fits

I got some of this stuff, just as a test, it gives a little info about it but not alot, non infact on the tub it comes in! i got them from http://hwize.com/health_start/startframe.html they are 6250mg tabs and it just says to take one per day on the tub, 2 or 3 tabs if told to by a doctor.

When would you guys take? before workout? before bed? Mornings?

Just one tab or maybe more?

Cheers.

ONE SMART COOKIE

Take 4 aday mate 2 twice aday one dose in a morning 2hrs away from milk or dairy products and 2 more last thing at night,same again 2 hrs away from dairy products,take them for about 4-6 weeks and have 2 weeks off.

A mate of mine had to use 6 aday but he`s 19 stone,first thing he noticed was an increase in pumps from a workout then at about the end week 2 his sex drive started to rise.

Hope this helps.

fits

Thanks allot mate, ill start upping th dose now!!!

cheers!

fits

Are they the only differencies he noticed? any extra energy? power? or have i just got myself some Viagra? lol

ONE SMART COOKIE

He basically uses it for after a cycle to keep strength and size up and to stimulate his own natural test levels back to normal.

Personelly I noticed and increased recovery rate from heavy workouts.

Aftershock

Whats the logic in doing 4-6 weeks on then 2 weeks off?

Im not being argumentative id just like to know. I would have thought that because it stimulates natural test as opposed to surpressing like juice it could be beneficial to stay on it.

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ONE SMART COOKIE

The body likes to keep everything in homeostasis(all the same) so it dislikes changes so coming off stops it from doing something to lower your elevated test levels like shutting down your own or upping cortisone production,in the long run if you were to use it all the time you`d burn out.

Aftershock

Thanks for that cookie much appreciated

So if ur using several test boosters, eg zma, tribirus, (plus im using post cycle and unleashed from protein factory.com) whould you recommend stopping them all together for two weeks, then starting again?

Or would you for example stop the triburus for two weeks while running everything else, then reintroduce the tribirus and stop something else for two weeks and so on?

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ONE SMART COOKIE

Yep come off them all and give the body a good neaded rest.

winger

Bump.....OSC you better start posting more. Your knowledge is spot on;)

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ONE SMART COOKIE

I`ll try winger me old buddy,and happy birthday pal(hacki as well)sorry I missed it just been poorly all week been for some blood work doing so things a bit rough at the moment.

As another note in all reality you should never take any supplement for more than 3 weeks ata time without a week off(they dont tell you that on your supp packs)as this helps to reduce the chance of toxic overload with the amounts bbers take and keeps the body sensitive to the supplements so you dont need to keep cranking up the doses.

winger

First off thank you very much. You have no idea how much that meant to me.
I dont take any supps.
What blood tests are you taking? Dont scare me mate. If you ever want to talk just let me know;)

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hackskii

Correct here. Homeostasis is the body trying to get back to where it likes to be. The body is super smart.
Taking the time off on trib is like having a cheat day while dieting.

Thanks too cookie for the happy birthday.
Hope you are ok.

Good post cookie.

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Aftershock

Right guys thanks for all the replies.

Now here’s something else for you to chew over. I understand completely what has been said above, but would the situation be different if you had just finished PCT after coming off a cycle.

I'll explain my logic.
I've completed my cycle and today is the last day of PCT, I've been using zma, tribirus, post cycle and unleashed all alongside the clomid and Nova

Now teven though I've practically finished PCT my natural test levels are still going to be low. So I’m thinking if I continue the test boosters for say another month, my test levels are still not going to be high enough for any kind of negative feedback loop or shutdown to occur. Obviously there comes a time when you have to have a break I appreciate that.

So what do you think, does the situation vary if your trying to boost back to baseline test levels, rather than push above them?

Cheers, ;-)

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winger

Well I took some stuff called t-bomb and I still had low tes levels 9 months later. Now my pct wasn't spot on but I would think without any pct my levels should have been back. I wouldn't mess with it buts thats just me.

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