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TB500 - My log & results

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Well, I finally decided to try alternative methods to sort a few issues which I have and I thought I would share my experiences with you. I will write a small history of what problems I have, what the causes were, what other medical methods I have tried, what I am planning on doing and so on. I don't know what the results of my future adventure will be, but either way I hope that it helps someone somehow.

Issue:

I have quite a serious issue with neck movement. At the moment I estimate that my viewing angle from left to right is about 100º , so about 50º each way assuming me looking straight is 0º. As you can appreciate that's not normal. Also towards the end of my viewing angle my muscles start to hurt quite a lot and tighten up no end. This causes me to try and stretch my neck muscles by trying to twist my head, quite violently, in the hope it stretches them muscles which causes relief for a few seconds. The right side muscles hurt more then the left but the movement is as limited on both sides.

It does come across as a bit of a tick if I'm honest, however I am fully aware of what I do but I cant help it. My neck hurts quite a lot and considering I'm only 30 I want to sort this out once and for all as this cant go on for the rest of my life. I also suffer tendonitis in both ankles but that's a secondary issue if I'm honest although it does kill when they swell up mainly after football.

Cause:

This is down to two issues I believe. The first one is when I was younger I tried closing a heavy garage door, used my foot as leverage against a wall and as I pulled the door my neck just froze tilted at a right hand side angle. I spent about 4 days in hospital with a brace which had weights on the opposite end pulling my head back in place and ended up in a neck brace for a while.

The second issue which I think is the main one was a serious car crash I was in a few years back. As of then slowly slowly everyday my neck has just got worse and worse.

Diagnosis:

I have had an MRI scan and the diagnosis from the doctors is that my 4th & 5th disc are worn down, more then likely due to the violent movement I mentioned previously. Also the 4 major muscles in my neck don't work as they should leaving the smaller ones to do a lot more work then necessary. They are all extremely inflamed and anybody would think I have the biggest neck muscles in the world but unfortunately its for all the wrong reasons and mainly down to inflammation.

Treatment:

After using the NHS physiotherapy which was absolute crap (15minute sessions every 3 weeks was the most I could have), I changed GP's and was sent to a private physiotherapist who helped me a bit as I'd have 30 minute sessions once a week. Unfortunately due to bureaucracy I could only get 5 sessions at a time which isn't that many and by the time I got referred again its back to stage one for me. Also my physiotherapist said that my muscles are in such bad state it will take a bit more then just some sessions and exercises which he's given me to get better.

Intended Treatment:

Well I decided to finally take the plunge and go for a cycle of TB500. To be entirely honest a lot of it comes down to desperation of finding a solution to this issue I have and I've read quite a bit about it and from different people who have used it and it seems great. As far as I can see it there will be two outcomes, it works and I feel great and I see improvement or it doesn't work and its made no difference to me except that I'm out of pocket of some money.

The cycle I will be going for is the following:

Over Three Consecutive Days Starting Off

Day 1: 4mg

Day 2: 6mg

Day 3: 6mg

Then Once A Week Starting As Of Day 3 For Two Months

Day 10: 2mg

Day 17: 2mg

Day 24: 2mg

Day 31: 2mg

Day 38: 2mg

Day 45: 2mg

Day 52: 2mg

Then Once A Month Starting As Of Day 52

Day 82: 2mg

Day 112: 2mg

Day 142: 2mg

Day 172: 2mg

Day 202: 2mg

Day 232: 2mg

Day 262: 2mg

Day 292: 2mg

Day 312: 2mg

Day 342: 2mg

I have bought the first two months worth in 5mg vials and I will be diluting them with 1.5ml of Bacs Water so they will be 2mg/0.6ml ratio. I haven't bought the 3rd stage vials yet but I will be doing so in 2mg vials with Water for Injections instead of Bac water. Only reason is the shelf life of Bac Water would mean I'd only get a vial from a 30ml amp before it goes off whereas I can get small Water for Injections amps which would be one use and then I could chuck the rest away.

I will be jabbing myself Sub-Q into belly fat with 12mm insulin needles and I will be doing so at two or three different times of the day depending if its 4mg(2*2mg) or 6mg(3*2mg) I need(if someone suggests doing it all in one go, I'm happy to hear the reasoning).

I am currently waiting for everything to arrive but I believe it should be here by Saturday so I thought I may as well start the ball rolling with the thread.

This is something I'd never think I'd be doing but after speaking to a few people I do believe its the right thing to do and I'm confident I'll have great results.

I wont mention any names (as I don't know if people want to be mentioned or not), but thank you to the people that have helped me with this. Happy to confirm though if they do pop up and want to say they helped,lol

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They came then..great!

I would avoid doing any sudden or violent neck twisting, this won't help & make just make it worse as the vert can grind against each other if the muscles aren't loose.

Very interested in this mate!

Edit: I see they haven't come yet...they will though.

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They came then..great!

I would avoid doing any sudden or violent neck twisting, this won't help & make just make it worse as the vert can grind against each other if the muscles aren't loose.

Very interested in this mate!

Edit: I see they haven't come yet...they will though.

The Customs Clearance was completed yesterday so hoping by Saturday they will make their way here mate along with my supplies from Exchange Supplies.

As for the neck movement, I wish I could stop it mate. I try not doing it but frustration builds up(best way I can describe it), I get restless as it aches loads and eventually unfortunately I have to do it.

