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Old 19-07-2005, 03:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Flaxseed oil

I got some flaxseed oil(says linseed oil in bracets on the bottle), holland and barrett make, and decided to throw some in a shake. What can I say? Absolutely rank, and I only used one teaspoon+blended it. How do you guys take it?
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Old 19-07-2005, 12:03 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I got some linseed oil , holland and barrett make, and decided to throw some in a shake. What can I say? Absolutely rank, and I only used one teaspoon+blended it. How do you guys take it?

I just lick mine off a cricket bat
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Old 19-07-2005, 01:33 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Old 19-07-2005, 01:48 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Old 19-07-2005, 02:23 PM   #6 (permalink)
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IMO ditch it and use olive oil and fish oils instead. I have read quite a bit about flax raising estrogen levels.
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Old 19-07-2005, 04:08 PM   #7 (permalink)
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. I have read quite a bit about flax raising estrogen levels.

Been reading similar too:withstupi
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Old 20-07-2005, 02:56 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Plus dont u have to drink loads of it to actually do any good?
Remember being advised on fish oils rather than flax.:axe:
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Old 20-07-2005, 07:31 AM   #9 (permalink)
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IMO ditch it and use olive oil and fish oils instead. I have read quite a bit about flax raising estrogen levels.

Read this too

Chef was saying it takes ALA to help with the flax to get the most benefits from flax.

I myself use fish oils, cheaper and better too.

Flax is a plant that has the highest amount of lignans
Although they have estrogen properties they are good for anticancer.


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Lignans are naturally occurring chemicals widespread within the plant and animal kingdoms. Several lignans—with intimidating names such as secoisolariciresinol—are considered to be phytoestrogens, plant chemicals that mimic the hormone estrogen. These are especially abundant in flaxseed. Bacteria in our intestines convert them into two other lignans, enterolactone and enterodiol, which also have estrogen-like effects. In this article, the term "lignans" refers to these two specific lignans as well as the phytoestrogen kind, but not to the wide variety of other lignans.

Lignans are being studied for possible use in cancer prevention, particularly breast cancer. Like other phytoestrogens (such as soy isoflavones), they hook onto the same spots on cells where estrogen attaches. If there is little estrogen in the body (after menopause, for example), lignans may act like weak estrogen; but when natural estrogen is abundant in the body, lignans may instead reduce estrogen's effects by displacing it from cells. This displacement of the hormone may help prevent those cancers, such as breast cancer, that depend on estrogen to start and develop. In addition, at least one test tube study suggests that lignans may help prevent cancer in ways that are unrelated to estrogen.
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What Is the Scientific Evidence for Lignans?
Cancer Prevention/Treatment
The most promising use for lignans is in cancer prevention. According to Observational studies, people who eat more lignan-containing foods have a lower incidence of breast and perhaps colon cancer.19 This, however, does not prove that lignans are the cause of the benefit, for other factors in these foods, or in the characteristics of the people who consume these foods, may have been responsible. Double-blind, placebo-controlled studies are necessary to prove that a medical treatment provides benefits, and none have yet been reported for lignans. (For information on why this type of study is so important, see Why Does The Natural Pharmacist Rely on Double-blind Studies?)

Nonetheless, animal studies offer additional support for a potential cancer-preventive or even cancer-treatment effect. Several studies showed that lignan-rich foods or lignans found in flax inhibited breast and colon cancer in animals20,21,22 and reduced metastases from melanoma (a type of skin cancer) in mice.23Test tube studies have found that flaxseed or one of its lignans inhibited the growth of human breast cancer cells24 and that the lignans enterolactone and enterodiol inhibited the growth of human colon tumor cells.25

In many of these studies it isn't clear whether lignans are responsible for the benefit seen, as flaxseeds contain many other substances. Animal and human studies have begun to examine specific lignans, and results seem to confirm that at least some of the positive effects probably come from the lignans themselves;26,27,28 still, until more and better designed trials are done, we will not know lignans' precise effects on the human body, or the precise dose needed to prevent cancer.

Cholesterol and Atherosclerosis
Preliminary research in rabbits and humans suggests that lignans may help protect against atherosclerosis, a condition in which fatty deposits line arteries. Lignans may directly provide such protection, or possibly indirectly by reducing high cholesterol, a risk factor for atherosclerosis.

Studies in rabbits found that both flaxseed and one of its lignans, secoisolariciresinol diglucoside, were able to decrease atherosclerosis;29,30 the lignan also lowered the rabbits' cholesterol, but flaxseed by itself did not. In contrast, several human studies, two of them double-blind, found that flaxseed lowered cholesterol—both total cholesterol and low-density lipoproteins (LDL, or"bad") cholesterol.31,32,33 However, it is entirely possible that other flaxseed components such as its fiber, oil, or proteins, rather than the lignans alone, contributed to the drop in cholesterol.34,35 Again, more research is needed to determine whether lignans themselves play a role in reducing cholesterol and atherosclerosis.
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Old 21-07-2005, 04:13 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I thought you used to be a big fan of flaxseed oil hacks? Fish oils it is...
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Old 21-07-2005, 05:07 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I thought you used to be a big fan of flaxseed oil hacks? Fish oils it is...

Use to. not the oil but the seed, I used to put it in the protein shakes, bought it in bulk.

But after further reading and studying, I found the fish oils to not only be better but much cheaper.

Now if I was a chick (which I am not), I would use flax and evening primrose oil.
But because I am a man then those are now a no, no.
Plus, Chef was talking about having to use ALA to allow the flax to be more usable.
I cant acutally remember if it was ALA or LA, I think ALA tho.
Could pop over to his board and get the proper answer.

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u love that evening primose oil really helps when that 'monthly tension' comes around :p

with u, big and SA12 on this one - fish oils all the way, much more benefits i could copy and paste away but i think the consensus of this post proves the point ;)

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