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Lost Soul · 16-06-2008, 06:35 PM

http://www.omega3sealoil.com/Chapter4_3c.html

some linked studies in there

thestudbeast · 16-06-2008, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by hackskii

I knew there was an efficiency problem but I didnt know it was as low as 6%.
If you have that study, I would love to read it.

The conversion rate varies from study to study. It seems to be better for women on all angles IMO

krill oil does look promising.

marc5180 · 16-06-2008, 07:22 PM

Lost Soul that wasn't me being facetious. Why in most of your posts are you so angry? You must have a very stressfull job then come home and take it out on us newbies.

kaz28 · 16-06-2008, 07:32 PM

so can you just take as much as you want then? more the better? I am currently taking udos oil..health shop regularly has veridian sports oil on offer so sometims have that instead...are these both ok then in high doses???

Lost Soul · 16-06-2008, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by marc5180

Lost Soul that wasn't me being facetious. Why in most of your posts are you so angry? You must have a very stressfull job then come home and take it out on us newbies.

Your not a newbie though are you?
I thought you were a Growth Hormone user? They dont tend to be newbies?

anyhow

Its not a case of being angry its a case of me, and many others offering support and advice to people who then, a week or so later, surface again talking in the same way and not heeding any of the advice or reading any of the links given.
People offer support for free and when you do that and people don't bother it becomes frustrating when they return with similar posts

So, in short here are some google words for you:

john berardi
chris aceto
udo erasmus
westside barbell
bill starr

beyond that you should have only a very few questions and they will display the traits of an erudite trainer

marc5180 · 16-06-2008, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Lost Soul

Your not a newbie though are you?
I thought you were a Growth Hormone user? They dont tend to be newbies?

Yet another dig, when do you stop?

**hackskii** · 16-06-2008, 08:49 PM

I answer the same questions because I have short term memory loss and forget that they already asked it.......lol

Thanks for the link LS, I didnt know that certain poplulations like the Welsh-Irish may not effectivly convert ALA to EPA in the body.
There were other peoples but I think that was funny...

bb the great · 16-06-2008, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by hackskii

I answer the same questions because I have short term memory loss and forget that they already asked it.......lol

Thanks for the link LS, I didnt know that certain poplulations like the Welsh-Irish may not effectivly convert ALA to EPA in the body.
There were other peoples but I think that was funny...

doh, im welsh with some distant irish family. but what does that actually mean? just tried to google it but i came up with a few studies, too much for my brain to handle, just got in from work!

**hackskii** · 16-06-2008, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bb the great

doh, im welsh with some distant irish family. but what does that actually mean? just tried to google it but i came up with a few studies, too much for my brain to handle, just got in from work!

Just that some populations cant convert ALA to EPA very effectivly, North American natives, Inuits, Orientals, Norwegians, and Welsh-Irish.
I wouldnt worry about it, get some fish oils to get your DHA and EPA, it is cheaper than Udo's and flax oils, with a much better profile of Omega 3's.

thestudbeast · 16-06-2008, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kaz28

so can you just take as much as you want then? more the better? I am currently taking udos oil..health shop regularly has veridian sports oil on offer so sometims have that instead...are these both ok then in high doses???

Just make sure to split the dose with your meals. I can't see any problems for women using udo's in high doses.

kaz28 · 16-06-2008, 10:45 PM

I believe you are suppose to take 2-3tps twice daily. Is more better then? I mix mine with whey protein is this ok also?

thestudbeast · 16-06-2008, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by kaz28

I believe you are suppose to take 2-3tps twice daily. Is more better then? I mix mine with whey protein is this ok also?

3 tps will be enough there will be little benefit over that level, after that add other oils from extra virgin olive oil (get one in a dark bottle), virgin coconut oil, eating oily fish and whole free range eggs. Plus almonds aren't too bad either but they need soaking for 8 hours before eating so they are a bit of a pain. Mixing it with protein powder is fine.

Lost Soul · 17-06-2008, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by marc5180

Yet another dig, when do you stop?

When people read the links given and it reflects in the questions asked rather than not and asking the same things time and time again

need2getbigger · 17-06-2008, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Lost Soul

Maybe you could, even more likely to do so if you read the advice and links i and others have given in the past rather than being a petulant child and expecting to be spoon fed and having outbursts like the one above.

