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Everything you need to know about Anavar

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Found this from another board...Very good post on Var and it's myths and uses...

Everything you need to know about Anavar

MYTHS

Myth #1 - Anavar will not suppress the HPTA.

False. Anavar, used in adequate dosages, will shut you down. To what degree you experience side effects of suppression (loss of libido, lethargy) is entirely dependent upon the individual and the dosages used.

Myth #2 - Var is a weak anabolic, and is not effective unless stacked with a more androgenic compound.

This could not be further from the truth. At dosages of 40mg a day and higher, anavar is incredibly effective at adding water free LBM. At around day 6-7, increased vascularity should become apparent (assuming your oxandrolone is legitimate in its dosing), and strength gains should start appearing around day 14.

If used during a clean bulk, gains of 10-20 pounds are possible. If cutting, you will maintain weight, or even put on 5-10 pounds (depending on the rate of fat loss/severity of diet). You will keep all of your gains with proper PCT.

Myth #3 - Anavar will not require any type of PCT.

This is one ive never understood. It's a pretty commonly known fact now that var is a suppressive compound. So why is it that some individuals still refuse to make a small investment in some clomid/nolva....this is your testicular function we're talking about. That said, PCT required for var is not as "heavy" as PCT for, say, a test/eq cycle. 15-20 days @ 50mg clomid should be sufficient.

LIBIDO

The only real issue of concern that i have found when running anavar alone is slight libido suppression. Anavar is suppressive enough to where you WILL feel a difference in your sex drive (and not for the better ) when using 40+mg a day. There are three options to counteract this.

#1 - Tribulus + Avena Sativa - Trib at 4-7g a day and Avena Sativa at 3-4g a day tend to help prevent any loss in performance or ability to get it up. However, using effective dosages is going to end up being as or more expensive than options 2 or 3...but its your call.

#2 - Proviron - If hairloss is an issue in your choice to use anavar, then you may want to avoid this one. But 25mg ED proviron, starting after week 2, will keep you rock hard. And it will help to harden up your muscles too .

#3 - Maintenance Test Dosage - Finally, you could choose to use testosterone to keep your willy in shape. At a dosage of around 200mg, split bi weekly, everything should keep running smoothly. Also, this will contribute to your gains much moreso than than options 1 or 2. I would keep nolva onhand on the off chance that you are severely gyno prone. Bloating should not be an issue at this dosage.

BENEFITS

Anavar is a badass drug. This is why.

#1 - Vascularity

Oxandrolone will make you veiny as all hell. And quickly. Look out for brand new bulging forearms veins by around day 6. If you are following a cutting regimen, expect new spider webs in your chest, shoulders and quads by around day 21.

#2 - Pumps

When on var, the pumps are constant. Bored sitting in class/at work? Do some unweighted calf raises. After about three minutes, your calves will be ready to pop. Youll be doing something like drinking a cup of water, and after a minute of holding it, your bi will be completely full and pumped. You may have to cut some sets short in the gym due to the painful pumpage.

#3 - Strength

Even when cutting, you can expect new strength gains every workout after about day 14-21.

#4 - Fat Loss

Anavar has been shown to contribute to accelerated fat loss in both subcutaneous and visceral fat, concentrated effects in the abdomen and thigh area. And if youve used the drug, you can attest to this...if you cant sport the 6-8 pack look on var, its not gonna happen .

CYCLE

Anavar should be run @ at least 40mg a day to see all of the benefits it offers. Dosages upwards of 80mg have been shown to exhibit diminishing returns. Also, i cant imagine the intensity of the pumps at that kind of dosage.

LIVER PROTECTION

Anavar is a 17 Alpha Alkylated steroid, and is toxic. It has been shown to be less toxic than other orals, and is even used as liver treatment for recovering alcoholics. Still, i would limit my time using it to 8 weeks, 10 at the most.

It would be beneficial to you liver to use several different OTC supplements during, and perhaps after your cycle. A few preventive measures never hurt anyone .

1 - Milk ThistleThe classic liver protectant herb.supposedly works by blocking the entrance of harmful substances to liver cells, and hastening their expulsion. Make sure there is a high standardization of Silymarin

2 - R ALA

A powerful antioxidant

3 - NAC

Supports liver function and production of l-glutathione

4 - Vitamin C and E

Antioxidants

5 - LOADS of water

Helps to flush out your entire system

LIPID PROTECTION

Anavar isnt going to kill your cholesterol levels like some drugs (winny being one of the worst), but it may put your LDL/HDL profiles outside of the normal range. There are a few things that help, but as long as your not using 60+mg daily or running it for more than 10 weeks, i would just use flax...

1 - Flax Oil

Consuming lots of essential fatty acids promotes overall health, as well as helping to keep your lipid profile from becoming too bad.

2 - Policosanol

Used at 20mg daily to keep your HDL (good cholesterol) levels from crashing, and your LDL from becoming too high.

3 - Niacin

Preferably the flush free variety. If you wish, niacin can be used at 1-2g ED for a short period post-cycle to normalize HDL levels. Do not use for more than 7-14 days, as liver toxicity can be an issue when using those dosages of niacin for long periods of time

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Great post.

I am looking at Anavar for a cutting cycle in the future. In fact I may stick with Anavar period as I am not a fan of the bloating/water retention from a lot of AAS's.

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Agree with most of it

Some dont but overall some good points

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only bad thing about var is the price.

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the strength gains on anavar are very good considering most assume its a weak steroid.

i was very impressed by it when i included it in the last 4 weeks of a test/boldenone cycle.

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Last year I did an anavar only cycle @ 40mg ed. I experienced all of the above and gains remained with no PCT but tribulus running constantly. From my research I remember that gains (muscle/ weight gained with anavar) remain for 6 months even if not workin' out. Only bad thing about anavar is loss of libido and price.

