bronson

Really?

I used to do them but I found them to be expensive after a while.

Takes me about 5 minutes to get home from the gym and I have a good meal.

I mean people were big before protein shakes came out surely?

If anyone disagrees and thinks I should loosen the purse strings let me know!:lift:

Geo

Have a read dude, From someone who know's his stuff. There Very Important.

http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/nutrition...nutrition.html

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DB

honestly if money is an issue.. i see absolutely no problem with having a banana PWO then 10-15mins later when you're home having chicken/steak with rice/spuds and some veggies... far better than a ****y protein shake imo

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bronson

Money's not a huge issue, but i'm working a minimum wage job hoping to get into university next year. My main thought, is for the price of one shake, I could get at least 100g of chicken breast. To me food > protein shakes. But if it goes straight to my muscle and I see a huge difference I may continue to use them.

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Protein shakes are the one, but only if you put enough decent stuff in them to make a difference. Mine is as follows;

30g hwp
18g dextrose
35g malo
2g fructose
5g creatine mono
10g bcaa or 15g eaa or 5g leucine
2g dlpa
0.8 electrolytes
0.6 NAC
0.5 vitamin c

^ The shizzle.

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DB

food is far more important that shakes

1 pro peptied or some other equally extortionate protein powder costs over £1 a shake, u can get a dozen eggs for that....

u tell me what is gonna give better gains?...

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MXD

Well which one do you think!?...

A hydrolysed protein blend and high gi sugar combo will produce more insulin and therefore be more anabolic and anti catabolic.

Alsoyou have to take into account how fast eggs or whey blunt cortisol and signal muscle growth.

HWP signals protein synthesis in 25 mins eggs in about 90, also fats pwo will do nothing to raise insulin levels and therefore not stopping you going catabolic.

You can obviously say that food is better than shakes and be right 90% of the time, BUT in the pwo window there are distinct advantages of a liquid beverage.

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just drink the eggs......don't cook them. Or nuke them for 30 seconds.

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DB

honestly mate i have read so many bullsh1t studies saying this and that all conflicting each other so i go on my own experience...

2 bananas followed 15-25 mins later with 7eggs (2whole) 100g oats gives me far better gains that protein shake... and with all those ingredients u put in yours its just a waste of money mate...

go out and have a nice big steak PWO with a fat jacket spud instead of your 15 ingredient filled protein shake and in a month report back with what makes u grow better...

this window of oppertunity PWO is a myth... you dont ache for 90 mins after your workout.. you sometimes ache for 5 days.. the pain is your muscles showing you they are damaged and want correct nutrition 24/7 to recover..what u have in the 'PWO window' is irrelevant aslong as some food is down your neck imo

dont get me wrong i have a protein shake PWO as i am either:

1. Being lazy
2 Taking insulin so need fast carbs

but when if i train at the weekends (so dont have to take a million food boxes to work) i'll have real food PWO

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ParaManiac

Agree with the above.

Since my switch to sweet potato and eggs pwo,both my recovery and physique have improved.For info i also sip bcaa's throughout the workout.

As DB has stated,pwo is important,however,it's your complete diet that influences progress not what you consume immediately after training.IME as long as carbs,protein and fat are present you will do just fine.

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If I train on a day when I'm not working I'll always have real food PWO - satisfies me so much more than a sh1tty shake.

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saint72

seems like a decent thread to post a question I have been wanting to ask.

I am carb cycling so on 3 days when I train I only have a 50g cho limit, this makes it impossible to have a banana or some corn flour in a shake pwo, just curious if this is actually doing more harm than good and if I should add some extra carbs above 50 purely to get some in after a workout?

bronson

Some good replies to my original posts, thanks guys.

To be honest, I think I will buy just whey.

On the days I make PB on my lifts I might have a banana and a whey shake. I still can't decide whether I want to start this again. I see the point behind it, but I kinda like being the dude who doesn't have shakes and is still pretty strong.

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Tinytom

Best option is a Protein shake

I just have 2 scoops of whey and Vitargo

and a slin shot

When you think about it not going out on a evening will pay for your months supply of protein so depends how committed you are to looking good

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Tinytom

Nopt quite the shizzle but I see where you are coming from, some adjustment should give you a better workout

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