a little AI to stay around 30 for e2.
    Either way, i think as a community these discussions need to be had more and we need to try stuff as AI's and SERM's get avoided because of some information that i don't think is correct. Then you're running into issues stemming from high e2 and androgen loads like rampant prostate growth, potential gyno, rampant LVH due to blood pressure, kidney damage due to BP. Popping ancillaries for BP isn't frowned upon but as soon as someone mentions taking some arimidex you get 2 tribes going to war!
    [1] https://ar.iiarjournals.org/content/29/8/3337
    [2] https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1758835920925991
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    swole troll got a reaction from Jaling in How long to use clen   
    i actually spoke to someone about this recently

    it'll work as the fast is the most important part in terms of it 'working' but youd probably want to remain fasted for longer and just allow the NEAT to use up the released FFA 

    even if you can bang in a 20min power walk after your dose and then fast for another couple hrs it would make a significant difference to just taking it and fasting say 4-6hrs which is what id advise if you are just going to be sedentary post consumption 
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    swole troll got a reaction from MarkRippetoe in 12 weeks bulking with Trenbolone   
    Disappointed at the lack of hip drive ITT.
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    swole troll got a reaction from Rhinoceros in Is there any real evidence for EAA benefits?   
    Kick start MPS and stave off intra workout muscle catabolism.

    Do they 'work' ? yes 

    Are they going to make a considerable difference in your annual muscle gain? not really 

    It's just another one of those 1%'s along with spreading your protein servings out to 5-6x per day, getting in high glycemic carbs post work out, supplementing creatine ect 
    Each one on it's own won't make a huge difference but all added together suddenly those 1%'s amount to something a bit more noticeable. 
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    swole troll got a reaction from squeezemyhernia in First cycle advice..   
     
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    swole troll got a reaction from Alex12340 in Swole Troll's anabolic lockdown rebound   
    13/05/21 
    Deadlift 190kg 5x3
    Chest supp t bar row 45kg x10, 35kg x11
    Chest supp high iso row x6, x9
    Bent over dual DB row x8, x11
    Wide grip lat pulldown x14, x12
    Chest supp row x10, x12 
    Pullover machine x15
    LISS x15mins 
    Deadlifts felt dreadful during warm ups so capped it at 190 and just worked on technique. 
    Everything else was spot on, really connected with the back on everything, lats engorged in blood.
    I'll take this wo as slept appalling last night, ended up working into the night and couldn't unwind. 
    Also got some sort of gum / tooth ache but over a broad area, I'm guessing gingivitis but no visible swelling or discoloration and I have tip top oral hygiene being a heavy coffee drinker kind of have to. 
    Hopefully be able to get into the dentist although that's been a headache since all this covid malarkey.
    Here's to hoping..
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    swole troll got a reaction from shredcity in Need a boost - any suggestions?   
    Coffee. 

    Your whole post screams this to me. 

    Take whatever money you were going to spend on peptides and spend it on a quality bean and enjoy yourself a nice large cup of black coffee. 

    You'll be productive, motivated and it will increase your performance in the gym and overall health all whilst being a delicious beverage. 
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    swole troll reacted to gymaddict1986 in First online journal   
    Week 3 day 6.  Hamstrings quads calves  abs

    Warm up leg curls and good mornings  X3 
    Romanian deadlifts 
    180kg 9.     140kg 14
     
    Laying leg curls 
    54kg 12,  8
     
    Seated leg curls 
    57kg 11.  50kg 12
     
    Wide leg press 
    300kg 12.    370kg 5.  
     
    Free bar  narrow squats 
    150kg 6.    140kg.    7
     
    Adductor  
    63 kg 10.    50kg 13 
     
    Abductor 
    50kg 20 ,18
     
    Calve raises 
    80kg 11.   70kg 12 
     
    Seated calves 
    70kg 9.   60kg12. 
    Pump set 30 kg 12 
     
    Ab work
    Leg raises 35.  30, 25
     
    Cable crunches 
    91kg whole stack. 12 10,8

    40 minutes cardio 


    quick video from  session  rdls 180kg for 9 and a snap shot of squatting , keep in mind my legs are massively fatigued by the time I get to squats , so a measly 150kg is no where near my best as if I hit them fresh obviously but still progressing so all good  . Will be now taking a forced day off to recover and I will do more updates then .
     
    https://youtube.com/shorts/ToYeItWwTdQ?feature=share
     

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    swole troll got a reaction from shredcity in Need a boost - any suggestions?   
    Coffee. 

    Your whole post screams this to me. 

    Take whatever money you were going to spend on peptides and spend it on a quality bean and enjoy yourself a nice large cup of black coffee. 

    You'll be productive, motivated and it will increase your performance in the gym and overall health all whilst being a delicious beverage. 
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    swole troll got a reaction from DACTT in Lethargy on Tren - solutions   
    200-300mcg of 5htp may help.
    Even if you're not noticing the disturbance very few get away Scot free with sleep where tren is concerned. 
    It's such an aggressive androgen that it will stimulate the cns and disturb your sleep. 
    You could try a combination of 5htp, ksm-66 and zma before bed (neuromax would be another good shout)
    But generally with tren it is sort of the nature of the beast unfortunately.
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    swole troll reacted to DACTT in Lethargy on Tren - solutions   
    Cheers mate, I understand that there will be these type of sides with Tren, as you say, it’s just the way it is.
    Although I’m sleeping 8ish hours I don’t believe I’m getting into a proper deep sleep. (REM). Researching this I’ve found that vivid dreams can be a sign of this. But I’m still looking into it.
    I take ZMA but will definitely invest in some 5-HTP (have used before with good effect). I’m not familiar with ksm-66 but I’ll give it a go. Also neuromax looks interesting. I’m probably going to start B12 injections biweekly too. 
     
