Timmy Smooth

HMB is banned over here now, yes? I've seen it advertised for sale online. One such place is 1fast400. What's the legal status with importing it from these sites? Are they likely to be delivered? I also noticed that this particular site has ephedrine, too. Do you guys think that HMB would be a usefull addition in PCT?

ChefX

hmb is worthless (IMO)

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Timmy Smooth

How so?

ChefX

Timmy

IMO it is worthless because it doesn't do anything. The original HMB product in the initial Swedish studies was not plant based, it showed promie. All of the current HMB on the market is the plant based stuff and it doesn't work. So for the money spent to return ratio it is worthless. BUT that is only IMO.

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Timmy Smooth

I see, thanks. Do you know why it's banned in the UK? Was there originally products that were lab formulated, but now you only get the plant derived ones? Would appreciate help in understanding the compound, thanks CfX.

ChefX

Timmy I'll dig some stuff up a bit later. But just to give you an idea think of who brough it to market (cough cough TC Land Bill P cough cough)

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Timmy Smooth

"Cough cough"

OK, CfX, thanks.

ChefX

beta-hydroxy-beta-methyl butyrate

One example (there are no peer reviewed human studies only animal studiews)
'Feeding HMB increased daily gain of steers slaughtered at 105 days but decreased daily gain of steers slaughtered at 147 days and HMB tended to increase the ratio of intramuscular fat to subcutaneous fat - this means the animals gained more fat but in the muscle, so it doesn't show on the skin fold but it does show in health. Also note that the animals actually lost weight a bit later, but in the study they lost muscle not fat.

So anyway I turned to some people I know and asked what they knew about HMB just to get another opinion. The answers were quite funny. Two of these guys are big time olympic coaches and they said HMB was and always is a joke. Enough said there. The Last guy I asked this morning was a researcher for human performance (one of my relatives) his conversations started out like, of that **** that Bill P tried to scam on the public... I'll leave out the rest of that conversation. Point being, all 3 of these guys will use with their clients anything and everything that works or even hints at working, none of them like HMB. As I said, IMO its a scam.
cheers

(by the way the coughing is real, I have a weakend immune system due to treatment and I caught one hell of a nasty cold. I'm sick as I have ever been at this point, thank goodness for a laptop and xbox. LOL)

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