How to acheive rapid muscle and strength gains au natural by MYSEONE - Page 2 - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

myseone · 17-05-2005, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by winger

Yea we do. I train heavy and fast and always have. I also mix every workout up between reps to different compound excercises. I always go heavy. Even if it is reps.

I can attest to the difficulty and productivity of your training system. It's basically a brief but brutal way to train. Back in the days I would do a whole body workout that took me about 15 minutes to do. Basically there was no rest between movements, all sets were taken to complete muscular failure, and all exercises were compound exercises.

The routine looked like this:

squats 20 reps to failure
immediately into
dumbbell pullovers 20 reps
no rest
calves raises 15 reps
no rest
bent knee deadlifts 15 reps
no rest
bench press 8 reps
no rest
bent over row8 reps
no rest
upright row 8 reps
no rest
barbell curl 8 reps
no rest
wrist curls 15 reps

all sets included quiet a few forced reps also. This workout would leave me and my partners wiped out for hours after it was done. On one occasion my vision to my sides disappeared, it was that brutal. One of my partners threw up on 2 occasions, another guy ran out of the apartment in which we was training because he could'nt stand the pain. We were a bit masochistic back then to say the least.

Anyhowwithout changing my diet, no supplements etc. I put on 10lbs of muscle and got significantly leaner. My strentgh also went through the ceiling. This was accomplished in a month.

I tried to keep doing it for the next month, but I could not gain any more weight and was starting to feel tired all the time, classic burnout. If I knew then what I know now I would have cut back on a few exercises.

I no longer train this way because after one all out set of squats I'm not prepared to do a set of deadlifts, this is because of the weight I lift. As a result I take the rest I need to be able make the next set a growth stimulator.

I suggest that everyone try this routine or a similiar one at some point in their lifting career, it looks easy, but trust me it's a massacre. But if you can stand the pain for a month you will be extremely happy with the results.

Lawrence

winger · 17-05-2005, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by myseone

I guess the best advice would be to do the minimal amount to be able to get the maximum workout.

Lawrence

Very nice. That is me. Today for instance. I did db inclines. First set with 70 lb db's for 6. Second set 85 lbs for 13 reps. Last db incline workout which was 2 weeks ago I used the 105 lb db's for 4.
I train 6 hours after I wake up. I always try to hydrate my body between meals. I also try to get stronger. So simple.

winger · 17-05-2005, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by myseone

I can attest to the difficulty and productivity of your training system. It's basically a brief but brutal way to train. Back in the days I would do a whole body workout that took me about 15 minutes to do. Basically there was no rest between movements, all sets were taken to complete muscular failure, and all exercises were compound exercises.

The routine looked like this:

squats 20 reps to failure
immediately into
dumbbell pullovers 20 reps
no rest
calves raises 15 reps
no rest
bent knee deadlifts 15 reps
no rest
bench press 8 reps
no rest
bent over row8 reps
no rest
upright row 8 reps
no rest
barbell curl 8 reps
no rest
wrist curls 15 reps

all sets included quiet a few forced reps also. This workout would leave me and my partners wiped out for hours after it was done. On one occasion my vision to my sides disappeared, it was that brutal. One of my partners threw up on 2 occasions, another guy ran out of the apartment in which we was training because he could'nt stand the pain. We were a bit masochistic back then to say the least.

Anyhowwithout changing my diet, no supplements etc. I put on 10lbs of muscle and got significantly leaner. My strentgh also went through the ceiling. This was accomplished in a month.

I tried to keep doing it for the next month, but I could not gain any more weight and was starting to feel tired all the time, classic burnout. If I knew then what I know now I would have cut back on a few exercises.

I no longer train this way because after one all out set of squats I'm not prepared to do a set of deadlifts, this is because of the weight I lift. As a result I take the rest I need to be able make the next set a growth stimulator.

I suggest that everyone try this routine or a similiar one at some point in their lifting career, it looks easy, but trust me it's a massacre. But if you can stand the pain for a month you will be extremely happy with the results.

Lawrence

Nice, I used to super set like that. Sometimes when I do arms I do 18 sets in 17 minutes. My workout partner cant do it. There was a guy watching me and couldn't believe that I kept up that pace. Its years of training and being in shape. I do cardio like a mad man and train the same. If only I had better genetics. Not saying that I would look like you but years of experiance sure does help for me.

myseone · 17-05-2005, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by winger

Nice, I used to super set like that. Sometimes when I do arms I do 18 sets in 17 minutes. My workout partner cant do it. There was a guy watching me and couldn't believe that I kept up that pace. Its years of training and being in shape. I do cardio like a mad man and train the same. If only I had better genetics. Not saying that I would look like you but years of experiance sure does help for me.

18 sets in 17 minutes is no joke, seeing that you prescribe to HIT type workouts. I usually do about 4 sets in that time when I'm training heavy.

During pre contest I include higher rep wt training days between my HIT days for a variety of reasons, these works are quick paced supersets, with 45 seconds rest between exercises.