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would this be recomended as a first cycle over dbol if you want just lean gains.?great read thanks

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I personally think Anavar ticks a lot of boxes. It's anabolic, doesn't aromatise, has been shown in studies to cut fat and doesn't cause bloating. Downsides are the price of course but if I could only have one steroid from now on it would probably be Anavar based on my research to date. The bloating, etc of test-e has put me off AAS's a little and my diet is as clean as it gets plus I am running an anti-estrogen (Arimidex).

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brilliant read mate sums it all up for me, as i dont and wouldnt touch injections what orals what would reccomend stacking it with if there is any. Preferably ones with least side effects

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would this be recomended as a first cycle over dbol if you want just lean gains.?great read thanks

No, its expensive and its like trying to getting ****ed on shandy bass when you have special brew at your disposal.

Anavar has its place but alone is a bit of a pretty boy "I dont want to have the bad sides of steroids yet want the gains" cycle and lb for £ is a poor choice for a first cycle unless you are girl and have lots of spare cash

I use it with prop and its OK but prefer tren

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Depends what your goals are. If you are just looking to build a little lean muscle and tone up and cut some fat then I don't think it can be beaten, i.e. if you want to look good on the beach. If you want some serious muscle growth then it's not the way to go.

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Depends what your goals are. If you are just looking to build a little lean muscle and tone up and cut some fat then I don't think it can be beaten, i.e. if you want to look good on the beach. If you want some serious muscle growth then it's not the way to go.

If your goal is to quote 'tone up' you should not even be thinking of taking steroids

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If your goal is to quote 'tone up' you should not even be thinking of taking steroids

I can't believe people use the word tone on a BBing board, it's soooooooo geigh.

I think we need to get a link to the Men's Health and Fitness site for those that want to 'tone'.

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I can't believe people use the word tone on a BBing board, it's soooooooo geigh.

I think we need to get a link to the Men's Health and Fitness site for those that want to 'tone'.

alternatively point this at their cranium and press the red 'OK' button

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It ranks alongside tonk and hench for the most ************ *********** words to be used when talking about training. In fact If someone wrote t0n3d in text language I would be liable to nuke them and anything that lives close by just to ensure they had been erased

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This is me at the end of my anavar only cycle @ 40mg ed. This is last summer (2007). Now, after one year I'm at the end of my test prop, Eq 11-week cycle. I'll post a new photo, same place, same pose for reference. wait another couple of weeks please. :cool:

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yeh looks good mate :)

(just think how good it would have looked with a prop cycle first :laugh::))

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your face in the pic looks as if your trying to go for a big sh*t

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your face in the pic looks as if your trying to go for a big sh*t

Have you tried hitting poses and holding them for around 20-30 seconds?

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Hmmm I would use anavar but only as part of a oral stack with a injectable base. So much of the information is redundant.

a anavar only cycle consdering the likely resuts is a expensive one.

Ofcourse its goal spesific but I would probably plumb for winstrol tab over anavar if i were to run it on its own. You get the same result but at a greatly reduced cost.

I think realisticly your looking at a much higher dosage to acheve the same results of mass from say dbol (on its own). and when you start going over 100mg the sides from var start to come out.

That said i found it usefull for strenght, just add it in as a addition to a cycle at the right dosage it nice.

All things considered I would spend the money on test/drol for sheer mass, test/winstrol for "quality mass".

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If your goal is to quote 'tone up' you should not even be thinking of taking steroids

Taken a bit out of context there. I said build lean muscle, cut and tone up. In which case Anavar is an option. I agree about the word tone though, sounds gay. I'll amend in future.

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Tone up?

Its not a term used by anyone other than housewifes and plump middle aged men. I think its a term most seasoned trainers find quite bizarre for a steroid user to state that as a goal.

Cut and Bulk yeh, tone, toning and anything like that, IMO (and I believe that of others) no

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Ok forgive me if I am being stupid... ignore the cost of this but would a 30% + bf benifit from taking these? If they promote fat loss to some extent would these be better than some of the other stimulants as would be getting two for one with strength gains and an acceled fat loss?

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Tone up?

Its not a term used by anyone other than housewifes and plump middle aged men. I think its a term most seasoned trainers find quite bizarre for a steroid user to state that as a goal.

Cut and Bulk yeh, tone, toning and anything like that, IMO (and I believe that of others) no

Can't disagree.

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Ok forgive me if I am being stupid... ignore the cost of this but would a 30% + bf benifit from taking these? If they promote fat loss to some extent would these be better than some of the other stimulants as would be getting two for one with strength gains and an acceled fat loss?

I don't know enough about Anavar in particular to say, but from the studies done it has been shown to promote weight loss and is also mildly anabolic. So yes in theory you could build some mass and cut some fat. I am not sure many would choose it purely as a fat burner though, primarily due to cost. Having said that, the side-effects of Clenbuterol, Ephedrine, etc are arguably worse. Don't use at 30% body fat though, get down to 15% if you can and see what happens.

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Ok forgive me if I am being stupid... ignore the cost of this but would a 30% + bf benifit from taking these? If they promote fat loss to some extent would these be better than some of the other stimulants as would be getting two for one with strength gains and an acceled fat loss?

IMO nobody at 30% should use gear. Var is a milder steroid for those hell bent on using steroids but the sub q and visceral fat decrease from a cycle of anavar would be similar to about 2 or 3 sessions on cardio.

It is not a potent fat burner, it just has weak properties to accelerate minute fatt loss.

It will not get you cut

If you are (or the person is) 30% body fat there are some issues regarding one or more of the following:

Application

Knowledge

Time spent training

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