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loss of sex drive after tren/test cycle

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Quick stats I am mid 40's on TRT so no PCT needed never had sex issues before, this being my 3rd cycle.

About 5 weeks ago I came of the cycle as shown below.

400mg Tren E

600mg Test E

50mg proviron e/d

0.5 Anastrozole e/o/d

I did this cycle for 8 weeks, gains were good had a few bad sides with being unable to sleep , my sex drive was through the roof for the first 6 weeks and I mean it was mental I just wanted it ALL the time and could even keep it hard after I had cum and go again almost straight after (I wouldn't cum again but could keep going) However by week 7 sex drive started to drop off and by week 8 I had lost interest but a bit of viagra helped keep things going. I came off the Tren on week 8 and continued with 900mg test E until week 10 hoping this would boost sex drive which it did a bit but not much.

Since mid Aug things have not been too good I can just about manage it (sometimes without viagra sometimes with) but I just have NO LIBIDO I just dont get turned on at all, its like any sexual thoughts and feelings have been removed from my brain.

Since finishing the cycle I am back on my TRT dose of Sus 250 every 14 days. So my test levels will be fine.

I am wondering if I might have too much progesterone or prolactin and would like to know if Caber might help bring things back on track ?

Any help would be good because its a nightmare at the moment, I am waiting for an appointment with an Endo but thats going to be 6 - 8 weeks away.

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I don't know what its like in UK but can you go to the doc a request some bloods? I've found, both on and off cycle, when your progesterone to testosterone ratios are out of whack your libido can drop or completely dissapear.

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Tren is notorious for loss of sex drive, I had a similar cycle, unfortunately even with a proper pct I lost my sex drive for a solid 4 months...it was hell but time heals everything

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I don't know what its like in UK but can you go to the doc a request some bloods? I've found, both on and off cycle, when your progesterone to testosterone ratios are out of whack your libido can drop or completely dissapear.

Yes I have been to see my GP and he is booking me in to see an Endocrinologist but it will be 6 - 8 weeks and I was hoping that someone might come up with a suggestion to try whilst I am waiting. I have heard this Caber does good things but wanted to see whot people say before diving in.

Without getting too into it I can get hard and I can have sex (but I don't WANT it) but my poor Mrs has to be really horny to get me intrested even then nothing happens until I start touching her and even when shes all dressed up and I am doing it to her I could just take it of leave it I just got no sexual feeling it really strange, honestly I could just pull out half way though and watch the tv !!! it ant nice guys I tell you.

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I always run Test Prop with Tren , I also like to run test a couple of weeks longer than the Tren. Not thats it going to help you now.

is that the only side you have now ? obviously u shut down pretty hard

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I always run Test Prop with Tren , I also like to run test a couple of weeks longer than the Tren. Not thats it going to help you now.

is that the only side you have now ? obviously u shut down pretty hard

Hi as my post says I did run the test 2 weeks longer than the tren (I also upped the test from 600mg to 900mg for those 2 extra weeks) The shut down bit doesn't really apply to me as my natural test is shut down anyway which is why I am on TRT, my current test levels will be high end of normal, with 1ml sus 250 every 2 weeks, but it dont matter how much test I do I will still have no sex drive. I ve got some test prop I could shoot that along side my TRT sus to boost my test which I have tried but it makes no differance, I don't think its an Estrogen problem but somthings defo very wrong.

Apart from the complete loss of interest in sex I feel fine, in fact very well, strong in the gym, sleeping well, focused etc etc its just the total loss of interest in sex thats the killer.

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Have you thought of going private to speed things up?

Hi chilisi, I cant afford it tbh, athough I have bupa though my job but they wont touch hormone issues.

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If you can get hard, mkaybe is is an Oestrogen issue, maybe too much or too little, but thats just my guess

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If you can get hard, mkaybe is is an Oestrogen issue, maybe too much or too little, but thats just my guess

Sometimes I can sometimes I can't, sometimes it gets there then half way into sex I lose it, viagra does help but it still isnt rock hard on 50mg viagra. But even when it is hard I still don't feel horny if that makes sence.

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high prolactin can cause loss of sexual function and or libido. so yes i would try caber

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I'm going through something simliar myself, but am off all AAS and Peptides. Teststosterone still is below average. Saw the Endo again today funnily enough, so fingers crossed.

Proviron has worked well for some, for mood/libido change, but it could be a number of things affecting sex drive. I would seriuosly consider other options before using other meds, as Stress for one and anxiety over the problem could be making it worse, could other factors involved?

Are YES I should have made that clear I have NO stress at all, am happy in my marriage (been with Mrs 28 years) she is very fit and pretty too, no money worries, no work worries.

The only worry I have is my loss of libido, it must be some sort of in balance possible caused from the tren. Just hoping someone might be able to shed some light on it thats all.

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Well, prolactin can be an issue but it would have to interfere with your T production and most likely that would be the issue, but men on TRT that is not that likely.

