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Testoviron and Dbol Stack

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hey guys just need some opinion i was gana start a dbol only cycle for

6 weeks running at 30 mg, recenelty found out my source has alot of testoviron lying about he will give me enough for 7 weeks free of charge ( i did favore for him )

anyways what do you guys think of dbol and testoviron stack also how long should i run testv if i where to stack it with dbol how long would the cycle be ect

PS. how good is testoviron compared to the single ester tests

thx in advance

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Uzi

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testoviron is blend of testosterone enanthate (Long Ester) and testosterone propionate (Short ester) so it has blend of the long and short effects of test thats

wat ive researched on so far reason why i was getting confused how to run this type of test along with dbol

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ye hears a part of the artical i read

testosterone enanthate, testosterone propionate

Testoviron is a blend of two different products, namely testosterone with the propionate (short) ester attached, and testosterone with the Enanthate (long) ester attached. Confusingly, Schering, who produces this product, also has a pure testosterone Enanthate product of the same name. Testosterone is usually attached to an ester (i.e. when you buy testosterone propionate, or Enanthate the components of this particular drug, you are buying testosterone with a propionate ester attached and testosterone with an Enanthate ester attached, both in the same milliliter of drug). These esters determines how long it takes your body to dispose of the testosterone, and propionate is the shortest ester commonly available with a testosterone base (of course, testosterone suspension has no ester), whereas Enanthate is the longest generally available with a testosterone base. Within your body, there are enzymes, called esterases, which have the function of removing the ester from steroids, and leaving you with just the steroid molecule with the ester cleaved off. Depending on how heavy the ester chain is, that determines how long it takes the esterase to remove it. With this product, you have testosterone with a heavy chain (which will take your esterases awhile to remove) as well as with a short chain (which your esterases will quickly remove).

What happens when those esters are removed?

Well, then the Testosterone you have injected induces changes in the shape as well as the size of your muscle fibers and also can change the appearance and the number of those(7). Testosterone is also noted for its ability to protect your hard earned muscle from catabolic (muscle wasting) glucocorticoid hormones (8), thus inhibiting their ability to send a message to muscle cells to release their stored protein. Concomittantly, Testosterone sends a message to muscle cells to actually store more contractile protein (called actin and myosin); glucocorticoid hormones send the opposite message. In addition, Testosterone has the ability to increase erythropoiesis (red blood cell production) in your kidneys(9), and as we all know, a higher Red Blood Cell (RBC) count would most likely improve endurance via bringing more highly oxygenated blood to your muscles. Having more RBCs can also improve recovery from strenuous physical activity. It needs to also be noted that aggression levels often rise dramatically with the use of exogenous testosterone (15).

All of these great benefits are to be had with the use of either testosterone Enanthate or propionate alone, but realistically, Testoviron will be part of a cycle containing one or more other drugs. People who are bulking will probably choose to use another drug like Deca or Eq (possibly with Dbol as well) and those who are cutting will probably steer towards Eq and perhaps Trenbolone. Very often users will shoot this drug three or four times a week, but blood levels of testosterone from the testosterone Enanthate component would still above baseline with this drug at around day eight (16), even thought we know the other component would peak and fall much more rapidly.

The advantage to longer esters is that they need to be injected less frequently (test prop needs to be injected every other day while you can shoot test cyp once a week). The disadvantage to long estered steroids is that they contain less actual steroid. Anecdotally, however, most people from Steroid.com and other discussion boards who have tried differing esters on their various cycles agree: Testosterone Propionate causes the least side effects and the least bloating, while Enanthate causes the most. Also, any injected testosterone will inhibit your natural test levels and HPTA (Hypothalamic Pituitary Testicular Axis). A Hundred mgs of test/week takes about 5-6 weeks to shut the HPTA, and 250-500mgs shuts you down by week 2 (4).

also some other sites ive read on said it was blend also

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Yeah I havent actually heard of the multi estered testoviron, but I know for sure that there is a Testoviron Depot 250 which i have just bought several cycles off from thailand, and this is pharma grade test E, the best of the best ive heard.

Im planning to run this test depot 250 and danabol DS as a kickstart, but as said before i recommend you run it for 10-12 weeks buddy, if you are getting around 7 weeks free then just grab a couple more vials and pay to make it up to 12 weeks.

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correct there are 2. the thai bought relabelled in thai is 250mg of Test E but made in good old Deutschland is indeed absolutely tip top stuff and your number one purchase should you go to the land of the smiles.

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ill find out exacly which one it is, so how should i run it say if i did 12 week cycle of testoviron and dbol as in through the 12 weeks also what do u recommend on pct would this type of cycle shut u down hard?

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You will just need the standard pct remedy really for that cycle, clomid at 100/50/50/50 and nolva at 40/40/20/20 should suffice. If you want to introduce HCG on cycle and during / either in PCT but its not nessessary, personally i dont use it but some do.

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ok found out it 250mg vials from thailand cuto how would i carry out the cycle as in would i inject 2 vials per week? for 12 weeks so 500mg a week also the dbol how do i take that should i do 30mg for 12 weeks

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jesus.. lol you cant run 12 weeks of dbol bro ahh. you can technically but if you want to elevate liver enzymes through the roof then go ahead :)

but seriously yeah you should run it at 30mg ED for 4-6 weeks as a kickstart to the cycle.

You can choose weather you want to inject twice a week or once, since it is a E ester its disperced very smoothly over the week so your blood plasma level remains more stable. I personally would just load up 2-3 injections once a week say Monday and keep it simple. 2 in the ass and maybe 1 in the quad simple.

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sounds sweet ok so all in all this is how the cycle would go based on wat u have said since this is my first cycle for aas done ph`s in the past

12 weeks of testoviron 500mg injected every monday

4 weeks of dbol 30mg a day

PCT 100/50/50/50 and nolva at 40/40/20/20

the 4 weeks of dbol will be along side the testoviron right? so included in the 12 weeks

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testoviron depot is 250mg of enanthate, much sure you say thankyou to your source

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how come they rare to get? khaos the part i dont understand is if testoviron is enanthate is it exacly same as test - e?

ive read varios places that its chemical bond of both test - p and e has short ester and long been classified as blend of test on most sites just wondring whats the diffrence

also what do u think about the cycle ive layed out

PS. ill take some pictures of the vials just got em today also was wondring hes got hell of alot of platinum sust 250 organon any good?

Edited by Uzi

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Yes you have several versions of strait testosterone with different esters attached to the chain.

You have Test Enethnate, Test Cypionate, Test Propionate, Test Suspension.

Test E and Cyp have the longest ester attached which disperces over a period 10-14 days usually so an injection period once a week suffices nicely. But obviously with Test Prop the ester is very short so every day / every other day injections are needed to keep blood levels stable.

Obviously there are pros and cons to the esters, some people say test is test and others say you get bloated gains from long esters and some say this isnt true.

But with long esters the obvious advantage is less injections, but you have less control over the cycle, for whatever reason you need to end it or the side effects become too harsh which is rare tbh you cant just stop, you will be left with a few weeks of slowly disapearing sides that can be quite uncomfortable.

Prop obviously has more injections per week but you have ultimate control over the cycle as you can just stop and start PCT strait away if anything occurs.

Hope this helps. And as for your cycle it looks fine.

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