Creatine with pineapple juice... - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

Sam_UK · 11-06-2004, 05:17 PM

Hello, just started to load creatine, it's 'HPLC Pure Creatine, Micronised' from TMOF - I have read on a couple of other threads that taking creatine with water is no good, and that it should be taken with fruit juice as that contains dextrose which stops the creatine going to waste..

However i've seen some conflicting stuff, people I've asked have said that creatine with orange juice is what you want to do... and others say that orange juice actually doesn't work well with creatine due to the acid..

So, what about pineapple juice - is this good for taking creatine? :confused:

I'd like to just clear this up, I know people recomend taking it with dextrose - but is dextrose found in pineapple and other fruit juices?

Thanks,

Sam

**hackskii** · 11-06-2004, 05:46 PM

Dectrose is found in grape juice.
Dextrose is a carb.
Fructose is found in most fruit juices, and is a carb too.
Citris juices are not preferred with creatine. I have always read that.
try some sort of dextrose/maltodextrin concoction.

winger · 11-06-2004, 05:56 PM

The key is to spike insulin when taking creatine. Dextrose spikes more than any other sugar. Just mix the creatine in with some grape juice.

Greyphantom · 11-06-2004, 06:28 PM

Pineapple juice is good too... used to use that or grape juice... changed them about to give some variety...

**hackskii** · 11-06-2004, 08:02 PM

For all its worth, I have read citris juices are not good to use. Might be because of the acid.
The best way for creatine to get into the stomach is with a PH of 4
I copied a good read from a good book in the supplement section on making your own creatine that will make it the most effective and cheap too.

http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/supplementation/2500-making-your-own-creatine-formula.html

Sam_UK · 11-06-2004, 08:57 PM

Thanks for the info guys,

hackskii - that link for effervescent creatine seems excellent

I tested the creatine I have last night in water, and it wouldn't dissolve at all!

HPLC Pure micronised Creatine.... am I missing something, like am I supposed to heat it up with a lighter and a spoon before I can take it? lol

seemed very hard to dissolve/mix to me :(

effervescent creatine, would that be the same as 'explosive creatine' that someone was telling me about? He was raving about it saying how good it was...

Cheers

Sam

**hackskii** · 11-06-2004, 10:20 PM

Well if the book was half right then that might be the way to go. Dialing in the PH and the dextrose with everything might be a really good mix.
I bought a good book which was expensive and typed it up from there. I probably could get into some trouble as there was some copyright infringements there;)OOPS!!
Like the book said the undesolved stuff does nothing for you.
Now on the other hand the V12 desolves nicely and although it is expensive, I have the money to not waiste my time on finding all the ingredients. But it would be fun to make.
I also like the fact the guy talks about not being cold or even warm was better.

winger · 12-06-2004, 12:57 AM

So drink warm, fizzy (dextrose) sugar water with a 4.0 ph and creatine. Got it.

Hey Sam_UK mine disolves very well. It's also micronised.

Sam_UK · 12-06-2004, 01:21 AM

what are you disolving yours in winger? mine just doesn't want to know in water/juice! just sinks to the bottom even after vigorous stirring... perhaps it's time to get some new creatine!

winger · 12-06-2004, 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam_UK

what are you disolving yours in winger? mine just doesn't want to know in water/juice! just sinks to the bottom even after vigorous stirring... perhaps it's time to get some new creatine!

Yea that is the old stuff. The new stuff disolves much better.

**hackskii** · 12-06-2004, 03:38 AM

I use V12 and it desolves awesome.
I was reading that Silentbob was having problems in the morning with V12.
I dont have problems in the morning or otherwise.
I think It would be a good idea to cycle it though.
Might be old school and outdated to some but during cycle I stop taking it and post cycle I take it.

jambo · 05-07-2004, 12:48 PM

Its best to go for grape juice if you are wanting to use juice, as grape juice as a higher GI. But ideally you should use pure dextrose, about 50g worth per 5g creatine serving, immediately post workout.

Killerkeane · 05-07-2004, 05:10 PM

yeah, i use grape juice too, orange juice makes me rumble for some reason.

**hackskii** · 05-07-2004, 10:46 PM

I have read that you dont mix the creatine with citrus juices, like orange and grapefruit.

