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10-03-2005, 08:14 PM
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    | Goat colostrum... I can buy this stuff strait from the farm. Has anyone of you guys bought this stuff before. I really was wondering how much you pay. I can get it but it is kindof expensive. After massive research, I want to try some of this stuff out in rather large amounts. I have tried the Bovine but not goat colostrum. Beings as I can get it raw and not processed in any way I am looking foreward to trying it. It costs about $20.00 for 4 oz. I was wondering what the average price is over there.
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10-03-2005, 08:19 PM
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| I have used the cow colostrum: http://www.reflex-nutrition.com/prod...ument_15_6.php 120 caps were about £15 I think. It did absolutely nothing for me whatsoever so I didn't get any more after that. I am not sure if goat colostrum would do anything different. Do you have reason to believe it's superior? |
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10-03-2005, 08:25 PM
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 | yep my training partner tried the sameones as big..did **** all...
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11-03-2005, 03:05 AM
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| Im getting it by the quart.... That stuff in capsule is $1.00 a capsule and they say to take between 3-35 capsules a day. Im not looking at that. I get this from a guy at work and I can get alot. I dont think you can get several ounces from a pill. No way. Fresh, not pill, free range goats. This is a guys pets. I was just wondering if any of the guys have bought the stuff strait from the goat? If so how much?
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11-03-2005, 02:45 PM
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12-03-2005, 06:47 PM
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| Yah my buddy raises goats and he said he just threw some of that stuff away. I have done lots of reading on this subject and even have tried it a few times but for the price I can get it I should not pass it up. Problem lyes with the process. I can get it raw and it should be frozen just after it is milked. It can stay good for over a year frozen. 6-8 hours at room temperature. So, I will get it frozen. It does have IGF-1 and alot of other things not to mention all digestive enzymes. Can boost immune system so this might work well for post cycle with a depressed immune system. Does contain some protein too, but that is not what I am getting it for. Im getting it for the IGF-1 Read a book about a lady cureing her self of a bunch of illnesses and she swore by it. She was in really bad health and she recovered well. She got hers raw too. Heat distroys this stuff. Goat colostrum is better than cow colostrum. It runs for over $1.00 per capsule in the store but Im going to buy it by the quart.
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12-03-2005, 07:31 PM
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12-03-2005, 09:28 PM
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| the profile is different colostrum works pretty good but the cost, man the cost I wish you luck (by the way Now is when you should research satellite cell proliferation and hyperplasia since that is where colostrum exerts its effect)
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13-03-2005, 01:33 AM
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| :confused: HUH?  This guy was throwing it away. Only after I told him of the benefits of it did he start to think about money. I should not have told him anything but I wanted it. Seriously, I can get this stuff by the bucketfull. Goat cholostrum is diffrent than Cow. Dog breaders stand in line for this stuff. nothing but the best for their show dogs. Goat milk is less lactose irritant too on people and goat milk has more minerals than cows milk. Goat milk also is more accepted by people that have problems drinking cows milk. I can get the goat milk Raw, or Pasturized. I think I am going to pick up some of the raw and see how it goes.
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13-03-2005, 01:34 AM
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| Here is a read me from a manufacturer who sells goat colostrum. Granted the capsule is over $1.00 each, and I can get it by the bucket full. WHAT IS COLOSTRUM™? Colostrum is the fluid manufactured by the body prior to the production of mother's milk during the first 24-48 hours after birth. Research has shown that Colostrum has powerful life-supporting immune and growth factors that insure the health and vitality of the newborn. It brings the body into a natural state of equilibrium called "homeostasis", vital to health and well being. While supporting healthy immune function, Colostrum also enables us to resist the harmful effects of pollutants, contaminants and allergens. In addition, the growth factors in Colostrum enhance the ability of a healthy organism to burn fat, build lean muscle mass and rejuvenate skin and cellular structure. HOW DOES COLOSTRUM WORK? Colostrum is highly beneficial in the unique manner in which it provides the body with numerous immune factors. According to medical research, the presence of a wide spectrum of immunoglobulins, antibodies, and potent immune and growth factors found in Colostrum, offers tremendous therapeutic potential for overall health and wellness. Studies show that Colostrum has the unique ability to support normal cell growth and tissue repair, providing exciting, new possibilities for system-wide rejuvenation. Aging and illness occur with the gradual loss of immune and growth factors in the body after maturity. The onset of almost all infections and degenerative disease, is preceded or accompanied by lowered immune system function. Colostrum contains powerful immune factors (immunoglobulin, lactoferrin, cytokines, etc.) that work to restore optimal immune functioning. Colostrum also contains PRP, shown in clinical studies to both enhance an underactive immune system and balance an overactive tendency. Doctors recognize that most pathogens enter the body through the mucous membranes in the bowel, then through to the intestinal tract. GOATElN™ IG COMES "BODY READY The smaller molecules of goat's milk are closer in size and composition to human milk, making it easier to digest. Goat's milk is also substantially less