budgie

all from my protien, would like to give these a bash in the new year but would like advice first on them.

whey blend strawberry 2 5lb refil bags.
creapure 300g
a tub of daily vitamins
tribulas pro
zinc and magnesium tabs

is it worth getting the last 2 items, or going for something like tbomb11 or mstack11 or epistane, i want to try some sort of test boster.the diff in price for triulas pro to the others i mentioned are quite substantial.
so what you think. or another ? whats the diff between whey blend and isolate ?
thanks budgie, and have a succesfull newyear
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Merouria

Hey Budgie, the first 3 items on your list are spot on. Don't be afraid to have a couple if not 3 of your multi vits a day as your body will need more nutrients that a none training guy. As for the Trib ... i would drop that and buy something like Universal Animal Stak2 as i find it a good natural test booster. ZMA definatley! I get good sleep and some strength gains whilst on a zinc and magnesium supplement. I think the difference between whey blend and isolate as far as i know is that 'blend' is a few different types of whey mixed together. Like concentrate and isolate. Isolate is absorbed quicker and would be my personal choice. Hope i have helped, good luck with the training!

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budgie

thanks merouria ye chears m8,i yhink i will drop the last 2 and splash out on this http://www.bodyshapersfitness.com/pr...idproduct=1068

it was this or animall mstack
any other builders thoughts on these 2 supps.
the ingredients in tbomb allready have zma in it,and it as estrogen blockers.
what do you all think
thanks budgie

Merouria

Never seen TBomb before it looks pretty good though, might try it after i finish my Sci Mentor T120+

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Ive used it, its good

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mars1960

Personally i only use whey before bed.
Vit B complex on waking.
Rest of the time, you can't beat the real stuff.
Chicken,red meat,tuna etc.
Forgot that damn burger.

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ParaManiac

Pre bed is a time i would not be using whey,especially on its own,find a slower release protein.

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TH&S

Its better than nothing... But I'm not 100% convinced about all this hydrolysed/caseinated stuff personally... I don't see that it matters that much.

Par example - I don't ask my butcher if the beef I'm eating will be faster or slower digesting than a WPC blend shake

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mars1960

I don't use it on its own, i mix 50g with a pint of green top.
Does it matter which type of whey, IE the cheap stuff with a high fat and lactose content or an isolate for EG, what else would you recommend instead PARA?
Cheers.

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ParaManiac

Agreed but if you have a choice why not make a better one.

cottage cheese,miscellar casein,milk protein concentrate with an efa source are my choices.

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mars1960

Cheers, i just wondered wether there's enough fat in the milk to sufficiently slow the absorbtion of the whey, if not i guees i could take a spoonful of peanut butter as well.

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ParaManiac

I think you are wasting both your time and money by using Whey for this meal.
Neither milk or peanut butter will delay the effects of whey to see you through 7 or 8 hrs.Plus you are taking in unnecessary sugars with milk.

If you are determined to have whey then throw some on a bowel of oats.

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TH&S

To be honest I'd always have the last meal of the day as solid food.

From memory the water in the whey shake will slow down the digestion, but I don't have any details to hand of speed of digestion of whey vs casein.

But you're better of having a solid food meal before bed IMHO, and bracketting whey around your workout or when you wake.

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mars1960

Thanks lads, taken onboard, but para, no way am i putting whey on my "bowels".

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Hi,

If you are looking for a high performance multi vitamin made for athletes take a look at our total performance multi vitamin. This is as high quality as they come!

The daily vitamins aren't designed for athletes, but still would cover any "unsupplemented bases". Any more questions just ask!

Thanks

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