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Old 19-03-2006, 04:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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heres my routine have a look and tell me what you think....feel free to tell me i'm doing

things wrong or not doing enough my aim is more size

mon-shoulders

3x8 press behind neck

3x8-10 side raises db's

3x8-10 front raisesdb's

tue-back

5x5 deads

3x8-10 b/o rows

3x8-10 pull downs to the front

wed - legs

5x5 squats

3x10-15 leg raises

3x10-15 leg curls

thur - chest

5x5 (30 degree ) incline bench press

5x8 (30 degree) incline db flies

fri - arms

3x8 curls with ez bar

3x8 db alternate curls

all exercises are done with a heavy weight

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Old 19-03-2006, 07:48 PM   #2 (permalink)
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personally i'd rest or do some light cardio on wed do chest on thu and legs on fri. but thats just me i'm sure people would disagree with me
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Old 20-03-2006, 08:33 AM   #3 (permalink)
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IMO it's too much volume for most people to recover from, but give it a go and see how you get on. As long as you're able to increase the weight and/or reps each week, the routine is working. If not, it doesn't work for you.

I would suggest not doing a press behind the neck though, as many injuries have occurred as a result of that.
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Old 20-03-2006, 08:56 AM   #4 (permalink)
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If a 5 day split is working for you then the only thing i would do is change the days you do legs and chest, which would allow you to train arms on friday as a dedicated day, i notice that you have a bicep workout but dont train triceps directly, but biceps are a smaller muscle and probably need less work

When i did a 5 day training split it went
Monday - shoulders and traps
Tuesday - Back
Wednesday - Chest
Thursday - Legs
Friday - Arms

I gained well on this sort of workout and found the rest periods to be adiquate (sp)

I now train full body 3 times per week using a 5x5 . I still gain well and increase weight regularly


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heres my routine have a look and tell me what you think....feel free to tell me i'm doing

things wrong or not doing enough my aim is more size

mon-shoulders

3x8 press behind neck

3x8-10 side raises db's

3x8-10 front raisesdb's

tue-back

5x5 deads

3x8-10 b/o rows

3x8-10 pull downs to the front

wed - legs

5x5 squats

3x10-15 leg raises

3x10-15 leg curls

thur - chest

5x5 (30 degree ) incline bench press

5x8 (30 degree) incline db flies

fri - arms

3x8 curls with ez bar

3x8 db alternate curls

all exercises are done with a heavy weight
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Old 20-03-2006, 09:00 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I would suggest not doing a press behind the neck though, as many injuries have occurred as a result of that.

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hello s69 thanks for the reply mate i didnt realise i hadnt put my triceps in i do skull crushers snd pushdowns for them mate i like doing dead lifts for my back so would your routine not overtrain my traps mate..not being negative or cheeky mate...unc
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IMO it's too much volume for most people to recover from, but give it a go and see how you get on. As long as you're able to increase the weight and/or reps each week, the routine is working. If not, it doesn't work for you.

I would suggest not doing a press behind the neck though, as many injuries have occurred as a result of that.
should i swap them for dumbells big? i just thought that the press behind neck was a core exersise and built good size! im very strong on this exersise so i like it it makes me feel as if im growing with every set but i will take your advice and change it after all im still learning cheers...unc
ps what would you say was a good routine for me ? thanks again
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hello s69 thanks for the reply mate i didnt realise i hadnt put my triceps in i do skull crushers snd pushdowns for them mate i like doing dead lifts for my back so would your routine not overtrain my traps mate..not being negative or cheeky mate...unc
when i did the routine i used to do deadlifts on saturday ---- just deadlifts

on the routine above drop the shrugs on shoulder day and ad deads to back day to compensate
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should i swap them for dumbells big? i just thought that the press behind neck was a core exersise and built good size! im very strong on this exersise so i like it it makes me feel as if im growing with every set but i will take your advice and change it after all im still learning cheers...unc
ps what would you say was a good routine for me ? thanks again

If you have been training for a while without any shoulder pain then keep doing them

the shoulder press behing neck has been marked as a contra indicated exercise and injury is only dependant on skeletal and muscular composition.......I have done them in the past for many years without injury (i mix up shoulder work now, arnolds, D/Bells, Military, clean and press etc)
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what would you say was a good routine for me ? thanks again

If you are growing on the workout you are doing now witheither the weigh or the reps going up pretty consistently then stick to it....too many people chop and change routines too quickly

Big for example grows well on his how to grow or duel factor plans, I have moved to a 5x5 full body 3 times per week that i grow well on now and i used to do a 5 or 6 day split as listed above and i grew well and strog on that
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should i swap them for dumbells big? i just thought that the press behind neck was a core exersise and built good size! im very strong on this exersise so i like it it makes me feel as if im growing with every set but i will take your advice and change it after all im still learning cheers...unc
ps what would you say was a good routine for me ? thanks again

You could use dumbells, or do military press to the front instead of behind your neck. Both work well. I prefer standing military press myself as it works more stabiliser muscles.

If you are growing well off your current routine, just keep doing it. Once you find something that works, milk all the gains you can from it, and when it stops working, change it up.
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big unc work out looks good.herse mine to compare mate
mon shoulders
4x8 military press
4x8 upright rows
4x8 arnies
4x8 f/wd dbell raises
4x8 lat raises
4x8 bent over latraises
4x8 traps front rear
4x8 dumbell shrugs

tue legs

4x8 leg press
4x8 leg curls
4x8 leg ext
4x8 calf raises


wed back

4x8 crusafix
4x8 pulldowns
4x8 rows
4x8 bentover rows
4x8 dumbell pulls

thurs bicept tricept

4x8 bicept curls
4x8 tric kicks
4x8 seated d/bell curls alternated
4x8 french curls
4x8 single arm d/bell preacher curls
4x8 pull push downs

fri chest

4x8 incline d/bell press
4x8 wide grip dips
4x8 flat bench d/bell press
4x8 decline barbell press
2x10 pec deck/ cables

sat/ sun rest days
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samurai i always thought it was best to keep major body parts seperated back shoulders chest. giving them rest as you know if you do shoulders on monday then back on tusday. wouldnt that put a lot of pressure even over train the shoulders. same goes chest . when you work back chest and shoulers. the shoulders actually get trained three times.hence the reason for keeping them apart ie monday shoulders wednesday back friday chest mate or am i wrong
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