allergenic than cow's milk in sensitive individuals. Additionally, the protein portion GOATEIN™ IG is pre-digested through a lactic acid fermentation process to make it even more bio-available without damaging the immunoglobulins while virtually eliminating it's lactose content. Research has shown that milk proteins that have been pre-digested through lacto-fermentation are more efficiently absorbed as those of non-fermented milk. During the fermentation process many digestive enzymes are created that aid in the assimilation of food nutrients. In THE MILK BOOK, William Campbell Douglass, M.D. states that the protein contained in cultured (lacto- fermented) dairy products is the very highest quality available for human consumption. GOATElN™ IG is MINIMALLY PROCESSED Most other milk based protein powders and colostrums are made from cow's milk and, even though they claim to be "minimally processed," some use destructive methods, involving high temperatures. These approaches denature many important amino acids and DESTROY enzymes and beneficial bacteria. Because GOATEIN™ IG is processed without the use of acid or excessive heat, the amino acids, enzymes and beneficial bacteria remain in their natural form. Most colostrum products are produced on farms and then shipped hundreds or even thousands of miles for processing. The colostrum used in GOATEIN™ IG is processed at low temperatures and dried on site while still at the farm. This guarantees high activity. GOATEIN™ IG IS HIGH IN IMMUNOPROTEINS.These building blocks of proteins are crucial for proper immune system function. Because GOATEIN™ IG is processed without excessive heat or acids, it contains biologically active Cystine, Glycine, and Glutamic Acid in tripeptide form. The combination of these three amino acids produces Glutathione. Glutathione functions as a principal antioxidant, scavenging free radicals and environmental toxins such as lipid peroxides that can damage and destroy healthy cells. GOATEIN™ IG also provides Immune supportive agents called immunoglobulins; including IgA, IgD, IgE, IgG, and IgM. These antibodies naturally fight off bacteria, viruses, allergens and yeast. One of the most important ingredients in colostrums is the IgF-1 substance. This immunoglobulin has been studied for its ability to stimulate healing, promote muscle growth and aid in the production of immune cells. It also helps to stabilize blood sugar levels, similar to the function of insulin, and it can increase the body's fat burning potential."Immunoglobulins (found in colostrums) are able to neutralize the most harmful bacteria, viruses, and yeasts." Dr. Per Brandtzaeg; Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences. GOATEIN™ IG contains an additional army of immunoproteins including PRP (Proline-Rich Polypeptide) which supports and regulates the thymus gland, Lactoferrin a protein that transports essential iron to the red blood cells and prevents harmful bacteria from utilizing the iron they require to grow and flourish, Lactalbumins which research indicates may be highly effective against numerous viruses. GOATEIN™ IG CONTAINS BIOACTIVE PEPTlDES AND GROWTH FACTORS. The powerful combination of dietary peptides and growth factors makes GOATEIN™ IG an extremely important supplement for people with compromised digestion, the elderly, and those suffering from malnutrition and muscle wasting. Dietary peptides have been shown to suppress abnormal immune cell activity and minimize the damaging side effects of radiation and chemotherapy. The amino acid L tryptophane can be effective in cases of insomnia and depression. Glutamine, an important amino acid for building lean body mass and immune health, is not effectively absorbed when taken in combination with other amino adds due to competitive absorption. However, when the glutamine is bonded with a peptide, as it is in GOATEIN™ IG, it's absorbed many hundreds of times better. The glutamine contained in GOATEIN™ IG aids in the body's ability to repair itself after intense workouts or injury. Medical studies have shown that growth factors in Colostrum can help the body: Regenerate normal growth of muscle, bone, cartilage, skin, collagen and nerve tissue. Help burn fat for fuel instead of muscle tissue during dieting. Help build and retain lean muscle. Synthesize DNA and RNA. Balance and regulate blood sugar levels. Heal burns, cuts, abrasions and mouth sores with topical application. Help regulate blood glucose levels and "brain chemicals", providing alertness and better concentration. GOATEIN™ IG CONTAINS POWERFUL PROBIOTICS and DIGESTIVE ENZYMES including protease, amylase, lipase and lactase. These enzymes contribute to the health of the digestive tract and can increase the utilization of GOATEIN™ IG as well as other dairy foods. Each serving of GOATEIN™ IG contains probiotics in a base of lacto fermented goat's milk protein combined with goat's milk colostrum. Fermentation by lactic acid bacteria creates biologically active lactic acid that plays a major role in energy production and fat burning. This lactic acid is also essential for proper pH balance of the gastrointestinal tract and other bodily tissue. Many of the healthiest and longest living people in the world have consumed lacto-fermented dairy products and attribute their Iongevity to this remarkable food. Research has shown that regular consumption of cultured (lacto-fermented) dairy products lowers cholesterol and protects against bone loss.
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13-03-2005, 02:41 AM
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| Goat milk rules! So does goat meat, it will be one of the meats used in the Diatia for India when I put it out. Great post Hakskii
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13-03-2005, 04:27 AM
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16-03-2005, 03:51 PM
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| Bump... Picked up 40 oz of goat colostrum yesterday. Taking 4 oz a day in the morning first thing. Stuff is really thick and actually tasts pretty good. It is as thick as heavy cream. I will take this for 10 days and see how it all goes. Supposedly high in IGF-1............. It is expensive, I shouldnt have told the guy how good the stuff was.
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16-03-2005, 08:08 PM
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| This stuff sounds really good Hacks, keep us posted mate. SD
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