    Im hoping these sides may calm down as I’m only on week 5 but I’m not holding my breath. 
     
    I accept the sides and that’s something I was prepared to deal with but I’m just looking to minimise the sides with the correct supplementation. Hopefully a combination of the above will see some improvements. 

    Thanks again bud 
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    swole troll got a reaction from DACTT in Lethargy on Tren - solutions   
    200-300mcg of 5htp may help.
    Even if you're not noticing the disturbance very few get away Scot free with sleep where tren is concerned. 
    It's such an aggressive androgen that it will stimulate the cns and disturb your sleep. 
    You could try a combination of 5htp, ksm-66 and zma before bed (neuromax would be another good shout)
    But generally with tren it is sort of the nature of the beast unfortunately.
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    swole troll got a reaction from DarkStars in Dbol at end of cycle?   
    No, you won't, there is really no experience like first hand. 

    Anything you add in is going to bump the mg and subsequently performance. 

    My comment was made assuming you had tried these drugs. 

    That is do you want more of the aspect of fullness, a strength boost? maybe go for something in the direct testosterone analogues like dianabol or turinibol
    Is it a drying effect, some added contractile force, consider a DHT like anavar or winstrol
    Maybe you want a 19nor like effect of fullness and considerable strength increase, well despite it not being in the family tree of nandrolone derivatives, oxymetholone very much acts like one. 

    Of course all of these drugs have a lot of cross over effect to the other categories but it always is just a case of what attributes would you most desire and then using the corresponding compound that has the highest propensity to these effects. 

    But overall it can be any number of reasons as to why progress dips off toward the end of a cycle, not just drugs. 

    'oomph' starts to lack as your CNS becomes fatigued from enhanced progression, your body weight goes up and so does you mg per kg come down, your appetite and or digestion starts to dwindle, your training is no longer providing a novel enough stimulus to spark the same adaptive response as what was experienced earlier in the cycle, the list goes on. 

    Up the kcals, take a brief deload around week 8-10, introduce any oral or short chain ester compound and watch your progress take off again. 

    It's good in a way that many don't bother to tweak the variables as it ends up making the cycle self limiting, but in reality you can grow for a very long time in one go, you just need to adjust accordingly as you go.
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    swole troll got a reaction from 27zo in Good labs for Primo?   
    For primo I've used SG, rohm and currently nexus.
    I'd use any of these labs again.
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    swole troll got a reaction from 27zo in Good labs for Primo?   
    For primo I've used SG, rohm and currently nexus.
    I'd use any of these labs again.
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    swole troll got a reaction from DarkStars in Dbol at end of cycle?   
    No, you won't, there is really no experience like first hand. 

    Anything you add in is going to bump the mg and subsequently performance. 

    My comment was made assuming you had tried these drugs. 

    That is do you want more of the aspect of fullness, a strength boost? maybe go for something in the direct testosterone analogues like dianabol or turinibol
    Is it a drying effect, some added contractile force, consider a DHT like anavar or winstrol
    Maybe you want a 19nor like effect of fullness and considerable strength increase, well despite it not being in the family tree of nandrolone derivatives, oxymetholone very much acts like one. 

    Of course all of these drugs have a lot of cross over effect to the other categories but it always is just a case of what attributes would you most desire and then using the corresponding compound that has the highest propensity to these effects. 

    But overall it can be any number of reasons as to why progress dips off toward the end of a cycle, not just drugs. 

    'oomph' starts to lack as your CNS becomes fatigued from enhanced progression, your body weight goes up and so does you mg per kg come down, your appetite and or digestion starts to dwindle, your training is no longer providing a novel enough stimulus to spark the same adaptive response as what was experienced earlier in the cycle, the list goes on. 

    Up the kcals, take a brief deload around week 8-10, introduce any oral or short chain ester compound and watch your progress take off again. 

    It's good in a way that many don't bother to tweak the variables as it ends up making the cycle self limiting, but in reality you can grow for a very long time in one go, you just need to adjust accordingly as you go.
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    swole troll got a reaction from sean m in Swole Troll's anabolic lockdown rebound   
    10/05/21 
    Squat 185kg x3, 165kg x3 
    Belt squat x8, x9 
    Banded leg press x8, x20 
    Leg ext x10, x12
    Seated leg curl x11, x9 
    Standing leg curl x14, x15 
    DB RDL x10 
    LISS x15mins





     
    Squats were bad today.. real bad, that's okay though, still early on, body weight has only just started to move in the right direction. 
    I'll be doing the same reps with 50+ kg extra in the coming months. 
    Utterly drenched and panting like I had a hole in my lung all throughout the wo, struggling to adjust to the bloat / it's taking a little longer than usual. 
    Next week we'll be flying 
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    swole troll got a reaction from Do_it_big in How to prevent gyno and still enjoy having good estrogen levels   
    Although tamoixfen does have a strong binding affinity to the breast site it doesn't prevent ALL oestrogen from getting through. So for some they may actually require an AI alongside their SERM  to prevent gynecomastia in a very high oestrogen environment (I was one of these people pre gland removal) 

    Some other bits worth noting

    Tamoxifen will speed up the rate at which the liver processes anastrazole and femara at 27% and 38% respectively, but it will have no effect on exemestane. 

    Raloxifene will have no effect on the metabolism of any AI and subsequently no reduction in potency. 
    It also has a stronger limiting effect on the breast site than tamoxifen so is always the preferable SERM where gyno prevention is concerned. 

    Worth also noting that SERMs will have a favorable effect on your lipid profile, will reduce IGF production and are neurotoxic.

    So to wrap it up if you're strictly after gyno prevention without lowering your AAS dosages (obviously the most effect route) your best port of call would be raloxifene 

    failing that include exemestane (lesser effect on lipids). 

     
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