Experience definitely counts for a lot. Concerning the genetics, we are given what we are given, actualizing our potential or pushing forward towards our goals is the true mark of a champion. Seems as if you are doing that.

myseone · 06-06-2005, 05:21 AM

My new website is up, check out the links below. Still needs a little tweaking but that's an ongoing project.

Captain Hero · 06-06-2005, 06:31 AM

Site looks good myseone! Do you have to register to view philosophy and things like that mate?

winger · 06-06-2005, 01:21 PM

Yea it does look good. Looks modern. Nice site Myseone. That is a real nice pic of you. I just used my email address and I got in and toured your site.

JohnO · 06-06-2005, 01:37 PM

Had a look through your web site

?Big without roids? Your general info is fine its a good read and interesting but are you really saying you can be this big without roids?

I know its a private matter if you have taken or not but you look like you have seen gear in your training life to date and as such how can you promote the site bigwithout... given your base?

I have no issues with gear usage but as one of the smaller guys looking to get big I like fairness and openess about what can be achived and what has been achived etc

If you use your body to promot your work and that is a drug based body then isn't that like the ads that tell you take this supp (before and after pics here) and in just a few days you will be this big - or your money back.

Is is a nice site and I didn't put any details in to tour it.

I'm very interested in your thoughts and comments regarding this Myseone either on this post or via Pm/email if you wish - non conflictual just discussion.

myseone · 06-06-2005, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnO

Had a look through your web site

?Big without roids? Your general info is fine its a good read and interesting but are you really saying you can be this big without roids?

I know its a private matter if you have taken or not but you look like you have seen gear in your training life to date and as such how can you promote the site bigwithout... given your base?

I have no issues with gear usage but as one of the smaller guys looking to get big I like fairness and openess about what can be achived and what has been achived etc

If you use your body to promot your work and that is a drug based body then isn't that like the ads that tell you take this supp (before and after pics here) and in just a few days you will be this big - or your money back.

Is is a nice site and I didn't put any details in to tour it.

I'm very interested in your thoughts and comments regarding this Myseone either on this post or via Pm/email if you wish - non conflictual just discussion.

Great that you found some of the info interesting.

On the steriod issue, yes I'm saying that this can be accomplished without drugs, absolutely.

Yes you need the genetics, the resolve, the discipline, the self belief, and the right training and nutrition principles, etc. but it can be done.

I have not touched steriods in almost 10 years, so yes I consider myself natural. Steriod gains tend to disappear after use that's why users tend to stay on for extended periods of time. (In a a past thread on this site I discuss this issue)

I have found methods, and combinations of methods that will work for anyone (almost) that wants to reach their genetic capacity at a fast rate. The information on the site goes into some of these factors.

If you are open to suggestions, from a person who has gone through a lot of trial and error, then you have found a great starting reference of information on my website.

In conclusion I know that the belief that an outstanding body can only be built without drugs is extremely cripiling.

How many individuals use steriods before they really find out how far their genetics will go? a lot.

How many individuals train less intensely because they beleive that drugs are the only way to reach a goal? Many.

The new beleif should be, I'm going to realize my goal of actualizing my full genetic potential (without drugs) and I'm going to confidentially proceed.

The info on the site will allow you to shave years, literally years off your quest to build a larger and stronger physique.

myseone · 06-06-2005, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cap

Site looks good myseone! Do you have to register to view philosophy and things like that mate?

Thankyou. Yes you do, but you can register for free. The benefit of registering is that I will send you a newsletter with tips on training, nutrition, mindset, art, and what I've been up to.

You should also sign up for my fan club- fan club was'nt my idea, but it allows me to reach more people- for things that are going on with me.

Lawrence

myseone · 06-06-2005, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by winger

Yea it does look good. Looks modern. Nice site Myseone. That is a real nice pic of you. I just used my email address and I got in and toured your site.

Thankyou,
I designed the templates and layouts for the site, just like to control as much as I can. Not good all the time, but in this case it worked out quiet well.

The more info that you fill out the better I will be able to answer questions for my newsletter.

Lawrence

megatron · 06-06-2005, 04:35 PM

the site looks good mate, as do you. I really like reading the other thread on mental techniques. You have contributed a great deal to this site in a short time.

JohnO · 06-06-2005, 09:12 PM

Thanks Myseone, i will register on the site and see what extra stuff I can learn.

If you natural you build is excellent, well done.

samurai69 · 06-06-2005, 09:21 PM

Ive registered

Carlos901 · 06-06-2005, 10:00 PM

some very good read on that site. well done m8

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JohnO Looking Freaky Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 601	Had a look through your web site ?Big without roids? Your general info is fine its a good read and interesting but are you really saying you can be this big without roids? I know its a private matter if you have taken or not but you look like you have seen gear in your training life to date and as such how can you promote the site bigwithout... given your base? I have no issues with gear usage but as one of the smaller guys looking to get big I like fairness and openess about what can be achived and what has been achived etc If you use your body to promot your work and that is a drug based body then isn't that like the ads that tell you take this supp (before and after pics here) and in just a few days you will be this big - or your money back. Is is a nice site and I didn't put any details in to tour it. I'm very interested in your thoughts and comments regarding this Myseone either on this post or via Pm/email if you wish - non conflictual just discussion.

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