Mate how many times have i told you don`t beat around the bush come straight out with it...

Lin · 17-06-2008, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by kaz28

I believe you are suppose to take 2-3tps twice daily. Is more better then? I mix mine with whey protein is this ok also?

Here is an email I recieved Kaz from Udo's, don't do what I did and take it from the spoon, it'll make you retch like other things women swallow

Thank you for your enquiry. The answer to your question is yes......and no! Udo's Choice Ultimate Oil Blend is a blend of cold-pressed, organic seed, oils rich in Essential Fatty Acids (EFAs), and EFAs have a unique role to play in healthy weight management. EFAs obviously do have a calorific value, but the body has many other uses for them that are prioritised before burning them for fuel (or, indeed, laying them down as body fat), and they include the following:
EFAs are used to construct the phospho-lipid membrane that surrounds every cell in the body; this membrane controls the flow of oxygen and nutrients into the cell, and waste and toxins out of the cell - when it is properly constructed and functioning optimally, every cell in the body can fire on all cylinders, so to speak.
EFAs are used by the body to produce anti-inflammatory prostaglandins (micro-hormonal systems) that can reduce the inflammation and water retention that often forms a substantial proportion of excess weight.
EFAs consumed with food slow the gastric emptying time, which reduces the rate at which digested food passes into the small intestine for absorption. This reduces the glycaemic index of a meal, impacting positively on blood sugar regulation and body-fat storage.
EFAs operate in the body to 'switch on' fat burning genes and 'switch off' or down-modulate fat storing genes, thus encouraging a higher proportion of lean mass.
EFAs are used by the body to make brain tissue as well as the myelin sheath that is wrapped around every major nerve - the myelin sheath supports the transfer of nerve impulses up and down the nervous system. The outcome of this is that ensuring an adequate supply of EFAs lifts mood, and supports the emotional and mental determination that the effective dieter needs! Also, emotionally and mentally driven food cravings also reduce
EFAs have been trialled with athletes and produce increased stamina and reduced recovery times, so helped magnify the benefits of the exercise regime that is a vital part of a weight management programme.

To summarise, then, EFAs support the oxygenation and detoxification of every cell in the body, reduce inflammation and water retention, improve blood sugar regulation, lift mood and reduce cravings, promote fat burning and discourage fat storage, and improve stamina. The amount of EFAs consumed is important, and generally more than most people consume. Udo recommends 1 x 15ml tablespoon per 50lb/25kg of body weight, consumed with food and split between all three meals. The addition of a good quality multivitamin/multimineral and an antioxidant supplement would ensure a reliable supply of the nutrtional co-factors required to make the most of the EFAs consumed.

I hope the above is both comprehensible and useful - please do not hesitate to come back to me if I can be of any further assistance.

With regards,

Melanie Mascall

Hope this helps Kaz

Lin x

16-06-2008, 07:22 PM	#18 (permalink)
marc5180 wanna be big Join Date: May 2007 Location: lancashire Posts: 88	Re: Supplements instead of fish Lost Soul that wasn't me being facetious. Why in most of your posts are you so angry? You must have a very stressfull job then come home and take it out on us newbies. __________________ My Journal To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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kaz28 Gym Addict Join Date: May 2008 Location: South Wales Posts: 256	Re: Supplements instead of fish so can you just take as much as you want then? more the better? I am currently taking udos oil..health shop regularly has veridian sports oil on offer so sometims have that instead...are these both ok then in high doses??? __________________ Fitness Freak

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hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 23,172	Re: Supplements instead of fish I answer the same questions because I have short term memory loss and forget that they already asked it.......lol Thanks for the link LS, I didnt know that certain poplulations like the Welsh-Irish may not effectivly convert ALA to EPA in the body. There were other peoples but I think that was funny... __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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kaz28 Gym Addict Join Date: May 2008 Location: South Wales Posts: 256	Re: Supplements instead of fish I believe you are suppose to take 2-3tps twice daily. Is more better then? I mix mine with whey protein is this ok also? __________________ Fitness Freak

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