TYSON

Ive started to notice i am struggling a little with my weights, i know ive probally got less energy at the moment (dnp) but basically i want to know this.

I am struggling to lift my current weights with strict form, i think ive got so carried away with adding weights that i have let form slip. DO I STICK TO THE WEIGHT UNTIL I REACH MY 3 X 8 REPS OR DO I DROP WEIGHT AND START OVER SO I CAN DO 8 REPS STRICT AGAIN.

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hackskii

Drop the weight.

It probably is from dieting.
Ususlly one will lose some strength with weight loss due to restricted calories.

Or you can take a little more time during your workout for recouperation.

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robdog

Mate if you want to go down the powerlfiting route like Chris and Big Pete say then i would say heavy is the way to go.

If you want to go down the bodybuilding route then dont wory about what weight you are lifting cause it doesnt matter. The intensity you use imo is what counts.

When i go to the gym i am bigger than alot of the guys down there but nealry all of them can lift more than me. Go figure.

This is just my opinion but bodybuilders dont have to lift big weights to acheive the physique they want. It can be done with big weights to a certain extent but there is alot to be said for ultra strict form.

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robdog

Yes that what i mean mate. Super strict imo with moderate weights is the way to go.

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big

If you're losing strength while cutting it means one or both of two things are wrong:

1. Your routine is overtraining you.
2. You are undereating and losing muscle.

It is definitely possible to GAIN strength even while cutting.

Cutting = cutting fat, NOT cutting muscle/strength.

You need to rethink something IMO.

big

Yes I agree with this to a certain extent, but you STILL need progressive resistance for optimal training no matter whether you're doing moderate weights or heavy weights.

Progressive resistance = the key to training for everyone - bodybuilders, powerlifters, weightlifters etc.

robdog

Very true mate. I think at the end of the day its all down to finding what works for you.

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Godzilla

I wouldn't touch weights if I was on DNP, I'd be somewhere cool. How long have you been on it?

TYSON

ok i think i understand, i dont think that it is im getting weakerdue to diet (i hope) ive just allways trained with heavy is best in my mind but this way i dont feel the muscles working like i did when i first started with less weight. I will drop the weights next week and see how i get on.

If it is lack of food then what am i supposed to do as im using diatia level 2 as this is my weight area, im down too 196lbs from 208lbs so not bad going but i feel everything is falling apart now.

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If it is lack of food, then either go up to level 3 or do as chefx says and add a little butter or oil to each meal on level 2. You should be losing about 1lb/week of fat at the most. Any more is PROBABLY going to be muscle and strength loss too. When you were 208 according to diatia you should have started at level 3 and only dropped to 2 when you got below 200. This would have kept your metabolism higher for longer.

I also remember seeing a post saying you have 2 cheat days a week. If this is still the case, if I were you I would personally go up to level 3 but drop down to either 1 cheat day or half a cheat day a week. That will keep your total weekly calories probably fairly similar to where they are now, but you'll be getting a higher percentage of it from good foods.

If you're not getting weaker due to diet then it's probably your training routine that should be reviewed.

Also are you getting enough water and sleep?

TYSON

I never did start at level 3 went in foot first at level 2 wouldnt i stop loosing if i went up a level, also that wouldnt be thr right weight class, what do you think.

Definatly getting plenty of water especially while ive been on dnp lol, start clen today.

Ive never exsperianced this before. I think ive just hit my body so hard with weights and diet over last 12 weeks its had enough, is that possable

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or just wait till I get back and you can switch to my training hahahahaha

(hey its 80 degrees warm here in Florida!)

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I am loosing 1 pound a week and all my lifts are still up. 2 pounds a week and I dont think I can get stronger. At best I would hope I maintained my lifts, but that better be a perfect diet.
Stick or drop weights? Always lift. If you are going to drop anything drop the dnp!;) Weights are the best fat burner there is. You get to burn fat and sculpt the body. Every one of Bigs posts are spot on. This stuff is not rocket science trust me. If you are getting weaker you are eather not getting enough sleep or over training, or your diet is sh1t. You are doing Diatia so the diet is cool. I think you need to do less in the gym and drop the cardio if you are doing cardio. You dont need it with the dnp.
I train 5-6 days with weights for 17 minutes heavy. I know everybody is different, but this works for me.

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You might stop losing for a week or two while your metabolism adjusts, as right now your metabolic rate is probably much lower than it should be. If this concerns you, don't jump up a full level and instead just add a few extra calories from good fats instead and keep increasing until your weight loss slows down to 1lb/week. Do things slowly... the body doesn't like major shocks like suddenly adding or reducing 500 calories each day.


You have to periodise your training. NOBODY on ANY routine can keep giving it 100% continually without overtraining. You MUST periodise. ALL good routines and all the top lifters (who aren't loading themselves with **** loads of drugs) are periodising. It may sound counterproductive to spend 2-3 weeks at sub-maximal weights at the start of a cycling period, but it works.

You also have to realise that you MAY be overtraining (it honestly sounds like you are). For one thing, while what you're doing now may have worked real nice when you were 25 and on lots of gear with a bulking diet, you're now older (which usually, but not always, means even less recovery ability) and are on a cutting diet.