hackskii

Have you had bloods done to confirm you have estrogen that is out of range?

Diet and lifestyle do play a big part, if one drinks it can elivate estrogen, many foods have phytoestrogens in them too.
Cruciferous vegetables, have an influence on estrogen (good).

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thestudbeast

My bloods come back on friday (not looking forward to the results), I got gynecomastia in my teen years thats stayed with me and my body fat storage places indicate high estrogen.

I don't drink, phytoestrogen's will lower estrogen if you have high estrogen already as they compete for receptor space and are weaker than natty estrogen. I already eat pleanty of veg and when I use an AI my bodyfat storage starts to change. I'd say it's a safe bet, I will know for sure soon.

hackskii

Do you notice any libido issues when it is high, or with the use of an AI?

So is puberty gyno related to the T to E ratio, or are you just more sensitive to estrogen now?

I am not sure if you do gear but would this be an indicator that you might be gyno prone if you did gear?

Sorry for the thousand questions, I am just curious.

I asked my Dr to do a hormonal profile and he asked me what I wanted checked.
He did the normal stuff like blood glucose and cholesterol and serum test, but I asked him to do estrogen and the dude started cracking up at me.
I told him I was serious and he tried to explain that it is not necessary.
Then I told him that I drink and he told me flat out that I dont need it checked..........Damn........He told me to lose weight, im like gee thanks, you wont test what I ask for then insult me.

Which AI do you use?

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thestudbeast

My libido is normally high and stupidly high on a AI. I believe the theory is that I should have more receptors than most people hence the puberty gyno.

Ye I've done gear and won't run test at a high level again until this problem is solved, well infact I'm not really going to use much of anything till I know some more facts. When I run test at 500mg I need to run a-dex at high levels to keep on top of things, it could be that I produce more estrogen or it could be that I'm more sensitive to it. I'm hoping to get some answers now my GP wants to play ball.

MY GP is doing a full test on estrogens, test prolactin fsh etc. She did not want to guess the cause so went for everything.

I've used a few different AI's, I like ATD and A-dex, I'll run letro next time I cut with a very low dose of test (150mg pw

hackskii

I am not gyno prone at all, but once when I was using HCG on its own with no AI or SERM, I got gyno symptoms in just one day.

It can be either the ratio of T to E, or just excess estrogen.

With some blood work this will give you a big picture.

If the AI you are using increases libido, then it is quite possible that you might be past the upper end of normal.
I am surprised you noticed this, most people dont pay attention to the smaller details.

There are other compounds that probably you would be ok with.

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thestudbeast

The devils in the detail ;)

hackskii

LOL, most do not notice any detail...........
You are on of the few that do........
That is one awesome thing for those that do............

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Toregar

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