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Old 17-02-2005, 03:31 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Thanks for the help guys (and gals).Will look into getting a proper lifting belt before I start doing them..
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Can you all gang up on Winger about deads then - I had this out with him the other week, and he's still convinced bent over rows are better!!
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Old 17-02-2005, 03:49 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Thanks for the help guys (and gals).Will look into getting a proper lifting belt before I start doing them..

Forget the belt for now mate - it'll make you lazy, wait till you're lifting 2x your body weight
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Old 17-02-2005, 04:12 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I dont do them anymore.
Probably due to the knees are not what they used to be.
I use too much back when I do them so I was thinking of using dumbbells instead.
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Old 17-02-2005, 04:54 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Can you all gang up on Winger about deads then - I had this out with him the other week, and he's still convinced bent over rows are better!!
Deads all the way compared to b/o rows.
why do you think b/o rows are better wing?
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Old 17-02-2005, 05:00 PM   #21 (permalink)
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oh don't set him off again!
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Old 17-02-2005, 06:19 PM   #22 (permalink)
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oh don't set him off again!
lol, i remember something about europeans do it and americans dont.
cmon wing, give it to me hard baby.
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Old 17-02-2005, 08:26 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I just did these today after I posted that I dont do them anymore :confused:

Went light tho and kept the form good.
Felt pretty good I might add.
Really good.

I think I might as well add these into the mix.
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i love deads for the lower back
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chris, went down to see Owain of hardcore, good bloke. knows his **** too

but deads, of course. if you are able to do them, DO THEM!!!!

i do wide stance (sumo style) cos it doesnt fell comfy doing it narrower. find what is most comfortable for you and go for it. as they say start light and go from there. IMO there arent any need for high reps on deads. they are a compound exercise in there purest form. rep range of 3-6 reps and add weight each set. when you find a comfortable weight to pull for those reps, stick to it for a few sets. so you are working upto the weight then doing working sets.

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100kg-3
140kg-3
160kg-3
180kg-3
200kg-3
220kg- 3x3

thats only and example, and thats what last weeks back workout was like. gonna be similar tonight, ouch

good luck, and as big says. squatting will aid dead strength as will ham strength

is that big ows!!! hes bout 6foot sumthing and round 18stone??? hes in uni and trains in the ymca in llanelli when he is home???
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dont think so.

he lives down cheltenham, bout 5'8-9 and prob 15-16st
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Old 18-02-2005, 06:12 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Deads all the way compared to b/o rows.
why do you think b/o rows are better wing?
Because they work the upper back more effectively by isolating more of the muscle in the back.
I dare anybody on this board to try bent over rows.
If done correctly you will come back to this thread and thank me. I have done it all and I get a way better workout doing bent rows.
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Old 18-02-2005, 10:45 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Because they work the upper back more effectively by isolating more of the muscle in the back.
I dare anybody on this board to try bent over rows.
If done correctly you will come back to this thread and thank me. I have done it all and I get a way better workout doing bent rows.
I have always done bent over rows in my back workouts. I also find them an extremely good exercise, but I wouldn't put them in the same league as deads. I do think that anyone who doesn't have both bent over rows AND deads (along with a vertical pulling movement like chins) is really robbing themselves of a great back workout.

An exercise's ability to isolate a muscle doesn't necessarily make it a better choice... for instance, do you also think that leg extensions are a better leg exercise than squats?
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