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robin_3_16 · 06-07-2004, 10:39 PM

i am changing to more supplements now
things have slipepd abit and when work comes back into a nice regular routine i am going to be buying some supplements want advice on what though
i was thinking
optimum oil blend
creatine glutamine
maltodextrine and wheywhat do u guys think?
also have anmy of you tried liquid creatine heard it is great expensive but worth it!
thanks guys!

**hackskii** · 06-07-2004, 11:09 PM

I heard the liquid creatine was all hype.
V12
Fish oils (cheaper)
Glutamine but v12 has that in it.

robin_3_16 · 06-07-2004, 11:16 PM

oooh its expensive but kills 2 birds with one stone
how r u hack me and you haven;'t spoken properly in a while! ?

***Lorian*** · 06-07-2004, 11:20 PM

Maltodextrin + protein powder - yes good choices

Oil blend - yes good choice

glutamine, to be honest unless your feeling flush with the cash I wouldn't bother

As for liquid creatine ... mate just stay clear. I wouldnt even take that if it was being given away free - save your money.

I'd put the money you save on the glutamine and liquid creatine toward buying even more maltodextrin and protein

Maybe some regular creatine as well.

L

robin_3_16 · 06-07-2004, 11:25 PM

thanks lorian
i think i will try creatine been off it for a while what creatine would you recommend if i was mate?

***Lorian*** · 06-07-2004, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robin_3_16

thanks lorian
i think i will try creatine been off it for a while what creatine would you recommend if i was mate?

Whilst I don't doubt the effectiveness of the next generation creatine products - things like V12 etc - they are pricey and personally I'd just stick with whichever major brand gives you the most for your cash, the Dymatize Creatine is my favourite.

Think of it this way - yes, over a 1 month period you may get slightly better results with something like V12 as opposed regular Creatine .. BUT .. for the cost of 1 months supply of V12 you could buy a 1KG tub of regular Creatine which is enough to last you 5-6 MONTHS .. given the choice of 1 months V12 or 6 months regular Creatine I'd go with the 6 months regular because at the end of it you will have gained a lot more.

L

**hackskii** · 07-07-2004, 02:23 AM

Good choice and advice Lorian.
The V12 is not that pricey in the states tho, plus I have the cash to spend.

I miss you too Robin, Where have you been?
You know you are one of my favorites on the board and anytime you want to talk, shout, communicate with the old man just haller.
I have alot of advice and mostly do as I say and not do as I do

HaHaha, just chuckled myself.
Keep in touch seriously bro.
PM me!!!!!

Panthro · 07-07-2004, 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorian

Maltodextrin + protein powder - yes good choices

Oil blend - yes good choice

glutamine, to be honest unless your feeling flush with the cash I wouldn't bother

As for liquid creatine ... mate just stay clear. I wouldnt even take that if it was being given away free - save your money.

I'd put the money you save on the glutamine and liquid creatine toward buying even more maltodextrin and protein

Maybe some regular creatine as well.

L

agree with all of that, liquid creatine is the biggest load odf ****, and as far as im aware, the makers got into trouble with trading strandards. Tests have proven it is TOTALLY useless!

Glutamine is very good stuff, but it isnt cheap, so might in your case robin mate, id leave it as the last thing to buy. Email whey consortium though as they do it for cheap cheap and it is very affordable off them...

hope this helps, and you are well!

**robdog** · 07-07-2004, 09:59 AM

tmof are doing 2kg of glutamine now for £40 so it works out not that expensive realy.

BSF James · 07-07-2004, 12:20 PM

Liquid creatine - read this: http://www.supplemen****chdog.com/creatine-serum.shtml - it doesnt actually contain any creatine. Creatine is not stable in liquid for long enough to be sold as a liquid.

Glutamine - only if you can afford it.

Protein - always important

Oil blend - again, only if you can afford it. Personally I didnt gain anything from taking an oil blend, in fact I rate glutamine more highly. If you really have a deficiency in healthy fats, that is when it is of most benefit, but for most people getting enough fat in their diet is not a problem! Even steak etc.. has healthy fats in it.

BSF James · 07-07-2004, 12:21 PM

what the bloody hell did it edit that for. its:

supplement.w.a.t.c.hdog

oh, now i see.