Prolactin is highest after orgasm, and this mainly causes the refractory problems with men, so inhibiting prolactin would shorten refractory periods to allow sex more frequent but I doubt it would influence libido.

No, progesterone could compete with the DHT receptors and hinder libido, but not sure if by now that this would be a factor.

If it was then a trans-dermal preparation of testosterone would probably be fine as this TRT tends to bump up DHT due to contact with hair follicles.

I think there is some DHT creams in Europe somewhere I have read.

Estrogen if too high or too low can cause libido issues and erection issues.

If you are taking an AI then this could be an issue, or if there is some heavy aromitization going on then yes this can cause some libido issues.

I find estrogenic effects the worst by the end of a cycle, banging more test right now might not be the best idea.

Are you still using an AI?

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im running the same cycle as you but with hcg which im hoping will improve libido when i come off, although i dont get much action anyway so wont make a difference

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im running the same cycle as you but with hcg which im hoping will improve libido when i come off, although i dont get much action anyway so wont make a difference

Get married if you want less action:lol:

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Get married if you want less action:lol:

im straight HACKI, sorry to disappoint you :thumbup1:

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TRT tends to bump up DHT due to contact with hair follicles.

I think there is some DHT creams in Europe somewhere I have read.

Estrogen if too high or too low can cause libido issues and erection issues.

If you are taking an AI then this could be an issue, or if there is some heavy aromitization going on then yes this can cause some libido issues.

I find estrogenic effects the worst by the end of a cycle, banging more test right now might not be the best idea.

Are you still using an AI?

Scott, thanks for your help,

I was taking an AI during the cycle as listed (0.5 Anastrozole e/o/d) I stopped the Anastrozole about 3 - 4 weeks ago.

The DHT hair thing is interesting, as when I first came off the cycle I did use Testim Gel for about a week - 10 days before I got the sus 250, I used 2 tubes of Testim everyday mostly on shoulders/arms but sometimes I put a tube on my legs (which are hairy) HOWEVER, I was already suffering with lack of libido before the use of the gel.

I have an armory of stuff hear at home to try which I thought I would list so you know what I have at my disposal, here goes.

Wini 50mg tabs

Proviron 50mg tabs

Anastrozole 1mg tabs

Cabergoline Dostinex .5mg tabs

Sus 250

Test E

Test P

Tren E

HCG 5000iu

Now please bare in mind that despite the almost total loss of libido I feel very well, getting good sleep, no stress in my life at all, happy at home and work, don't drink very often (odd glass odd wine) I eat very well 6 times a day, feel pretty strong when I train 4 days a week, and my wife is very attractive and sex mad lol.

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im running the same cycle as you but with hcg which im hoping will improve libido when i come off, although i dont get much action anyway so wont make a difference

Just out of interest how much hcg and how often you doing it.

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I keep hearing about people losing sex drive on tren, I'm the complete opposite! 5 weeks into a tren ace cycle and I'm horny as fúck! Literally all the time lol the mrs is sore and doesn't like it lol I am running caber 0.25mg e3d though, maybe that makes the difference?

Op- Hope you get it sorted buddy, have you tried proviron?

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I keep hearing about people losing sex drive on tren, I'm the complete opposite! 5 weeks into a tren ace cycle and I'm horny as fúck! Literally all the time lol the mrs is sore and doesn't like it lol I am running caber 0.25mg e3d though, maybe that makes the difference?

Op- Hope you get it sorted buddy, have you tried proviron?

If you re read my post you will see I too WAS AS HORNY AS FCUK for the first 6 weeks then it started to cool off pretty dam quick, yes I was on proviron 50mg e/d as stated. I finished the cycle around mid to late August and it wasn't until September that libido totally stopped.

I hope you don't suffer the same as me bud.

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If you re read my post you will see I too WAS AS HORNY AS FCUK for the first 6 weeks then it started to cool off pretty dam quick, yes I was on proviron 50mg e/d as stated. I finished the cycle around mid to late August and it wasn't until September that libido totally stopped.

I hope you don't suffer the same as me bud.

SHÍTTTT!!!!!!

lol just read it properly! Better get some proviron for next week then lol

It is horrible as I've had it before, hope it sorts itself out quick mate!

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Just out of interest how much hcg and how often you doing it.

once a week at 500 hcg, been advised by several memebrs on here that its the best dose for me

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Well, With the exception of proviron and HCG I don't think the other drugs you have would do much good.

DHEA might be of help.

Not sure really why this is happening, blood work would be a good place to start.

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Well, With the exception of proviron and HCG I don't think the other drugs you have would do much good.

DHEA might be of help.

Not sure really why this is happening, blood work would be a good place to start.

Ok I will be seeing an endo in about 6 - 8 weeks (NHS waiting time) in the mean time should I try 50mg proviron e/d and 500iu hcg e/w ? was going to try .25mg caber e/3/d too.

What you think ?

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Well, for some the HCG does help sex drive, and that might have something to do with pregnenolone, but hard to say as this is something not usual.

I mean this could be something with dopamine or serotonin or something just out in left field.

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Pulsing meaning?

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