11-06-2004, 05:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
Sam_UK Gym Addict Join Date: May 2004 Location: UK Posts: 100	Creatine with pineapple juice... Hello, just started to load creatine, it's 'HPLC Pure Creatine, Micronised' from TMOF - I have read on a couple of other threads that taking creatine with water is no good, and that it should be taken with fruit juice as that contains dextrose which stops the creatine going to waste.. However i've seen some conflicting stuff, people I've asked have said that creatine with orange juice is what you want to do... and others say that orange juice actually doesn't work well with creatine due to the acid.. So, what about pineapple juice - is this good for taking creatine? :confused: I'd like to just clear this up, I know people recomend taking it with dextrose - but is dextrose found in pineapple and other fruit juices? Thanks, Sam __________________ *Currently:* Height: 6'0, Weight: 200lbs, BF: 15% Arms: 16", Chest: 44", Thighs: 26"

11-06-2004, 05:46 PM	#2 (permalink)
hackskii Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 22,649	Dectrose is found in grape juice. Dextrose is a carb. Fructose is found in most fruit juices, and is a carb too. Citris juices are not preferred with creatine. I have always read that. try some sort of dextrose/maltodextrin concoction. __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

11-06-2004, 05:56 PM	#3 (permalink)
winger UK-Muscle Male Animal Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern California, USA Posts: 10,215 Blog Entries: 1	The key is to spike insulin when taking creatine. Dextrose spikes more than any other sugar. Just mix the creatine in with some grape juice. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

11-06-2004, 06:28 PM	#4 (permalink)
Greyphantom Getting HUGE! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: London Posts: 1,587	Pineapple juice is good too... used to use that or grape juice... changed them about to give some variety... __________________ Greyphantom The Ghost who Grows!!!

11-06-2004, 08:02 PM	#5 (permalink)
hackskii Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 22,649	For all its worth, I have read citris juices are not good to use. Might be because of the acid. The best way for creatine to get into the stomach is with a PH of 4 I copied a good read from a good book in the supplement section on making your own creatine that will make it the most effective and cheap too. http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/supplementation/2500-making-your-own-creatine-formula.html __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

11-06-2004, 08:57 PM	#6 (permalink)
Sam_UK Gym Addict Join Date: May 2004 Location: UK Posts: 100	Thanks for the info guys, hackskii - that link for effervescent creatine seems excellent I tested the creatine I have last night in water, and it wouldn't dissolve at all! HPLC Pure micronised Creatine.... am I missing something, like am I supposed to heat it up with a lighter and a spoon before I can take it? lol seemed very hard to dissolve/mix to me :( effervescent creatine, would that be the same as 'explosive creatine' that someone was telling me about? He was raving about it saying how good it was... Cheers Sam __________________ *Currently:* Height: 6'0, Weight: 200lbs, BF: 15% Arms: 16", Chest: 44", Thighs: 26"

11-06-2004, 10:20 PM	#7 (permalink)
hackskii Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 22,649	Well if the book was half right then that might be the way to go. Dialing in the PH and the dextrose with everything might be a really good mix. I bought a good book which was expensive and typed it up from there. I probably could get into some trouble as there was some copyright infringements there;)OOPS!! Like the book said the undesolved stuff does nothing for you. Now on the other hand the V12 desolves nicely and although it is expensive, I have the money to not waiste my time on finding all the ingredients. But it would be fun to make. I also like the fact the guy talks about not being cold or even warm was better. __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

12-06-2004, 12:57 AM	#8 (permalink)
winger UK-Muscle Male Animal Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern California, USA Posts: 10,215 Blog Entries: 1	So drink warm, fizzy (dextrose) sugar water with a 4.0 ph and creatine. Got it. Hey Sam_UK mine disolves very well. It's also micronised. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

12-06-2004, 01:21 AM	#9 (permalink)
Sam_UK Gym Addict Join Date: May 2004 Location: UK Posts: 100	what are you disolving yours in winger? mine just doesn't want to know in water/juice! just sinks to the bottom even after vigorous stirring... perhaps it's time to get some new creatine! __________________ *Currently:* Height: 6'0, Weight: 200lbs, BF: 15% Arms: 16", Chest: 44", Thighs: 26"

12-06-2004, 03:38 AM	#11 (permalink)
hackskii Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 22,649	I use V12 and it desolves awesome. I was reading that Silentbob was having problems in the morning with V12. I dont have problems in the morning or otherwise. I think It would be a good idea to cycle it though. Might be old school and outdated to some but during cycle I stop taking it and post cycle I take it. __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

05-07-2004, 12:48 PM	#12 (permalink)
jambo Newbie Trainer Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5	Its best to go for grape juice if you are wanting to use juice, as grape juice as a higher GI. But ideally you should use pure dextrose, about 50g worth per 5g creatine serving, immediately post workout. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. - the place for UK supplements! Qualified Fitness Professional and Sports Nutritionist

05-07-2004, 05:10 PM	#13 (permalink)
Killerkeane The Geezer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Somerset although im not proud lol. Posts: 2,978	yeah, i use grape juice too, orange juice makes me rumble for some reason. __________________ Fortes Fortuna Paratus Mens-Fortune favours the prepared mind.:amen:

05-07-2004, 10:46 PM	#14 (permalink)
hackskii Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 22,649	I have read that you dont mix the creatine with citrus juices, like orange and grapefruit. __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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