Langers · 07-07-2004, 12:45 PM

ONE SMART COOKIE · 07-07-2004, 01:42 PM

If your going to use creatine go for a good make and go to your local racing bike shop and get hold of a product called powerbar(carbs,bcaa`s,vits.mins ect) and mix your dose of creatine in with one heaped scoop of that stuff and take 10-20mg vanadyl sulphate before your workout,finish workout and get the creatine mix down asap,a hell of a lot cheaper than these new muscle volumizers and does the same job.

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BSF James · 07-07-2004, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ONE SMART COOKI

If your going to use creatine go for a good make

Most good brands all use the same creatine anyway - creapure from the degussa labs in Germany. Reflex, Prolab, etc.. The more well known brands charge more though. USN are pretty cheap for creapure. I read a breakdown of creatine analyses from all the major creatine manufacturers the other day and the degussa labs was by far the top. Their creatine is 99.9% pure - quite a bit higher even than the American manufactured creatines.

leanman · 07-07-2004, 09:18 PM

Just to be the one togo against the grain here.....

I would suggest getting whey and micellar casein.....the pennies that you save spend on good old food

Saying this as you say you are getting back into things...maybe use creatine at a later date(perhaps when stuck on a plateau)
When i get my head outta my bumb i will put an article together regarding supplement use......to give you a preview i kinda think its all to easy to grab a tub of this or that etc.
Dont get me wrong im not anti-supps

Sorry for hi-jacking this robin

06-07-2004, 10:39 PM	#1 (permalink)
robin_3_16 Getting HUGE! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: england Posts: 1,461	changing to more supplements i am changing to more supplements now things have slipepd abit and when work comes back into a nice regular routine i am going to be buying some supplements want advice on what though i was thinking optimum oil blend creatine glutamine maltodextrine and wheywhat do u guys think? also have anmy of you tried liquid creatine heard it is great expensive but worth it! thanks guys! __________________ Robin

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hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 23,185	I heard the liquid creatine was all hype. V12 Fish oils (cheaper) Glutamine but v12 has that in it. __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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*Lorian* Administrator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cheltenham Posts: 2,535 Blog Entries: 1	Maltodextrin + protein powder - yes good choices Oil blend - yes good choice glutamine, to be honest unless your feeling flush with the cash I wouldn't bother As for liquid creatine ... mate just stay clear. I wouldnt even take that if it was being given away free - save your money. I'd put the money you save on the glutamine and liquid creatine toward buying even more maltodextrin and protein Maybe some regular creatine as well. L __________________ Now wearing the Captain's Hat.

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robin_3_16 Getting HUGE! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: england Posts: 1,461	thanks lorian i think i will try creatine been off it for a while what creatine would you recommend if i was mate? __________________ Robin

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hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 23,185	Good choice and advice Lorian. The V12 is not that pricey in the states tho, plus I have the cash to spend. I miss you too Robin, Where have you been? You know you are one of my favorites on the board and anytime you want to talk, shout, communicate with the old man just haller. I have alot of advice and mostly do as I say and not do as I do HaHaha, just chuckled myself. Keep in touch seriously bro. PM me!!!!! __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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ONE SMART COOKIE Decided to leave due to idiots & and their over inflated egos Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 2,015	If your going to use creatine go for a good make and go to your local racing bike shop and get hold of a product called powerbar(carbs,bcaa`s,vits.mins ect) and mix your dose of creatine in with one heaped scoop of that stuff and take 10-20mg vanadyl sulphate before your workout,finish workout and get the creatine mix down asap,a hell of a lot cheaper than these new muscle volumizers and does the same job. The above information is copyrighted by the one smart cookie foundation and any attempt to copy this info will result in serious muscle growth

07-07-2004, 09:18 PM	#15 (permalink)
leanman Gym Addict Join Date: May 2003 Location: south-east Posts: 421	Just to be the one togo against the grain here..... I would suggest getting whey and micellar casein.....the pennies that you save spend on good old food Saying this as you say you are getting back into things...maybe use creatine at a later date(perhaps when stuck on a plateau) When i get my head outta my bumb i will put an article together regarding supplement use......to give you a preview i kinda think its all to easy to grab a tub of this or that etc. Dont get me wrong im not anti-supps Sorry for hi-jacking this robin

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