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Old 17-02-2005, 11:56 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Do you do deadlifts??

How many of you guys do deadlifts. I dont at the moment. But have noticed that all the "thick" guys at our gym do them. Are they a required in a solid routine? Should I add them into my routine to get maximum gains. I have a recurring back injury and dont want to aggrevate it, is there a particular method to start, or just throw myself into it eg, maximum weight etc..
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I periodically do them. I find that even when I don't do them, my strength in them STILL goes up - as long as I'm increasing in squats and am doing at least some hamstring work.

Deads are punishing to recover from but are great for mass.

Start light... REALLY light and add weight as long as your form stays perfect.
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Not at the moment no. I have tried full deads and partial but my back is injured so until thats sorted im b0lloxed realy. Same goes for squatting. They are good but you can work round it if you have to and still build a good muscular physique without them.
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Thanks.Yeh robdog, i dont squat either, as both my knees are knackered as well.Old school rugby injuries.I think I'll start with some light-weight deads to get the correct form...What should the wieght range be in comparison with bench etc. I can flat bench around 102Kg, so what would a good deadlift to start off be??
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Thanks.Yeh robdog, i dont squat either, as both my knees are knackered as well.Old school rugby injuries.I think I'll start with some light-weight deads to get the correct form...What should the wieght range be in comparison with bench etc. I can flat bench around 102Kg, so what would a good deadlift to start off be??
Just start off really light - like 1 plate each side (60kg total). This should feel like nothing to you. As long as you keep good form you should be able to get to 3 plates each side easily in a matter of a handful of workouts without any pain. As soon as you feel pain, you're probably doing the exercise wrong. Just pay 100% attention to form - get someone to watch if possible.
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Your not a real strongman if you dont deadlift
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Get a big thick powerlifting belt and not the thin ones you normaly see in the gyms. The usual weider belts are no good for heavy deadlifts, you can order a good belt from Pullman sports, bp sports or hardcore sports. Have look on the search engines.
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Your not a real strongman if you dont deadlift

Lol. So you reckon I need a belt as well.I have a york one from Argos, will that be think enough>??
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No belt, if back is bad do 3/4 pulls from a rack, start light and build up gradually
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chris, went down to see Owain of hardcore, good bloke. knows his **** too

but deads, of course. if you are able to do them, DO THEM!!!!

i do wide stance (sumo style) cos it doesnt fell comfy doing it narrower. find what is most comfortable for you and go for it. as they say start light and go from there. IMO there arent any need for high reps on deads. they are a compound exercise in there purest form. rep range of 3-6 reps and add weight each set. when you find a comfortable weight to pull for those reps, stick to it for a few sets. so you are working upto the weight then doing working sets.

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60kg-3
100kg-3
140kg-3
160kg-3
180kg-3
200kg-3
220kg- 3x3

thats only and example, and thats what last weeks back workout was like. gonna be similar tonight, ouch

good luck, and as big says. squatting will aid dead strength as will ham strength
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i think deads are the best exercise imo, im sure chris and most others will back that up too.
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I try to do deadlifts every other back training session. Them and squats are great overall mass builders. Try and keep good strict form tho!
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Most def, deadlifts work 80% of the body. Dont use an Argos belt, they dont provide enough protection for the back. Owen is a tidy guy, strong guy when he gets it together, should do some good lift this year.
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