I'm hoping this will help loosen up my muscles,bring them back down to normal size and then eventually I stop doing that.

Will definitely keep the updates up, because if it manages to help me I'm sure it will help anyone no matter what they have. I wouldn't wish my worse enemy to be going through what I am at the moment, its a nightmare mate.

Also interested as my missus has long term issues with her wrists so hopefully it helps her.

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Just my luck. My parcel is being held at the Post Office as I need to pay additional charges, a letter has been sent apparently.:cursing:

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You can do it over the phone mate, ask if you can pay the fee by card as it will save you a few days while the letter arrives.

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You can do it over the phone mate, ask if you can pay the fee by card as it will save you a few days while the letter arrives.

Cheers for the info mate. Just called them up but was told I need the letter as I need to give them the 17 digit security code, grrr.

I was told the charge though, £21.

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Strange, I rang up and paid my £21 over the phone, I think I got the code off the online tracking ? It was 6 months ago though so things may have changed. It won't be too long now though eh.

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Are you injecting into your traps?

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Strange, I rang up and paid my £21 over the phone, I think I got the code off the online tracking ? It was 6 months ago though so things may have changed. It won't be too long now though eh.

Gave them the tracking number but the security number is different, its coming in with parcelforce.

Are you injecting into your traps?

No mate, will be injecting straight into belly fat as it doesn't make any difference and as ita my first time jabbing myself will be much easier.

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Good luck with this! I love the stuff personally.

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No mate, will be injecting straight into belly fat as it doesn't make any difference and as ita my first time jabbing myself will be much easier.

Are you 100% correct on whether site jabs are pointless? SubQ belly jabs are easy, almost fun. I do my AAS cycles through my belly.

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Parcelforce...:cursing:...take ages this lot!

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Agreed, my parcel from Canada ended up taking a month some how! I believe it was in this country nearly a week too.

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Are you 100% correct on whether site jabs are pointless? SubQ belly jabs are easy, almost fun. I do my AAS cycles through my belly.

Yes fella, read various reports saying that SubQ is just fine for it, a nice easy start for me,lol.

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Well, I decided to go pay the charges and pick up my package.

This is how it was packed, don't know how it compares but seems alright to me.

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I have a concern and a pleasant surprise from the order.

The pleasant surprise is they put in an extra bottle of Bacs water for free which was good as I realised I only ordered 1 and would have needed to buy a 2nd one which is brilliant.

The concern is that the bottles say Silicon Dioxide Derivative 2mg on them. Now the powder in there is quite compact and I'm pretty certain its more then 2mg but what about the actual label on the bottles, is it normal to name things something else??

Edit: Just had an email back off them saying it's TB-500 but relabelled for ease of importation.

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Quick update. I have just received my order of all the necessities so I am about to take my first dose.

As previously mentioned, when more then 2mg is needed I will split the injections in multiples of 2 , 4mg = 2 jabs, 6mg = 3jabs.

Quick question about mixing of the TB500. As each vial is 5mg and I will be having 6mg in a day, could I mix that extra 1mg in the vial and then transfer it so I have 6mg in a vial or is best just leave it in the original vial till use??

I will then store all unmixed vials and the Bac water in the fridge, mix as necessary and then off I go.

Anyway, I better get cracking, big breath and all that, I shall come back with the first update once its over and done with,lol.

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Done and dusted, wiped both vials, injected 1.5ml air in the bac water and withdrew relevant amount of water which I put in the TB500 vial.

Wiped the area I would inject, injected 0.6ml air into the TB500 vial and then withdrew the same quantity of liquid after making sure it was all mixed in properly.

For some reason I didn't even second think about it, injected the area straight away with the full liquid,pulled out the syringe and then spent the next 10 minutes trying to work the nevershare needle safe as the needle wouldn't click in to place, actually took me longer doing that then injecting myself,lol.

2mg will be injected early evening now when I'm back from Notts.

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Very keen to see how you get along as I have similar issues.

Hope you have some luck.

How did you decide the dosage?

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interesting log be great to know your results

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Just had my second 2mg shot, it really is easy.

In fact my mrs is genuinely concerned I've done it plenty times before because I found it so easy.

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Very keen to see how you get along as I have similar issues.

Hope you have some luck.

How did you decide the dosage?

interesting log be great to know your results

I will reply properly to both of you but going round a mates for beers so it will be later.

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Day 1

Well that's out of the way, which I'm happy about. As mentioned before I was bricking it a bit due to having to self-administer the TB-500 but actually found it very easy. Obviously don't feel any difference as of yet but its understandable.

I have had my first 2mg shot of today, I will be having the second one early evening and then the 3rd just before I go to bed.

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Very keen to see how you get along as I have similar issues.

Hope you have some luck.

How did you decide the dosage?

The two most common cycles which I read up about is 2mg for 6 weeks and then 2mg a month after that and a similar cycle but with 7mg for the first few weeks.

A very knowledgeable user of this forum(again not mentioning names in case they don't want to be named) though went with the above cycle for his shoulder and within a week he was able to bench 100kg. Now if you calculate the 7mg cycle which is quite common and the one he and I are following it works out roughly at the same dosage.

The 2mg once a week and then once a month just seemed to be for lighter injuries to what I have so I decided to go with the front loading and then the maintenance dose of 2mg a month after the initial 2 months is up.

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